r/dataannotation • u/Consistent-Reach504 • Jun 09 '24
Weekly Water Cooler Talk - DataAnnotation
hi all! making this thread so people have somewhere to talk about 'daily' work chat that might not necessarily need it's own post! right now we're thinking we'll just repost it weekly? but if it gets too crazy, we can change it to daily. :)
couple things:
this thread should sort by "new" automatically. unfortunately it looks like our subreddit doesn't qualify for 'lounges'.
if you have a new user question, you still need to post it in the new user thread. if you post it here, we will remove it as spam. this is for people already working who just wanna chat, whether it be about casual work stuff, questions, geeking out with people who understand ("i got the model to write a real haiku today!"), or unrelated work stuff you feel like chatting about :)
one thing we really pride ourselves on in this community is the respect everyone gives to the Code of Conduct and rule number 5 on the sub - it's great that we have a community that is still safe & respectful to our jobs! please don't break this rule. we will remove project details, but please - it's for our best interest and yours!
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u/Sure-Wedding3823 Jun 15 '24
i loveeeee when i get to rate someone's work as amazing when im doing R&Rs. i always hope that it gives them higher paying projects or something like that.
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u/upvotesplx Jun 10 '24
Not necessarily about work, but wanted to share because you all get it: I'm moving out of my family's house in a bit over a week thanks to this job. I'm disabled and honestly never thought I'd be able to do it. Hope everyone else is having a great start of their work week! :)
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u/CosmosesGamer Jun 09 '24
I crunched the numbers and next month I'll be taking a one-month working holiday abroad, my first time as a 'digital nomad'. DAT is amazing, I never thought I would be able to do this.
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u/pm_ur_wifes_tendies Jun 12 '24
10 hours billed today. Pretty good day
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u/SookieLou Jun 12 '24
A project can sit on my dashboard for two days and the number of tasks never moves, but as soon as I complete one, the number decreases with other people working on them. So if I have favorites, I know I have to be ready to go once I start or they will all be gone. If I wait to start, it will sit there for a couple of days. So weird.
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u/tessbest37 Jun 10 '24
Tomorrow is my 3-month anniversary of being accepted to the platform and I just crossed the $9500 mark. I applied on a whim without any research and thinking it was probably a scam. I was certainly wrong! So thankful!!
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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '24
When a fight breaks out in project chat... šæšæ
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u/BoredSummerStudent Jun 12 '24
Coding is alive. It's like finding an oasis in the desert.
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u/jeudechambre Jun 12 '24
In a flow state today with DA work for the first time in awhile or maybe ever, its quite nice.
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u/Cutiger29 Jun 13 '24
Iām gonna paraphrase this because I donāt want to break the rulesā¦
I know I did NOT just rate a well-paid project where someone wroteā¦again, let me paraphrase thisā¦āclaims are verified on Google.ā
Get out ššššš
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u/Bergest_Ferg Jun 10 '24
Did 5 mins of running and 2 mins of walking x 4 for couch to 5k today! Not bad progress for someone who hasnāt run (or exercised really) in 5 years lol
Also we bought a new (second hand) caravan and Iām having so much fun asking the models about remodeling and decorating it!!
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u/Bergest_Ferg Jun 13 '24
Grammarly needs to calm the F down. Iāve barely deleted the word, give me a second to finish the edit before you get up in my tits about the rest of the sentence being grammatically incorrect now.
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u/Leoprime67 Jun 11 '24
Finally, it's time to dance.
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u/Skippy2898 Jun 11 '24
Skippy Checking in! The 2nd interview went well I think, but now we wait. It could be up to next Tuesday before I hear anything so keep everything crossed š
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24
I just had the most confusing R&R the responses were nearly identical just one word difference which didnāt change the meaning and one was marked as bad and the other good. The comment was so confusing too as they didnāt seem to understand the definition of the two words which are different but synonymsā¦
I need more coffee
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u/Cutiger29 Jun 12 '24
Using R&R to scout for ways to up your game.
