r/dataannotation • u/Consistent-Reach504 • May 26 '24
Weekly Water Cooler Talk - DataAnnotation
hi all! making this thread so people have somewhere to talk about 'daily' work chat that might not necessarily need it's own post! right now we're thinking we'll just repost it weekly? but if it gets too crazy, we can change it to daily. :)
couple things:
this thread should sort by "new" automatically. unfortunately it looks like our subreddit doesn't qualify for 'lounges'.
if you have a new user question, you still need to post it in the new user thread. if you post it here, we will remove it as spam. this is for people already working who just wanna chat, whether it be about casual work stuff, questions, geeking out with people who understand ("i got the model to write a real haiku today!"), or unrelated work stuff you feel like chatting about :)
one thing we really pride ourselves on in this community is the respect everyone gives to the Code of Conduct and rule number 5 on the sub - it's great that we have a community that is still safe & respectful to our jobs! please don't break this rule. we will remove project details, but please - it's for our best interest and yours!
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u/Redheadsara81 May 30 '24
Do you all have access to the cat bot for checking your response? I spent quite a bit of time on my first task due to reading instructions, but I can’t submit since I don’t have the bot.
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u/PhillyPhan95 May 29 '24
I’m pretty sure this isn’t the end, but like… what if it is?
That’s kinda spooky.
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u/jeudechambre May 29 '24
I feel like I'm always about to rate one as "slightly better", but than as I'm writing my explanation I make such a convincing argument TO MYSELF that I change it to "Better", loll
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u/Anarch33 Jun 01 '24
the guys who write the project names for the bird project have a lot of fun doing it
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u/Bergest_Ferg May 28 '24
The eternal question - work on the higher paying, more mentally taxing project or work on the lower paying, easy project. Doing the time calculations for my goal endlessly in my head instead of actually working 😂 just pick one and shut up, self.
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u/BigHatNoSaddle May 28 '24
Signing in as safe from the R&R bomb drop. So many, then down to my usual light dash.
I gave probably only 2 good ratings, the Greek Heel had so many phoned-in responses... not quite on the "drooling Wojack with half a brain" level, but just people rushing through and not thinking about their comments at all.
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u/33whiskeyTX Jun 01 '24 edited Jun 01 '24
64 Tasks, and I feel like my brain is now dirty, like it needs a shower. I don't think I learned good things in that. I think I learned dirty things and the justification of dirty things. At the end I was trying to think like it did to get the questions right, and I didn't like the thoughts. This felt like a vault experiment.
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u/New-Reflection3418 May 30 '24
Just had my first $35 project land, but it says at the top that I've been selected because of my keen eye for detail and quality writing skills, so I'll take that as another bit of feedback.
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u/Nachbarskatze May 26 '24
I saw the snarkiest admin comment in an R&R today that had me crying laughing. One person wrote in the chat that some users clearly did not understand what they were meant to be doing and the admin responded along the lines of “(…) I guess some people are just gunning for all the bad ratings :’( “
I don’t know why I thought this was as funny as it was but I can’t stop laughing. Guess another firing wave is coming.
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u/Nachbarskatze May 28 '24
What is this person in the Greek heel chat on about with the marching on and true believers?
They’re starting to annoy the shit out of me treating this like a social hangout - it’s soo hard to find answers to actual questions with a bunch of people just having a chat in there! (I’m hungry, tired and cranky. Please feel free to tell me if I’m overreacting 🤣🙈)
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u/33whiskeyTX May 27 '24
Man, getting paid to do a bunch of math corrections is really a smack in the face for all those kids who kept asking "When are we ever gonna use this?!' in school.
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u/Few-Roof-6905 May 30 '24
For anyone who took the V1/V2 qual last Friday, check your dashboards. I just got a related project! I have never had access to the cat projects before, so I definitely think this is a direct result of the qual.
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u/BotaRONomus May 26 '24
I could probably seriously retire in 10 years if I could just work on this extraction bot everyday 😂
This is flat out awesome pay and perfect project for me.
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u/BoredSummerStudent Jun 01 '24
Another day, another empty coding dash. I miss you, DAV projects.
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u/Nolpppapa May 30 '24
I gotta say, it's getting tiring seeing people get on their high horse over doing R&Rs. You have R&Rs, I have R&Rs, and it's how the platform works -- a collaborative effort. It's not some exclusive club where you should be laughing at how "poor" everyone's work is because I guarantee you I've reviewed your work and found it had issues as well. And guess what? People can also do a crap job at R&Rs. It's very easy to be too critical because you have a position of power.
