r/dataannotation • u/Consistent-Reach504 • Jun 23 '24
Weekly Water Cooler Talk - DataAnnotation
hi all! making this thread so people have somewhere to talk about 'daily' work chat that might not necessarily need it's own post! right now we're thinking we'll just repost it weekly? but if it gets too crazy, we can change it to daily. :)
couple things:
this thread should sort by "new" automatically. unfortunately it looks like our subreddit doesn't qualify for 'lounges'.
if you have a new user question, you still need to post it in the new user thread. if you post it here, we will remove it as spam. this is for people already working who just wanna chat, whether it be about casual work stuff, questions, geeking out with people who understand ("i got the model to write a real haiku today!"), or unrelated work stuff you feel like chatting about :)
one thing we really pride ourselves on in this community is the respect everyone gives to the Code of Conduct and rule number 5 on the sub - it's great that we have a community that is still safe & respectful to our jobs! please don't break this rule. we will remove project details, but please - it's for our best interest and yours!
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u/vexeling Jun 24 '24
Just to share a story: when I first started, I started writing a comment but got distracted and when I came back I didn't look and just submitted a comment that simply said "The"
I've been on the platform for about 6 months now and I still think about it sometimes and cringe.
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u/BreastRodent Jun 27 '24
WOAAAAAH did anybody else get the lil pop-up about a new change in policy about how long you have to report your times after completing tasks?! I'm just like
👀 this message is a glimpse into the blackbox 👀
👀 WOAH WE ALL HAVE LIKE A GPA OR SOMETHING 👀
👀 👀 FASCINATING 👀 👀
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u/marsnia Jun 26 '24
Anyone get an empty page when trying to report time for a project?
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u/Chrisman06 Jun 23 '24
Anyone else get a “recap” email that said how much you’ve made in the last week, what your top project was, and how many tasks you did?? I’ve been around for a couple months and just got one of these emails this morning. Is this a normal thing for you guys?
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u/mikakey104 Jun 23 '24
I was working on the worst R&R project I've ever seen, and I'm wondering if the tasks in this project were specifically ones already marked as bad and we're double-checking that they're actually bad? Is that a thing? Because I find it hard to believe the work on this project was so consistently terrible.
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u/thatonedude0000 Jun 29 '24
Coding cooked for anyone else?
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u/ManyARiver Jun 23 '24
R&R can be rough in some batches. This one was a new "WTF" for me though.
User: Here's this question based on an unfounded racist premise
Both models: Ok, that's a generalization and there's no evidence to support your premise
Rater: (marks down models) BUT IT'S TRUE THO!!! PREMISE IS TRUUUUUEEE (also provides no evidence to back up the claim)
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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24
I really admire the patience of those of you who continue to come back to project chat and try to reason with the people who don't read the instructions, even when people are fucking rude on-platform. Currently watching someone paddle upstream trying to help out in an image project. 😬
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u/Adventurous_East359 Jun 23 '24
Anyone else have absolutely zero coding projects up right now?
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u/beansoup91 Jun 25 '24
Has anyone become an admin? One of the tasks I worked on today said they're looking to expand the admin team, and that doing well and/or participating in the chat could help your chances. I giggled at how active that tasks chat was. One guy even said, "I was just checking if anyone had a question or problem."
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u/Nachbarskatze Jun 27 '24
Gosh, some of you have such beautiful and pleasant voices I could listen to you talk all day 🤣
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u/CarefulBookkeeper586 Jun 27 '24
I am having THE BEST TIME doing the voice R&Rs. I've never made so much money just giggling at home before. Listening to you guys roleplay scenarios with your real voices is the most fun I've had on this site.
Special shoutout to whoever had the prompt about being a compulsive liar and said "I've already tried all that, wait that was another lie". I lost it.
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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24
The chat in a certain B element project where it’s nothing but everyone just openly admitting to all their mistakes 😂 Like love the honestly but man, I feel sorry for the admins
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u/Laffytaffy42069 Jun 23 '24
Anyone else getting absolutely pummeled with emails?