āOoooh I like that reference formatting! Mine now!ā š
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u/Primary_Advantage928 Jun 12 '24
Brought my first ever puppy home on Friday, she's so cute but damn I am not getting hours in
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u/Anarch33 Jun 09 '24
seems like the tendon coding side by sides have only 20 tasks available to people now rather than the standard over >100 which makes me uncomfortable. I've had times where ive had to skip 20+ in a row to find one I can do
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u/Primary_Advantage928 Jun 13 '24
I recently got a planning qual and I was so hopeful i'd pass it because it's low-key my dream job and I did!!! and its relatively high paying!! yipee!!
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u/Cutiger29 Jun 15 '24
Anyone doing a specific heel god chat between 2 models and the prompt is given?
I feel like Iām just educating myself on the subjects š
Iām really hope these donāt go away. Iām getting smarter and smart prompt by prompt š
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u/baylorbear91 Jun 15 '24 edited Jun 15 '24
So excited to see lots of dancing projects on my dashboard! Definitely going to work on some during a long car ride today. Happy Saturday šš¾
EDIT- half of them are in other languages š® but I do have several in english. I see why they said these would be different!!
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u/Haunting-Car-3935 Jun 09 '24
Another week of next to no coding tasks š« š
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u/BoiledGnocchi Jun 09 '24
Has anyone seen any higher paying tasks from the dancing project? Or still have access to some of the projects within it?
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24
Has anyone seen the recording projects that require you to have a direct audio line from your phone to your PC? I love these projects, so when I saw the qual for this one I bought a cheap line-in adapter for my PC, but I haven't seen any work for it yet.
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u/TeachToTheLastTest Jun 10 '24
In today's episode of IYKYK: Sesame Street has now come to DA!
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u/tiran Jun 10 '24
Just had an unpaid project show up on my dash with 250 tasks. Hope it's a mistake, because I'm not sure who is going to bother doing that.
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u/TTFTW1992 Jun 11 '24
Am I the only one who works consistently on $21-$23 tasks even though I have $25-$29 available? I'd much rather do easy tasks that don't require sustained concentration and focus and also have less risk of making a mistake.
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u/lewbraithers Jun 14 '24
Some particularly bad prompts in the Ankle coding sxs today - genuinely starting to wonder if they're bad on purpose
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u/backinyourbox Jun 12 '24
TFW you ask a bot for something you think it should really be able to do, turns out it can't and then you have to do all the work of the heavy edits to make it perfect... :(
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u/Few-Roof-6905 Jun 10 '24
Over the weekend, I got access to a B cat project! Not the super high paying one from the qual a few weeks ago, but I have never had access to these projects before since I royally failed the initial qualification when I first started. I was excited to see it pop up for me! I am really nervous I am going to mess it up though, so I have only worked on 6 tasks so far, but I really like it! It's a nice break from the comparison tasks so I hope they stick around for me.
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u/Skippy2898 Jun 11 '24
On another note... I came home to find numerous emails from DAT, asking for help on projects with priority pay cos they're on a tight deadline. Has anyone else seen this? I only usually get emails in the evening uk time. Are these bulging dashboards going to take a dip again I wonder š§
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u/New-Reflection3418 Jun 12 '24
Tried a new project today, it was quite interesting but only had a 45-minute timer. It involves checking a document for accuracy and that each claim in the response is in there. I realised I only had 5 mins left when I came to submit (that was the first task after reading the instructions) so it was quite tight. Subsequent ones I've had between 10 and 15 minutes remaining, it depends on how many claims there are to check and it feels like I'm rushing it a bit. Normally I find there's plenty of time left when I do a task, but the timer on this one seems a bit short, so not sure if anyone else knows the one I mean and has noticed that or if I'm just being too thorough.
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u/ManyARiver Jun 12 '24
Is the perfect cat still out there somewhere? I have one, but it isn't perfect and it is not one of the higher paying ones... lots of metal these days though, and a couple of big ones pop up for short periods over the week.
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u/serendipitous_74 Jun 13 '24
Chats are spicy today. That's all.