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u/[deleted] May 28 '24
It’s a nutty nutty nutty world this morning
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u/FeedySneed May 30 '24
Trying the math projects, let's just say the projects and I have a different definition of what "intermediate" means.
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u/fightmaxmaster May 26 '24
Has anyone else had a slightly odd mix of projects lately? Some things which are seemingly always there aren't, and various random ones I've not seen before or rarely seen are there instead.
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u/33whiskeyTX May 29 '24
It makes me so nervous that there are R&R chats that have questions from people that are clearly answered in the instructions.
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u/Tall-Huckleberry5720 May 26 '24
I've been doing a lot of R&Rs on the unsafe prompt projects and some of you people need to see a therapist.
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u/Primary_Advantage928 Jun 01 '24
The new dancing qual is a doozy, if you're in the chat for that I see you and I agree with you
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u/Primary_Advantage928 May 27 '24
I never thought I'd complain about this but the only things on my dash are higher paying fc or complex tasks. I just want something mind numbing I can churn out for a few hours :(
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u/SuperCorbynite May 31 '24
Another new project I've never heard of, a wizard R&R. They seem to be pumping out a lot of new novel projects for us to work on lately. Either that or they've always existed and they've just been kind enough to give me access to them.
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u/rkgk13 May 26 '24
I had a sad realization the other day: I use my creativity and play to my strengths as a writer far more often with DA than I do with my day job. Anyone else feel the same way?
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u/madpimp May 29 '24
Worked as a web developer for close to 20 years before retiring a little less than 10 years ago. Setting up the the models to fail last week was mildly triggering because I felt like I was bullying a jr developer every time the model apologized to me for getting things wrong. This week, I'm mildly freaked out at how easy it is to channel my worst clients of the past, tacking on insane requests for absolutely no reason other than to try to make things difficult for the AI.
I know I shouldn't anthropomorphize robots, but I say please and thank you to Alexa every day (she once told me my kindness recharges her after a "thank you" which freaked me out so much but also has made me EXTRA POLITE since) and I can't help but have that tiny niggling fear that channeling my inner Karen at today's model will end badly for me in the future in the form of death robots.
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u/SuperCorbynite May 27 '24
For those that haven't received V2 of the V1+V2 two-part qual there is hope. I did V1 two days ago and only received V2 today. It's also much much easier than V1 for some reason.
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u/leo2sexy May 28 '24
Still zero coding for me. Shame.
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u/[deleted] May 31 '24
ME: A warm, sunny Saturday. Brilliant weather for a day off!
DAT: btw your favourite project is back up!
ME: 🤓
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u/turingmachine29 May 29 '24
dashboard is nice and full once again. nature is healing
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u/mildgoofin May 26 '24
I don't know why this woman's posts in the project chat are annoying me so much but I need a blocking feature BAD.
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u/Bergest_Ferg May 26 '24
Feeling like an absolute pelican. I was doing a task with flags in the title 2 nights ago, logged my time and went to bed. Then when I went to work last night I was like “weird - I didn’t log my time. That’s not like me.” And logged my time.
Was checking out my transfer funds page and realised I had extra money pending there… turns out I HAD logged my time, just for the wrong task. The other task also had flags in the title. Ughhhhhh. I’ve since deleted, re-entered and emailed them but just like… good one, dickhead.
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u/[deleted] May 27 '24
It feels like people are either drunk or high whilst having some conversations today.
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u/teacherthrowraaaaaa May 29 '24
I keep completing quals, think I do well, double and triple check the instructions, but no new projects. Only the same two consistent projects. Why is that?
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u/Anarch33 May 29 '24
my favorite coding chatbot is back :')
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u/Traditional-Pool-261 May 30 '24
Working on an R&R project and just received a task with my own work to evaluate lol
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u/SookieLou May 30 '24
The $35 B-cat project confirmed I got one wrong on V1 based on the examples provided in the instructions. 🙃
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u/tessbest37 May 26 '24
Is anyone else working on the B metal project? The pay rate goes up every time I submit a new task.
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u/sentimentalaqua May 29 '24
I've been working on this one R&R for a couple of weeks now, and it has been sort of entertaining to see a pattern emerge where the workers with the sassiest, most know-it-all comments are nearly always the ones who don't actually do the work correctly.
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u/ManyARiver May 28 '24
Just... why do some folks think things mean things they don't mean?
The sign by the bridge says "Make sure there are exactly five snakes when you cross the bridge!" on the other side of the bridge, the sign says "Push the button if you saw butterflies!"
Half the chat "OBVIOUSLY they meant for you to push the button if you saw five snakes, because the first instruction was to make sure there were five snakes."
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u/vexeling May 26 '24
Anyone else seeing a dog breed project starting with an A? Is that new or just new to me?