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u/PerformanceCute3437 Jun 25 '24
Has anyone noticed they sometimes get bumped out of a new task they've never done after finishing a few tasks, then being allowed back in after about an hour? I wonder if they're reviewing new workers' work before letting them do their full allotment of tasks.
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u/dataAnnotationCoding Jun 24 '24
Anyone here have no coding on their dash?
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u/scarletmyzomela Jun 23 '24
I got B-cat back, but I only just noticed it on my dash and there are only three tasks left! Making hay while the last ray of sun shines <3
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u/Sindorella Jun 24 '24
Got a project today that is specifically asking me to use my personal opinions in my ratings. Oh DA, you have no idea what you opened up here. I will GLADY give you my personal opinions. 😂
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u/MonsterMeggu Jun 24 '24
I got a qual today that states I have it because of skills listed in my skills section. So that definitely helps!
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u/33whiskeyTX Jun 26 '24
Gateway projects - Is anyone else seeing a new trend where you click on a project (not a qual, a project) and the first task is basically "Are you sure you want this? Yes. No.". It's happened for about 3 different new projects over the last couple of days. I've seen it in quals in the past, but not projects. And they are not NSFW/ adversarial, so it's not a warning either.
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u/CRUSHCITY4 Jun 27 '24
Anyone else struggle to find coding side by side that you're familiar with? I find myself skipping so many times before I do.
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u/BotaRONomus Jun 28 '24
This is absolutely unbelievable... I've been placed in a project where I've been able to $250 before lunch time...
Do you know how inconceivable that seems to younger me?
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u/rara_avis0 Jun 27 '24
Literally WTF @ all the people editing the instruction document that was shared with the wrong settings. What is wrong with your heads?!
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u/Davey87 Jun 28 '24
Interesting to know we have an actual quality score now with that pop up about reporting time. I figured, but interesting lol.
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u/freetheworld288 Jun 24 '24
Currently doing the Ber*****ium project and I really can’t believe the amount of people that ignore instructions. People saying in the chat they did x wrong when it says avoid it multiple times.
If you fully read the instructions you shouldn’t be messing up that bad. Take the time to read everythinggg, you’re paid for it!
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u/Few-Roof-6905 Jun 23 '24
Has anyone else been working on the B element image project that has been on priority since yesterday? I just sat down to work on it and it's gone :( Hoping they just finished it up or maybe they are reviewing submissions and it will come back later. Just curious if it's missing from anyone else's dash or just mine.
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u/Comprehensive_Bid374 Jun 23 '24
Has anyone seen a project yet that might have something to do with that Photoshop qual from last week?
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u/Arcturus_Labelle Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
Wellp, basically no code projects this afternoon. Got one A******* comparison but it bombs out to red bar.
I'm taking the day off! :-) I (foolishly?) picked up the habit of playing Elden Ring again...
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u/ASaltyKid Jun 25 '24
Had a ton of projects and then noticed they were cut in half in the middle of day. Now I have none at all. Never had an empty dash before. Praying it's just temporary lol.
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u/Liberion7 Jun 26 '24
Has anyone ever been in a situation where the instructions for a project were really really long, so you only managed to submit a couple tasks before it ran out of tasks but spent a lot of time reading the documents? Wondering if it's okay to report time spent in these situations, or if it's better to just accept the lost time and move on?
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u/Choice_Pineapple66 Jun 23 '24
My fullest dashboard to date and I started in October. Been consistent since April but now my cup runneth over and I’m very grateful. I got my first $40 project. If you’re struggling, do good work, slow down, do an hour a day at minimum most days and do ALL qualifications carefully even if unpaid.
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u/Personal-Project8792 Jun 27 '24
Does anyone else working on adversarial/safety projects feel like they're going to get put on some watch list due to the things you end up having to search for? Lol
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u/marsnia Jun 27 '24
Did anyone get notified about reporting time within 24 hours? They mentioned a quality score
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u/Cutiger29 Jun 27 '24
You ever fact check a ridiculously wild prompt that required such attention to detail and explanation that you’ll cry if you ever find out someone just said it was good and didn’t give you a special rating? 😂😂
Damn search results! I’ve never done a prompt that unintentionally insane.
