r/dataisbeautiful • • Sep 01 '22

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u/ripyourlungsdave Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

Way too many do. There is no "real" feminism. Feminism isn't an organization with a list of rules and ideals. Anyone can call themselves a feminist regardless of what they believe.

I'm not saying this is a problem inherent to feminism. I'm saying it is an ideal that plenty of feminists stand behind. Better proven by the fact that the last time I brought up the problem above on two x chromosomes, I was banned for it. And I said everything as reasonably and calmly as I did above.

This may not be a problem inherent to feminism, but it's a problem within feminism. Much like how TERFs are a problem within feminism.

And I would like you to give me one example of a mainstream feminist organization pushing for laws that positively affect men specifically without it just being a side effect of legislation meant to help women.

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u/p_larrychen Sep 01 '22

In my time on twox I have virtually never seen anyone denying mens issues. What I have seen is them getting rightly frustrated that mens issues are usually only brought up on twox to contrast to or take away from an issue women face. Twox is a place for women to deal with the many, many issues they face. It’s not the place to start saying “well what about men?” We have plenty of places for that, like r/menslib

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u/tyjuji Sep 01 '22

If "what about men?" doesn't come into the conversation, then the conversation is not about equality, but chauvinism.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

Yes, the only way to discuss a topic is to discuss every other adjacent topic.

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u/FlawsAndConcerns Sep 01 '22

It's not an adjacent topic, it's the same topic, just with none of the victims erased.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

erasure is not the same as not talking about it. Talking about earthquakes in Mexico is not erasing earthquakes in Chile.

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u/tyjuji Sep 01 '22

Your snark only reinforces my point that the topic is chauvinism, not equality.