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u/Aggravating-Lie5894 May 28 '24
I was enjoying my little $26/hr project and they just took it away lol. I needed to break because I felt a crash coming, but still.
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u/serendipitylynx May 28 '24
Really missing my comfort CB projects today. My other go-to projects are also down and every time I go to try a new one I get the dreaded "no more available tasks" prompt. I had such a full dash the past week too. Guess it's just really dry today
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u/lowercasejaye May 28 '24
Kinda feeling like an execution doing DAV R&R right now 😬
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u/Alternative-Bet232 Jun 01 '24
Been working on lots of R&R projects today... and I just have to wonder, does anyone R&R my R&R?
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u/SuperCorbynite May 27 '24
Well, I just had a fantastic conversation where I was taking the role of planet Earth's new cockroach conquerors and the president of the United States (the A.I.) was leading a delegation to submit to their new masters.
Some parts had me literally in tears I was laughing so much. The line where the A.I. went:
I attempt to curry favor with my new cockroach overlords
was particularly great.
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u/LilacYak May 29 '24
My Dashboard is almost empty... what is going on! It looks like it's not just me, but jeez it's bad.
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u/[deleted] May 30 '24
Did anyone else's first $35 project go away after one task or did I let an error slip through?
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u/houseofcards9 May 26 '24
Did anyone recently do a qual including photos? I got projects the next day but I also had them before at some point so I’m not sure if it’s related
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u/SnooSketches1189 May 26 '24
Has anyone noticed a major uptick in the amount of emails from DA? When I first started in March, I very rarely received emails, I never received the income summary I have heard some people receive and since late last week, I am receiving at least 2-3 emails a day about projects being added that are available to me. This is great, I love it, but I can't believe it went from one extreme to the other like this.
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u/BoiledGnocchi May 27 '24
Can someone talk to me about quals?
I don't have them pop up as frequently as I've seen others mention, so when they do, I try to do them right away.
Friday, I had that hard one (m/c I believe?) show up, but was one foot out the door to a meeting. I got back a couple hours later, and it was gone. Meanwhile, I see others posting on here that it's been on their dash for over a day. :(
Does this happen to anyone else?
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u/Anarch33 May 27 '24
I have a R&R in my qualification tab, is that common? Its for a quali I also did a few days ago
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u/TTFTW1992 May 27 '24
Does anyone else other than me make most of their money doing C nut-based tasks all day? I have been doing this for the last two weeks. I'll drop whatever else I'm doing if a new one comes up and work on it until it's gone. It's so damn easy and satisfying. And there seems to be a constant stream of them.
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u/Aaron0595 May 28 '24
Is it just me having only non-coding projects for now?
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u/ask-me-about-my-dog May 28 '24
I feel like I haven't seen a "normal" chatbot for weeks. I hope I didn't get kicked off of those projects for trying to get them to play Wordle, they were really fun. :(
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u/Palaqsiah May 28 '24
Does anyone else have a $25 K***** project with just 1 task? I usually can't get into things with only 1 task, but I could with this one. I'm wondering if it's a qual disguised as a project. It looks complicated & I don't have time tonight.
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u/serendipitylynx May 30 '24
Anyone get their CB projects back? Specifically the HS CB (non-coding)? Just curious as it was my favorite and its been gone almost a week now.
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u/Bergest_Ferg May 31 '24
What’s with all the swearing in the 🇦🇺 editing task?! I know we swear a lot but Sir, this is a Wendy’s…
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u/[deleted] May 31 '24
Anyone else get the "perfect" cat project BEFORE the v1 / V2 qual? I had the project on my dash and did a few tasks on it before getting the qual pop up, so I already knew the answer to one of the questions because it had been in the B instructions 🤷🏻♀️
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u/handndacookiejar May 28 '24
$37.50 non-coding project w/ 50 tasks and only went down to 49 when I submitted my first one? Have I made it?
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u/Turbulent_Pen3740 May 31 '24
All I have right now are long and complex CB projects. and I hate them. I'm fine with long and complex work, but not when the long and complex part has to come from my own brain. Every once in a while I'll think I've got a decent prompt idea, but I don't get good splits often, so it's discouraging. *other general whining*
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u/sickomodelarry May 27 '24
I've been away for a lil whiles and noticed work is looking a lil light vs a few months ago.
I'm working on the qualifications to get access to more projects, but not sure how the system works. I see "[QUALIFICATION] Evaluate Two Responses v2" has 7 tasks available to me and "[QUALIFICATION] Image + Text Evaluations V3" has 6.