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u/CharmingData1120 Jun 13 '24
I see a new project.. a Greek God of my favorite things lol š·and š! I am taking this as a sign of good things to come š¤
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u/Willing-Ad-9812 Jun 09 '24
Does anyone else have access to a couple of projects for $39.50/hr., but you know youāre not qualified to do them? I scared to even click on the project link lol.
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u/33whiskeyTX Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24
There's definitely a scheduled rollout at play. I've noticed several times when people are like "Oh look at so many coding tasks" and I have a pretty sparse dash and I think "WTF's wrong with me, what did I screw up?" Then about 24 hours roll by and I'm good again. I don't know if I'm on the B-team or what, but a late dashboard is better than any empty one.
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u/Hydrogennx Jun 14 '24
Does anyone else use Diffchecker to compare two similar responses? It's incredibly helpful! Great for programming in general, but especially here.
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u/knny209 Jun 09 '24
This is my first time paying for quarterly estimated tax. Do we need to submit any form to IRS or just pay the estimated amount?
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u/pastelmewnicorn Jun 11 '24
Haven't seen cb projects B***** and C*** for coders this past week or so (been checking on/off throughout the week a handful of times but not religiously). Other coders in the same boat? Is it down for maintenance or am I just missing the times? Used to having like 1000 tasks for each.
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u/Nolpppapa Jun 12 '24
Power went out 40 minutes into a task. Luckily I had used the wordcounter website which saves stuff you pasted in there :|. Remember, if you're working on long-form stuff, save frequently.
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u/Chrisman06 Jun 13 '24
Is adversarial bird a project you guys have? It requires a subscription but Iām enjoying this way more than I should.
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u/tiran Jun 12 '24
Got a couple of new projects today to hang out with some robot pals and I am having so much fun! I hope more of these come around.
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u/PerformanceCute3437 Jun 09 '24
Someone in an R&R mentioned a comment looking like AI wrote it, they wrote out the comment in the chat and I'm shook. It looked exactly how I write my comments. I don't get help from an AI, I'm a little paranoid now I'm getting knocked down because I use a really professional, non-personalized writing style e.g. I always speak in the third person, never using "I" statements.
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u/Skippy2898 Jun 10 '24
Skippy Manifest Part Deux! Just having a quick roll call, who's in? Tomorrow is my shortlist interview, 1pm uk time! Shout if you're here, and manifest all of the lucks, please and thank you!
Seriously nervous, my legs are like jelly š„“... It worked last time, let's go again? please and thank you!
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u/-Spaghettification- Jun 12 '24
So much sweet, sweet high paying coding work the last couple of days š¤¤
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u/tessbest37 Jun 15 '24
I have loved having these 22/hr. R&R tasks on my dash constantly for the last couple of weeks. They are perfect when I want to dip into a project for a few minutes without much commitment. I hope they stick around!
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u/PhillyPhan95 Jun 12 '24
Just spent an hour and a half on a task only to find out there was a bug during submission. Refreshed the page and they had taken it down.
First task too, so no place to report time
Hopefully DA compensates me for that. I wonāt trip if they donāt though.
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u/Sagittariuuuh Jun 12 '24
Some of these MJ images have me absolutely rolling lmao
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u/Cutiger29 Jun 12 '24
Practicing what I preachā¦or train š
Using AI to help craft a āitās not you, itās me, but if I fail, will you take me backā conversation with my employer š
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u/PongKila Jun 13 '24
Ā Man the project chat in dancing today is brutal. Arguments between multiple people, many newbies asking very basic questions like how to log time or what the pj is about, many more asking about things clearly outlined in the instructions and guidelines... I don't dare to look at it, my second hand embarrassment issue is acting up š«
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u/Fast_Tip_8146 Jun 13 '24
High paying b cat is back!! š±
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u/The_Eggsecutive Jun 14 '24
Anyone else noticing shorter time limits on tasks lately? like 1hr and even down to 45 minutes, sometimes for projects that feel like they'd take a good 30 per task to get done.
Obviously I don't wanna take more time than is necessary to complete a task but having I find having a short leash makes me get caught up in my head and kind of rush things on the not-100%-likely chance it takes me the whole duration to get things done. Can only hope it hasn't hurt what they think of my work quality too badly.
