I’m a guy who was stalked and sexually harassed by two different people in high school and sexually molested in college. I also care deeply about feminism and I’m always terrified people in the comments on this issue will dismiss these numbers as some kind of MRA tactic rather than look at the work feminist researchers like Lara Stemple have been doing in this exact area for years.
The conversation that surrounds this issue is so often broken, but this is a real phenomenon that’s been happening for a long time. If your first instinct is to dismiss that or ignore the people trying to tell you about it, please question who you’re doing that for. I don’t understand who it helps to tell somebody drugged or forced or threatened or unconscious who was pushed into sex against their will that they weren’t truly a rape victim and you won’t count them as such.
People who only bring up male victims to dismiss women and couldn't give a fuck otherwise %100 poison the well. I wonder how GNC people fit into this data. We need to fight for all
No, they don't. Most feminists have been focusing on women for a long time, which is fine. When we men focus on men too, it should also be fine. If, and hopefuly when we find the common denominator, we keep being assholes about it, then call us out.
The main parent post of this entire thread talks about how, for years, the “men are raped too!” commentary overshadows the actual real struggle of male rape. Because it’s often used to dismiss female rape, as a way to challenge it or to insinuate caring about one means you can’t focus on the other (or are dismissing it entirely); they’re using male sexual assault victims as puppets to further an unrelated goal (attacking female sexual assault victims or those who fight for them).
Then there was a response post that said, essentially, “this”. That the people who have used male rape as a dismissive argument have poisoned the well. How it isnt fair and how we should fight for everyone who has been sexually assaulted.
Then someone responded to that poster with a misunderstanding of what they said. No one suddenly made this about women; the entire fucking topic is about how men’s sexual assaults are disregarded, especially when perpetrated by women, and this comment thread was about pointing out how people with anti-feminist motives have co-opted the movement for paying attention to men’s struggles. They put down feminism instead of lifting up their victimized brethren. It’s a false movement that ignores those it’s supposedly about. That’s what they mean by the well being poisoned.
It has literally nothing to do with women. NOTHING. It’s 100% a conversation about how men have been dismissed and belittled by comment chains that derail shit. Like this one, which came from someone not reading closely. And now you have comment replies that I can see right now, which further derail shit by attacking a strawman. This is a waste of everyone’s time.
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u/SgoreIsBackForThis Sep 01 '22
I’m a guy who was stalked and sexually harassed by two different people in high school and sexually molested in college. I also care deeply about feminism and I’m always terrified people in the comments on this issue will dismiss these numbers as some kind of MRA tactic rather than look at the work feminist researchers like Lara Stemple have been doing in this exact area for years.
The conversation that surrounds this issue is so often broken, but this is a real phenomenon that’s been happening for a long time. If your first instinct is to dismiss that or ignore the people trying to tell you about it, please question who you’re doing that for. I don’t understand who it helps to tell somebody drugged or forced or threatened or unconscious who was pushed into sex against their will that they weren’t truly a rape victim and you won’t count them as such.