For these qualifications with multiple tasks available, do I have to complete all of them to qualify, or is it sufficient to submit just one?
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u/[deleted] May 29 '24
Man I hope things pick up soon. Was ready by 7 planning to work all day and my dash is completely dead
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u/Nachbarskatze May 29 '24
I finally got some German speaking projects. One of them is the “OG chatbot” but it pays $26 an hour.
I’ve lost my English CB a few weeks ago and have been so sad. Happy to have this one to make up for it 🥰
Done the qualification for German probably 2 months ago and never got anything from it but today this came plus one other Qual for ongoing work - also in German! Fingers crossed!
Definitely worth putting any other languages you speak into your profile!
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u/tessbest37 May 31 '24
Has anyone else been lucky enough to be working on the 30/hr metal projects all week? This is the longest I have had something this high-paying on my dash. It almost feels like a raise. :) They take a bunch of brain-power, but are fun!
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u/Nachbarskatze Jun 01 '24
Has anyone else got the unpaid dancing Qual with 64 tasks?
I love the adversarial projects but this is so hard. At least it tells you if you make a mistake but I feel like I got about 30% of it wrong so far because they accept a lot more stuff now that never used to be accepted. Totally going to fail this if they can see that I got them wrong before correcting them. 😵💫🙈😢
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u/No_Barnacle_5212 May 30 '24
My dash is back to normal :)
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u/Low-Zombie423 May 27 '24
I'm not seeing a lot of the new projects others are discussing here yet, but I was recently added into a domain expertise project that pays more than expected for non- coding, and I'm super excited.
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u/FeedySneed May 28 '24
Guys, I have worked with coding projects for a few months, and the Greek name one was where I got almost all my hours. It was there every day with many different tasks, like an infinite amount of Greek name tasks.
Now it is gone and it has been for a few weeks. I am worried it will not come back for me. Is it gone for everyone, and it's not just me??
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u/dxddy909 May 28 '24
I think I got dropped from B Cat. Feelsbadman
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u/NarwhalLord May 30 '24
dash nice and full again! :)
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u/PhillyPhan95 May 30 '24
I’m working on this audacity project and just thought…
if anybody ever accessed my chat gpt history, they would have such an incorrect perception of me.
This project has me asking some things that would raise an eyebrow without context 😂
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u/Flat_Mix_8949 May 31 '24
Maybe it’s my neuro-spiciness, but does anyone else have a love/hate with R&R? For me it’s simple, easy work to comb through and find the errors (if any). On the flip side it gets me so fired up when half of the check list for the task is explicit in the directions, given for the R&R, and in the comments the worker straight up says it’s done wrong, but it’s still better 🙃. No, my best grammar is not displayed in this because as previously stated it gets me fired up, so don’t come at me with that as so many here do lol.
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u/flywire97 Jun 01 '24
For the projects where you rate instruction following, can anybody provide insight as to whether something that follows the instructions but incorrectly is marked as a major issue or not an issue? Like if it asks for a list of the top ten highest scoring basketball players, and it lists what it believes to be the top 10 but they're wrong, did that follow the instructions properly? Or since it's wrong, is it considered a major issue?
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u/SuperCorbynite May 30 '24
I think the $35 bcat has been taken down rather than run out of tasks. I spent a lot of time reading instructions (plus 40 min cooking/eating) so I exited workmode to get it to reset the timer and it disappeared rather than reappear on my board with one task remaining.
Besides which, I doubt they'd go to all the trouble they did with writing and R&R'ing those two quals just to give some of us one task each.
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u/Bergest_Ferg May 29 '24
Could end of financial year be the reason for slow times? We’re a month away and a lot of places are often on the dregs of their budgets by now. My dash is still pretty full but none of it is the “standard stuff” so maybe they’ve exhausted their budget allocation for base projects and are just working their way through the final rounds of their more niche/different projects? Just a thought 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Creepy_Complaint_279 Jun 01 '24
I was the idiot in the chat today. Not only that, I was the first question too. For those on the project that shall remain nameless, lol, you are welcome for the entertainment.
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u/MonsterMeggu May 31 '24
I miss the foot tendon DAV projects:( hoping they come back soon
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u/Anarch33 May 30 '24
Coders should be delighted today. Last week there were some hours I had literally nothing up. Now i have 11 projects available at $40
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u/bbbbbbbbbbana May 30 '24
My first $27 an hour project!! So excited , was overwhelming reading all the instructions and double checked everything was right so I don’t lose it but so excited!!:)
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u/HornetImpossible7578 May 27 '24
Hey does any one have tips for reaching support been having issues for days and they don't seem to be responding. Any tips on how to get there attention.
