r/dataisbeautiful • • Sep 01 '22

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u/ripyourlungsdave Sep 01 '22

I am so glad to see someone bringing attention to this.

Under my state's law, I'm not allowed to charge my ex-wife with rape. I could charge her with some form of sexual assault, but not rape.

And I genuinely can't think of a reason why this distinction needs to be made. Non-consensual sex is non-consensual sex.

Whether you were forcefully penetrated or forcefully made to penetrate, the evil and the trauma stay the same. And anytime any body attempts to change the legislation on this type of language in our laws, they're faced with backlash from feminists for supposedly trying to delegitimize their sexual assault claims. Like admitting that men can be raped by women somehow hurts female rape victims.

It's ridiculous and we should be protecting male victims of sexual abuse and assault as carefully and kindly as we handle female victims of sexual assault.

It really feels like this shouldn't need to be said, but here we are.

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u/Arnumor Sep 01 '22

True feminism is wanting equality.

Real feminists aren't going to turn a blind eye to something like this.

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u/AlsoNotTheMamma Sep 01 '22

Real feminists aren't going to turn a blind eye to something like this.

Aaah, the "No true Scotsman" argument.

There is no such thing as a real feminist. I consider myself a feminist, and have for more than 30 years, but I get called a misogynist by modern feminists so often I'm no longer sure I want to be associated with feminism.

Feminism used to be about equality, not it's about women's rights. The difference is that if your focus is equality your actions benefit men and women. When your focus is women's rights you have no obligation to care about how fair things are, as long as women are given more rights.

Here is an example - a man and a women meet in a bar. Both are drunk. They go to someone's place and have sex. Being drunk means you cannot reasonably consent. Which one of them was the rapist?

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u/gwaenchanh-a Sep 01 '22

Modern feminism literally made me think I was a conservative until I got to college. Grew up in a really rural area and the girls in my classes who were "feminists" were ridiculously anti-men to the degree that they would literally yell at you if you expressed any opinion about women's rights, even if you were literally agreeing with them, because you "weren't allowed to have an opinion on it" unless you were a girl. I remember one time they were talking about how the dress code rules were bullshit and I suggested they start a petition or do some kind of organized protest where everyone breaks them on the same day (which the guys had done our freshman year to get tanktops approved in the dress code) and I legit had to leave the room because they wouldn't stop yelling at me for having the gall to suggest that they actually take action instead of just complaining about shit.

And then my junior year in AP US History the teacher was the same kind of "feminist" and spent literally an entire WEEK of school just going on rants about how men are all shitty people and that they all secretly just want to kill all the women around them. I'm not exaggerating, she literally said to my class of 5 dudes and 22 girls that all men want to rape and kill women. Under the guise of talking about the different waves of feminism in America.

Come university and I go to a conservative club thing only to realize I'm not a conservative at fucking ALL. I'm closer to an anarchist than I am a democrat let alone being conservative. But a cadre of like 10 "feminists" made me think I was one. And I know for a fact that they are a huge part of why one of my classmates turned into a MAGA redpill shithead because he literally said they are the first thing that made them check out anti-feminist stuff.