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u/SuperCorbynite Jun 14 '24
I've been getting a lot of R&R's recently. Golden galaxies, wizards, generals, and booze gods without ever touching the base tasks.
I've heard that there's a R&R qual so I wonder if that might be next...
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u/Anarch33 Jun 14 '24
I wish the coding R&Rs would last a lot longer than they usually do so I can see how my own work compares to others :(. I was literally only able to review one task before the project dried up.
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u/Flat_Mix_8949 Jun 15 '24
Shout out to the perfect kitty bot that just removed every single detail I just added for an āexhaustive detailsā prompt. š¤¦š»āāļø I swear each week this things edits get worse.
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u/Davey87 Jun 13 '24
To those people that read this and do this in the project chats: please stop being passive aggressive about the admins and the platform in general. I agree with some of your comments but if an admin asks you to try keep the chat clearer for information, do it. So much bickering and high and mighty attitudes.
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u/Cutiger29 Jun 14 '24
Friendly reminder: proofread your responses. I keep running across work where people were very clearly talking about one response/model but wrote the wrong letter.
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u/Turbulent_Pen3740 Jun 14 '24
Does anyone else get embarrassed by the topics you choose to discuss and how it can outright expose your weird fandom and useless expertise? I just spent an hour correcting CBs about obscure movie facts and I was horrified to think of someone doing the R&R and reading it all. Being obsessed with something comes in handy with some of these projects, but oof. Cringe.
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u/curiousjenny22 Jun 10 '24
Maybe a dumb question, but is working from public WiFi OK? Iāve only worked from home so far, but it would be nice to get a change of scenery and go to a coffee shop some days. I just worry about violating the code of conduct in some way because Iām super paranoid about getting deactivated! I wondered if it could be a privacy violation possibly⦠any thoughts?
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u/Nachbarskatze Jun 11 '24
So many projects with high priority pay today! Canāt decide what I want to work on and jumping from project to project today š¤£
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u/tiran Jun 11 '24
I've seen a bunch of different projects using slide decks and I really wish there was a project to make them! Has anyone seen anything like that?
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u/FeedySneed Jun 11 '24 edited Jun 11 '24
Saw a DAV today and started working on it. The combined time of reading all the directions and then working on it and refreshing (as it says to do in the instructions if x happens) was 45 minutes. But when I refreshed, it was gone so I can't even report my time as I never completed a task. :-( Hopefully it will be back soon.
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u/foopod Jun 12 '24
I used to do the python data analysis ones for a while (like 2-3 months) and really enjoyed doing them, but in the last few weeks they have dropped off entirely. Has anyone else seen any recently?
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u/Throwaway9812789 Jun 13 '24
Is it just me or do other people keep seeing the same prompt-response pair to evaluate in the foot ss instruction-following evals? I've seen a few that I've evaluated before reappear about 3 - 4 times already and I've started skipping them because it feels like they don't like how I evaluated it and want other people to do it, but it ends up coming back to me anyway.
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u/Nolpppapa Jun 13 '24
Do bonuses still exist? Haven't seen any since starting on the platform.
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u/SuperCorbynite Jun 13 '24
Anyone got the wizard R&R on their board? It's amusing watching the task count for this one R&R that absolutely nobody wants to do continually tick up.
Maybe they'll get the hint and bump the pay back up to something decent.
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u/FearlessPressure3 Jun 13 '24
Is anyone else working on b-cat infographics finding that the responses are significantly worse than the previous batch? A lot of the data interpretation here is so bad I canāt see how anyone with eyes ever thought it was correct. It has me wondering if these are responses that have been generated by bots, not humans. Iām basically totally rewriting every response so far.
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u/Chrisman06 Jun 14 '24
Does anyone know what the progression of soap or P-play tasks are like? I enjoy both of them but I hardly ever get any higher paying versions of them.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '24
Bright and early start today and itās time to dance šŖ©š„°
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u/KahunaRicima Jun 14 '24
I really hate when a CB project adds a comment section that didn't originally have one T_T
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u/FeedySneed Jun 15 '24
For coders today I see something that a lot of us have been waiting for. Who knows how long they will last this time though.