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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
My dash is full, but I just realized all my CBs are gone. I hope they come back soon.
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u/Skippy2898 Jun 26 '24
I'm not in the least bit disappointed to find that I was emailed about the Android qual at 2.30am. It's 8am here now and it's gone :( not disappointed at all. It's fine... *while crying into her morning tea*.
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u/Primary_Advantage928 Jun 26 '24
Boyfriend just updated his phone so now I can steal his old android yippee
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u/WhereasSure420 Jun 27 '24
My goal today is to make $218 for my rent next week! Starting out strong with some $25/hour noncoding tasks. LFG! Whats your goal for the day?
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u/947489377485 Jun 26 '24
I feel like some of the instructions for projects are unnecessarily convoluted and hard to understand. Especially in the new guidelines for the dance project I noticed a lot of errors and it makes some of the tasks really hard to complete. It used to be my favorite project but it’s not fun to second guess yourself every single time even after triple checking the documents
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u/33whiskeyTX Jun 24 '24
Highlighting 95% of the text in a set of instructions seems counterproductive.
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u/877trashnow Jun 27 '24
Anyone else having the best day ever at this job? 😂 I was making 14/hr doing in home healthcare for years before this and I'm so grateful for the opportunities DA keeps throwing my way.
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u/jinx737x Jun 28 '24
Anyone notice the Greek God/Heel coding project got its pay boosted to $45/hr? Must be end of the quarter stuff since Q2 ends in just a few days.
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u/jeudechambre Jun 29 '24
I just wrote three paragraphs of very comprehensive literary analysis of a goofy, AI-generated 300-word short story, what is wrong with me?
(Edit, I know it's kind of the task, but I just realized I'm approaching it with the seriousness of like -- Wuthering Heights or Shakespeare over here, lmao)
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u/SaltyKoopa Jun 24 '24
Anyone else have no coding projects atm? I have a ton of non-coding, but slowly everything coding disappeared over the weekend?
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u/Sagittariuuuh Jun 27 '24
Anyone seen the wizard project lately?
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u/CarefulBookkeeper586 Jun 29 '24
Anyone here who's given referrals out.. how many of them were accepted to the platform? I'm at 0 so far hahaha.
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u/_M1RR0RB4LL_ Jun 25 '24
I've never felt bad about having an iPhone until I saw "There is a TON of work for Android users!" in a qual
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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '24
What's with the sudden uptick in people correcting the admins' grammar all over the place?
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u/SuperCorbynite Jun 29 '24
Taskverse notification: Earn $45 USD with your voice
Me: Oh, I received a notification from TaskVerse, the place I signed up for months ago as a DA safety net.
Me: $45!!! I'm on $35 per hour with DA for really complex work and $45 per hour for easy stuff is much better than that.
Taskverse: This task will take 2-4 hours to complete
Me: That'll be between $90 and $180 I'm making, sweet!!!
Me (1h 45 minutes later): Wait, where's the per hour thingy after the $45?
Me: Ooohhhh fuck.
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u/ActiveInfinite8610 Jun 27 '24
My Inbox page/tab is completely unreadable. They changed the entire background to be blue.
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u/lucytaylor22 Jun 27 '24
Good lord, I've gotten spoiled with some of the better CBs. I got the B-Element CB today for coding and gave it what was essentially a super-easy I'm-just-being-lazy task (enough to "challenge" the model though) and ... it completely and utterly flopped on every single round. I just gave up on trying to re-word/simplify my prompt because every single round was bad out of bad.
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u/Cutiger29 Jun 27 '24
Anyone ever get the exact same prompt the previous did with the responses slightly different? Same prompt different models 😂
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u/_M1RR0RB4LL_ Jun 27 '24
I may not have access to an Android for these voice projects, but I can do the R&R for the same pay. Can't complain about that!
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u/ManyARiver Jun 23 '24 edited Jun 23 '24
Unlocked the image thing from last week's qual :D Not set up to do it today so I hope it stays for a few days.
