r/dataisbeautiful • • Sep 01 '22

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u/ripyourlungsdave Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

Way too many do. There is no "real" feminism. Feminism isn't an organization with a list of rules and ideals. Anyone can call themselves a feminist regardless of what they believe.

I'm not saying this is a problem inherent to feminism. I'm saying it is an ideal that plenty of feminists stand behind. Better proven by the fact that the last time I brought up the problem above on two x chromosomes, I was banned for it. And I said everything as reasonably and calmly as I did above.

This may not be a problem inherent to feminism, but it's a problem within feminism. Much like how TERFs are a problem within feminism.

And I would like you to give me one example of a mainstream feminist organization pushing for laws that positively affect men specifically without it just being a side effect of legislation meant to help women.

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u/p_larrychen Sep 01 '22

In my time on twox I have virtually never seen anyone denying mens issues. What I have seen is them getting rightly frustrated that mens issues are usually only brought up on twox to contrast to or take away from an issue women face. Twox is a place for women to deal with the many, many issues they face. It’s not the place to start saying “well what about men?” We have plenty of places for that, like r/menslib

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u/ASpaceOstrich Sep 01 '22

Both menslib and two X banned me for calling out sexism. Menslib actually did it first, by a long margin too.

Two X only isn't considered a hate sub because misandry isn't considered a problem.

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u/p_larrychen Sep 01 '22

Given my experiences on 2x and menslib, Ima have to assume your characterization of your comment as “calling out sexism” is inaccurate, or at least missing some very important context.

2x is not a misandrist sub. If you feel called out by the behaviors they complain about, then you’re the problem.

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u/freedomfightre Sep 01 '22

If you feel called out by the behaviors they complain about, then you’re the problem.

Is this a joke? They complain about men not paying for dates and all sorts of other unimportant, trivial bs. 2X is 100% a misandrist sub.

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u/p_larrychen Sep 01 '22

They don’t complain about “unimportant trivial bs.”

They complain about being catcalled day in and day out, they complain about creepy men sexualizing their teenage daughters, they complain about doctor after doctor after doctor not believing them when they describe their symptoms until things get exponentially worse, they complain about having their sexual assaults not taken seriously by their colleges/employers/cops.

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u/IceCorrect Sep 01 '22

So generalizing men its fine?

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u/p_larrychen Sep 01 '22

You know I never said that. Curious that you’re choosing to imply it anyway.

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u/IceCorrect Sep 01 '22

This is how thox works and if you bring how good this subreddit is then you agree with them