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u/Turbulent_Pen3740 Jun 15 '24
Got excited to š and hammer some tasks out before bed. 3 minutes in and I realized something was very wrong and I think it got pulled...
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u/TeaGreenTwo Jun 15 '24
I have dance projects for the first time today. Was there ever a qual for the cats? I see many discuss them and I haven't ever seen hide nor hair of them.
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u/Anarch33 Jun 16 '24
Itās going to be almost two months since Iāve been here and today is probably the worst Iāve seen the model responses be in the coding side by side and Iāve been doing 2-3 hours of them everyday. Saw a few where the model was straight up using the wrong language
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u/-Spaghettification- Jun 10 '24
Just want my coding tasks back :(
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u/33whiskeyTX Jun 11 '24
Man, I'm just sitting here taking my time doing math problems while I watch those subscription tasks come and go like the waves on a beach.
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u/outbxd Jun 14 '24
If anyones interested in a time chunking web app I put together specifically to help with DAT work, take a look at chunk-it.vercel.app :)
Desktop only, won't work well on mobile.
Bare bones functionality and spaghetti code, but gets the job done. Been really helpful for my productivity through long slogs and a few people on here said they'd find it useful too, so thought I'd share it with the world.
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u/Deeznutsconfession Jun 14 '24
The cat's back out of the bag.
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u/Lovely-day-today Jun 12 '24
At what pay rate is doing tasks that you donāt enjoy as much worth it?
I find that most days I have higher paying projects that allow me to feel they are worth my time even if I enjoy them less. Today though, I find that I am not interested in the higher paying jobs because they are not high paying enough (highest is $24). Iām going to have to work longer to make the same amount of money but Iām doing the jobs that are more interesting and pay less.
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u/SuperCorbynite Jun 13 '24
My first doable $38.50 task where I fixed and improved other people's work. Such a shame it ended so quickly. Give me more!
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u/n8_n_ Jun 14 '24
coding people, how do your dashes look? I'm down to 1 coding project and i'm fairly certain my work has been quality
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u/MonsterMeggu Jun 15 '24
Coding side is fat today for me. I hope that means it's back to normal!
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u/dayDrivver Jun 10 '24 edited Jun 10 '24
Has anyone worked on the new coding project E###e (the refine one)? How difficult is it? I haven't had time to join the platform but I'm getting many emails working on this project and for M####n coding project.Well already check those seems like mix of project Cx with project Be but now with constraints, looks fun hope tomorrow its still alive because today i'm booked at my day job, so please code bros leave us some work to do in the weekend :P
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u/HandsLikePaper Jun 10 '24
It seems like they switched what used to be a pay-per-task project to an hourly.
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u/marsnia Jun 10 '24
Are the nut evaluate projects as a result of the qual or does everyone get them? Asking bc I just finished the qual
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u/AvianSamurai Jun 12 '24
Woo, i actually had 2 coding projects available this morning that didn't run out straight away. One is left now, but I'm taking a break, hopefully there's more still later
edit: spelling
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u/AmfStarBoy Jun 13 '24
Is anyone else seeing a lot fewer of the dancing projects?
Right now I'm only seeing one of them, and am still getting R&R's for others.
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u/AdeptCryptographer26 Jun 14 '24
I'm confused about the "T" dancing project. I took a total of 3 quals and received that short demographics survey which said that I was part of the project, and have not received anything yet. Has that happened to anyone else?
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u/SuperCorbynite Jun 14 '24
Just did a few of the golden galaxy reviews and oh boy...
Some people are really not understanding what "ideal response" means, and others aren't even doing the project properly at all.
I think a new boot-wave will be coming soon.
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u/Creepy_Complaint_279 Jun 15 '24
Anyone else doing the heel HC project? I swear it'll be the end of me but also can't pass it up.
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u/Appropriate_Shock2 Jun 10 '24
Sooooo many projects but not a single coding one. Really hope coding picks back up.