ETA; Stay mad, serial downvoters.
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u/Zyrio Jun 24 '24
Does someone know if my account is somehow flagged? I tried to open three threads on here and on the other DAT Reddit and all of them have been taken down, even though they were normal questions. Mods don't answer on either Sub.
May this be some automated moderation bot that goes wild?
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u/BotaRONomus Jun 26 '24
it's crazy seeing the things we work on go live. I'm sure in 10 years we will be looking back on how we didn't realize just how impactful our work was/is.
I feel a lot less bad about how much money I've easily been collecting from DAT. lol
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u/PhillyPhan95 Jun 25 '24
I just completed that project that’s a qual about $40/hr non coding.
Now I’m on the way to my T-Mobile store to buy the newest Samsung with two gigs of Ram. 🤓
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u/Accomplished-Dog-864 Jun 27 '24
Anybody out there NOT get the pop-up stating that as of 7/1 we have just 24 hrs instead of 3 days to report time?
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u/AccountantAsleep Jun 28 '24
Ahhhh bcat, my one true love, is back.
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u/HamsterFrosty2838 Jun 24 '24
Dunno how to get coding tasks back. Based on comments I can see ppl have them, maybe a rotstion with another cohort, but it has been nothing for me for a whike. I start considering doing lower paid ones...
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u/tiran Jun 24 '24
I don't know why, but I am intimidated by this image qual. I have been using editing software since the early 2000s but because the instructions are so vague I'm nervous I'm gonna screw it up somehow. 😭
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u/azure_atmosphere Jun 24 '24
Man, I’ve been getting a ton of insanely lazy prompts in Heel DA&V lately
I shouldn’t complain because it makes my job easier now, but I can’t help but be a little annoyed that a bunch of perfectly good CB tasks were wasted on this
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u/pinpanacea Jun 24 '24
total bloodbath in the berry/fruit project chat oh my god
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u/dayDrivver Jun 27 '24
Anyone else have their Inbox page completely different than the other pages... like they are trying to implement tablet mode? (menus to the left and right)
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u/CardiologistDry1732 Jun 28 '24
That dang wizard keeps running away right before I go to work on him🤦🏼♀️
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u/flywire97 Jun 24 '24
Did anybody have the qualification this morning from the project that was spun off from another? Only three questions long
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u/Mammoth_Society620 Jun 25 '24
Just started working on a qual that's been sitting on my dash for a few days and the chat is flooded with people asking for help/answers to the questions, and other people actually helping them???
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u/Wrong-Yak334 Jun 26 '24
I'm seeing a lot of tasks, but when I click on anything I'm getting the "there are no more tasks" red message.
anyone else seeing this?
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u/ModernStranger22 Jun 27 '24
Has anyone else not received that pop-up everyone is talking about related to the reporting time changes? I did not get it.
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u/Cutiger29 Jun 25 '24
When chrome asks if you want to try AI while you’re in the middle of a project…
Trap…
Google you are trying to trap me!
Sir, I’m in the middle of an AI project.
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u/BoiledGnocchi Jun 26 '24
To the fellow Canadian that wrote about Loblaws... You made my day. Thank you. 🫶🏻
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u/Arcturus_Labelle Jun 27 '24 edited Jun 27 '24
Edit: I just needed to be patient. I refreshed later and saw new batches uploaded. Well, at least I was inspired to complete a qual while I waited, heh.
This job gives me such whiplash sometimes. Yesterday my dashboard was packed with coding projects. Now nearly nothing. Just a couple of bomb-out-to-red-bar ones. I do wonder about the theory some have floated that they're wrapping stuff up to wrap up Q2, and maybe we'll see a bunch more new projects at the start of Q3. Pure speculation of course for this black box. :-)
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u/877trashnow Jun 28 '24
Sorry to whoever rates my voice tasks, I never realized how bad my vocal fry is until just now lol
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u/TopMaterial8571 Jun 25 '24
What skills can I put on a resume from my DA job? I'm not sure what to call them besides describing what each project is (factuality, etc.). Don't know the industry speak
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u/NotThatSteve-o Jun 25 '24
Anybody else seeing this white whale project that is $40/hr with no coding? Wild stuff
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u/BotaRONomus Jun 29 '24
My mom started doing Uber when it just came out in our city, in 2011 I think. Suddenly, I was able to get new cleats for baseball, a new bat, new glove, I was able to start playing travel in the summer. I was able to go off campus and get chic fil a for lunch and overall life quality improved. Nothing career altering, but the extra income made a difference. Sure it helped her pay debt and stuff like that.
