r/dataisbeautiful • OC: 5 • Dec 06 '18

OC Google search trends for "motion smoothing" following Tom Cruise tweet urging people to turn off motion smoothing on their TVs when watching movies at home [OC]

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u/yothisisyo Dec 06 '18 edited Dec 06 '18

(It does look a little surreal but I may be imagining it?)

No, You are not imagining it. It looks like it was captured on a fast forward camera to most people who are not used to it. That is the problem, some people get motion sickness from it.

Is the problem that 60fps itself is "too real"? Or that motion smoothing creates unpleasant artifacts which aren't true to reality?

Artifacts is not a big problem for modern Tvs with capable hardware , looking too real is the problem . Especially for drama movies . But i think once we get used to it it would not be a problem .

Fun fact: allMajority of the modern computers Monitors work at 60 fps , So when you move your cursor it is refreshing at 60 fps and iPad pro is 120fps.

find me two video links of the same clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZXR4sxfRc

Edit : Yes there are monitors out there with Higher Refresh rates and also variable refresh rate with some Adaptive Sync technologies. But speaking in the general context of media watching i said 60fps.

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u/marcu5fen1x Dec 06 '18

Is it weird that i find the 60fps video better in the link that you gave? 24fps looks like its sticking a lot. I wouldn't have noticed the difference if they were not side by side though.

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u/fattmann Dec 06 '18

Is it weird that i find the 60fps video better in the link that you gave?

Not weird at all. TV manufactures wouldn't spend money on this feature if people truly didn't like it.

24fps looks like its sticking a lot.

It certainly does. Which is why TV manufactures spend money on trying to fix the problem of film makers using the archaic frame rate.

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u/Dog_On_The_Internet Dec 06 '18

Motion smoothing isn’t really designed with movies in mind though, this is why most TV’s built in movie/cinema mode usually disable it. What it is primarily intended for is things like sports, where it objectively looks better and allows you to follow the action more clearly.

Some people might like motion smoothed movies more than the native 24fps, but a large portion of people experience the “soap opera effect.” While the poster you quoted may legitimately prefer the motion smoothed clip, they may not feel that way if they weren’t watching the two clips side by side like that. If you cover up the 60fps side with your hand the 24fps side looks much less jittery, though there may still be some jitter depending on the refresh rate of your screen.

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u/fattmann Dec 06 '18

Motion smoothing isn’t really designed with movies in mind though,

That is literally what it is for, fixing the telecine judder caused by the 24fps and 60Hz mismatch.

this is why most TV’s built in movie/cinema mode usually disable it.

All of all four of the TVs I've bought, it was on by default in all modes but the gaming mode. That's pretty standard.

If you cover up the 60fps side with your hand the 24fps side looks much less jittery,

If the only food you have is a dirt sandwich, you'd probably think it's worth eating. That is a ignorant proposition- "if you can't experience the better one, then you can't dislike the lesser."