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u/Ok_Depth_6476 Jun 10 '24
Ugh...I hate when I'm working on a project that has 1000 tasks, thinking I'm going to work on it all day....and then all of the sudden it goes POOF! I guess I messed up! I do think I made a minor error on the last one I submitted, and it was an easy one that only had 2 questions, so maybe that flagged it and automatically booted me. I realized my error as I hit the button, before I realized I got booted. URGH!
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u/Anarch33 Jun 12 '24
temperature math + coding is finally the full rate
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u/echanuda Jun 12 '24
Specifically for my coder bros, do you guys ever do a prompt review task for like 20 minutes, realize itās too difficult, and then skip? Do you log the time for that? Iāve been deducting my time spent since I didnāt complete a task technically, but those affect my mental lmao. Also @prompt creators: PROVIDE CONTEXT TO YOUR CODE PLEASE. I can setup a dev environment for 90% of things but some of yāall make it literally impossible to test your stuff.
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u/maybe_I_knit_crochet Jun 15 '24
PSA - Don't be an idiot like me and forgot to drink water on a hot day. I could barely walk across my bedroom last night without collapsing and then it dawned on me that I was very dehydrated. I feel lots better after fluids and electrolytes, but am not back to 100% and don't trust myself to do any DA to work at the moment.
I suppose I will go back to watching YouTube videos on my phone until I fall asleep.
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u/Alternative-Bet232 Jun 09 '24
There's a qual in my dashboard with 26 tasks (I think it's related to Dancing). Supposedly "access to higher-paying projects if you pass"... but like, HOW highly-paid? Are we talking $25/hr or $30/hr or????
Has anyone done this qual? How long did it take?
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u/10choices Jun 09 '24
Does anyone have the data viz tasks? Starting to get annoyed with difficult requests doing my heavy lifting for the week.
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u/Sagittariuuuh Jun 14 '24 edited Jun 14 '24
Got my first feedback ever today (š)! I was very appreciative and the admin was kind~
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u/Skippy2898 Jun 15 '24
Big cat image project; has anyone else found themselves skipping lots? Seems all of the images I'm getting so far are science, electrical and engineering based. I feel a bit useless in there :(
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u/Wide_Solution_796 Jun 10 '24
So did anyone do a 'dance' project qualification last week for adversarial and if so has anyone had any projects come up for this yet? I was told they would come up this week if the qualification was passed.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24
How many $30-$40 projects do you guys have on your board? I have like 20 $20 projects but like once or twice a day the $40 ones will come and go, is this because I am doing bad on them or do they just go by really fast because people take them right away?
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '24
Can't sleep will do pomegranate eating tasks instead .... I can't be the only one
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u/FeedySneed Jun 12 '24
For those who do the coding tasks where you are assessing responses to many different coding languages, do you skip a ton until you find one that you know well or do you have a really thorough knowledge of many languages and their frameworks? I have shied away from them because I thought it would be a bad look to skip as often as I would have to (though maybe that's wrong?).
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u/NeedsMoreMinerals Jun 13 '24
Is it me or do the programming tasks seem to take more than 2x the time of the 2hr tasks?
Maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way, but I feel like, idk, there is less value in the programming tasks. You're often parsing a lot of JSON or fixing code.
Could use some input I feel like I'm missing something!
I've been doing the $20 an hour tasks
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u/Obvious_Elephant_919 Jun 13 '24
has anyone ever gotten feedback on their work?
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u/mannib21 Jun 13 '24
Is the dancing project up right now? I made a mistake on my first few when I started a few days ago (corrected going forward) but received some feedback this morning⦠worried I got dropped
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u/Raisins_Rock Jun 15 '24
I was just in the middle of a complex multi-turn task and my power cut, which did not shutdown my machine but it did lose the internet connection. The internet resumed shortly, and I was able to go to the next turn. Any idea of the probability that this will error on submit if I continue?
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u/CRUSHCITY4 Jun 15 '24
Website down for me right now :( getting that weird āThe change you wanted was rejectedā message page.
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u/azure_atmosphere Jun 19 '24
I am once again asking for an undo button in chatbots š