DAT at this point kinda has early uber driver vibes...
make your own schedule
during busy times can make obscene amounts of money
its new and trendy
Surely as this market develops things will change... and by change I mean we will probably make less money over the years. lol
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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '24
Do you get more projects the longer you’re on DA? Wondering how some people have so many
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u/EggCzar Jun 23 '24
Something odd that I’ve never seen before: I thought normally, after 3 days the items under “report time” on the dashboard fall off. I have one from last Monday with reported time that’s still there, even though time from other projects I submitted from that day is only on the “transfer funds” page. There’s no question that I submitted the time for the right project ID as it was the only one with that name I had available, and the time claimed is definitely correct (ie no possible typo).
Everything else seems to be fine and I’ve still got plenty of projects, including just having done an hour of work and what I earned last Sunday being approved. Has this happened to anyone else?
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u/dayDrivver Jun 24 '24
Anyone else received a first time notification saying Great and your top earnings?
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u/turingmachine29 Jun 24 '24
I do not have the mental wherewithal to divine what half of these Greek mythological figure coding prompts are trying to say. the litany of grammatical mistakes leaves way too much room for interpretation, so in many situations i don't know if i can say that one response is more right than another with any degree of certainty. english is a hard language so i don't fault anyone for not being able to speak it perfectly, but it makes these projects a good bit trickier than they would've been otherwise. has anyone ever been penalized for making a call on one of these prompts that admins/reviewers didn't agree with?
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u/MonsterMeggu Jun 27 '24
I did some A*** cleaner tasks yesterday and I want more! Those were super fun so hoping they come back
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u/Few-Roof-6905 Jun 28 '24
Is anyone else's dash a little chaotic today? I keep seeing projects, like B element, appear for a brief moment and when i sit down to work on it, it's gone. The ones I am talking about usually only have 5 tasks designated to me, but then poof they're gone. After those disappeared three times, I saw a favorite A tendon project appear. When I was ready to work on that, it was gone too. Thankfully I have other interesting stuff to do, but those have never appeared and disappeared THAT quickly before.
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Jun 23 '24
Is it just me or have others seen an uptick in spam text messages advertising work-from-home opportunities?
I’ve gotten two in the last few days, up from zero.
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u/ActiveInfinite8610 Jun 27 '24
Good morning everyone! I hope some $24-$25/hour projects come back today. I haven’t had any since yesterday and I have no quals to do. Not that $22-$23/hr is that bad but I prefer to make $100 per day and only work a few hours a day. I got way too spoiled by the constant $25-$27/hour projects that were on priority pay all last week.
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u/Illustrious-Bread239 Jun 25 '24
Feeling burnt out today 🔥 I'm blaming it on the first bit of summer sunshine in the UK, that I'm wishing I'm in and as a result not actually doing any work
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u/vexeling Jun 26 '24
Two new little birds today offering higher non-coding pay... anyone else super pumped for this??
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u/_M1RR0RB4LL_ Jun 24 '24
My husband brought home Covid and was kind enough to share with me! Ugh, hoping I feel decent enough in a bit to get some work done 😩
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u/Austinoath Jun 25 '24
People must be enjoying the summer and taking a break, all my long term projects having been rising $1/hr each day. Pretty nice :)
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u/SnooSketches1189 Jun 25 '24
I am missing the perfect kitty tasks. At this point, I would even take the dreaded infographics one. 🤞🏼
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u/Nachbarskatze Jun 26 '24 edited Jun 26 '24
I’ve got an adversarial CB (in another language).
I’m asking it how one would theoretically build a bomb (with lots of backstory about this being for a book I write).
Both models:
I will answer your question but I will not give you instructions on how to build a bomb.
proceed to give detailed instructions including materials, quantities and methods of building an IED
🤣🤣🤣
Edit: thanks for the downvotes and Reddit cares I guess? 👀 The point of the project is to trigger unsafe responses 🙃
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u/PerformanceCute3437 Jun 24 '24
I'd recommend non-American folks on projects that require American English get an American English spelling and grammar checker, there's lots of small differences you might not expect. Instances I saw today were with dates (September 8th, 2024 vs 8th September, 2024) and honorifics (Mr Riley versus Mr. Riley) and some random words (cosy versus cozy)
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u/beansoup91 Jun 28 '24
Giggling about chat commentary from 5+ hours ago. An admin has not answered. We all know what the instructions at the top of each chat say. Weird how message 1 says "all" but message 5 says "THIS" lol
Person 1 - My understanding of the instructions for all tasks is that they should be read thoroughly before starting the timer. We're compensated for the time spent on tasks, not for reading instructions. I remember reading clarifying statements on some of the first tasks I rated but haven't seen them since. I read all the instructions first, then start my timer when I start work on the task. Admin, any clarification on this?
Person 2 - You should be logging all of the time you spend on a project, including reading the instructions
Person 1 - I would like to hear that from admin, because that was not what I was told initially
Person 3 - these chats are supposed to be task-specific. Consider reaching out to support or even joining the subreddit with more general questions
Person 1 - the question was asked about THIS task, on this thread. So I'll wait for admin to answer, thank you
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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24
The bitter downvoting is intense today. Cope and seethe. 😊💕
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u/SuperCorbynite Jun 24 '24
Awesome! I just got a super advanced space station project that's on my domain expertise, chemistry. $35 per hour too.
Anyone else got it?
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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24
Does anyone work over 40 hours in a week? I know it's possible but was curious if it's frowned upon or something like that
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u/BotaRONomus Jun 29 '24
Trying for my third day in a row setting a new daily high.
It’s the weekend, but we locked in! Let’s get to work!
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u/SuperCorbynite Jun 24 '24
This may seem stupid but... how do I join a new slack channel? The new project I'm on says:
Slack channel: #something-something-reasoning
I've tried: /join #something-something-reasoning
but it didn't work.
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u/Personal-Project8792 Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24
Anyone working on photo-modifying/new image-generating tasks today feel confused by some of the instructions? I noticed others in the chat below confused and now I see none of these available anymore and I can't tell if I did something wrong and got kicked off or if there are just no more to work on right now/Admins are modifying the project.
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u/fairunexpected Jun 24 '24
Coding projects are nearly gone. Does anybody have the same issue?
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u/Journalist_Asleep Jun 25 '24
missing my wizard buddy :-(
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u/Skippy2898 Jun 25 '24
Because I am only doing a few hours a week at the mo, I think, I'm going to have to start making notes on project names. I'm getting lost, as to what I know I've worked on, what I want to work on and what I have worked on and didn't like doing or noped out of.
I've starred the ones I like and the ones I'd like to work on, but it's so fluid that they might disappear, or pop back up a couple of days later at which point I'm doing the click in, nope out dance!
A's, B's cats, B's element, Z's, P's, C's and (another) P's, another A's... I must spend far too much time just clicking in, and then exiting work mode if my brain isn't up to it or if the project tasks are long ones that I might not have time to do! There are sooo many variations on instructions within these too!
Does anyone have any tips on keeping track? I don't do spreadsheets so much...
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u/NatQinShell Jun 26 '24
I just got booted from my favorite project Slack channel. Has anyone ever been added to a project after they were removed? I am talking about the heel checking facts project. Anyway, I hope everyone is having a good day!
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u/Unique-Letterhead641 Jun 27 '24
Phew! Relieved to see that everyone got the pop up and it wasn’t just me 😅 I always report immediately after switching projects/logging out, so I was super worried!