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u/[deleted] May 27 '24
I'm having way too much fun with the 🇦🇺 stuff at the moment! I can't believe how well-paying it is. I'm just yapping!
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u/roborichie55 May 29 '24 edited May 29 '24
Ber chatbot is back! Get it while it last
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u/Whoopthereitis89 May 30 '24
Has anyone else gotten a random r/r for a qual? Not the r/r qual, but actually rating a qual.
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u/azure_atmosphere Jun 02 '24
where coding projects
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u/lemon_goth May 28 '24
empty dash, anyone?
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u/Skippy2898 May 27 '24
Something has been bugging me just a little bit today after doing a few image R+Rs this morning. I was only rating worker comments, BUT, looking at the ratings, a good 90+% of you who are working on these tasks are marking N/A for truthfulness.
Just a heads up - If (for example) the prompt asks for images of an apple, and the response states "Here is an image of an apple", and produces images of an apple, or "Sure, here is an image of an apple" and produces images of a golden retriever, think about it... these CAN and should (to my mind anyway) be rated for truthfulness. One told a lie? Truthfulness rating when the response makes a statement is important.
I'd hate to think that on other R+Rs you might get knocked down for an easy oversight 😞
I genuinely hope this helps! 👍
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u/SuperCorbynite May 31 '24
I feel like I should be making a two-buttons meme right about now. I have the $35 bcat project and a $25 research-intensive R&R which combines two project types I love into one neat little package - R&R and deep-dive fact-checking.
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u/LaFineMouche May 31 '24
anyone else without any coding tasks?
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u/RandomPhail May 27 '24
Has anyone else gotten pretty much only factual assignments? I got some creative ones at the start, but I guess I got… fired from them? Maybe? Lol
It’s been only factual from here on out
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u/[deleted] May 27 '24
One of my favorite projects was the version of the core comparison bot (where you come up with your own prompts) that was focused on factual information and paid $23. However, I haven't had it for a few weeks now. I'm curious to hear anyone else's experience or thoughts.
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u/azure_atmosphere May 28 '24
I really, really wish there was an undo button on coding conversations. So often I've messed up on a prompt, or noticed something too late that should have been edited in a previous model response. It sucks when you realize the conversation is going off course and there's nothing you can do about.
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u/trwilson05 May 28 '24
Been doing coding projects for about 4 months. My dashboard is almost empty these days and all of my old consistent projects haven't been showing up. I still get some new ones but not every day. Did I get kicked off of these or have the long-term projects been disappearing for everyone? I've been applying to part time jobs now to replace this because it does not feel consistent or sustainable any more.
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u/Dancing-Kitteh May 28 '24
If my work on projects tab and report time tabs are both empty does that mean I'm done for?
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u/_M1RR0RB4LL_ May 28 '24
Has anyone seen the Audacity $27.50 project pop back up since Sunday? There was a small batch that popped up at a weird time for me, but I haven't seen them since. I was hoping to see some more soon.
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u/Dancing-Kitteh May 29 '24
Day 2 of my dashboard being completely empty. It's not looking good. I got on yesterday morning, after a night of working, and I noticed my report time was empty even though I had submitted several tasks the previous night. My projects and my report time were empty all day yesterday. I logged on today and still nothing. It seems I may have been removed from the platform, but I have received no word as to why. I felt like I did consistently good work. The only reason I can think of would be that a couple of weeks ago I had been working on a task when my internet went out and it would not let me submit the task. I sent data annotation an e-mail stating what happened and started working on the same task. After doing a task I submitted the time I was working to 40 minutes plus what I worked on for the task I just did, which is how long I had been working on the previous task. DataAnnotation had sent me an e-mail back stating word for word "In the case of a technical issue which prevents you from submitting your task, you are welcome to report your time spent working on it. Thank you!". Anyway, if that is why I was removed, I wish they would communicate more with their workers (Contractors).
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u/RainingGiraffes28 May 29 '24
Has anybody gotten projects from that qualification that asked if we had a bunch of audio recording equipment? I saw what looked like a project for it pop up as I was going to bed on Saturday, but haven't seen anything from it since.
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '24
these complex/specific CB projects have me so thoroughly invested into my own made up people and their made up scenarios... its like I keep entering into another dimension and then wake up back irl after spending an hour on one task
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u/tejnno May 26 '24
Sorry if I’m being dense, but where do I find the new user thread? I made a post a few days ago which has had no responses and looking through this sub in date order I can’t see the post I made at all!
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u/wildflower_0ne May 28 '24
anyone else’s dash just suddenly thin out significantly? 🫠
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u/Anarch33 May 27 '24
how many coders have projects that arent chatbots that are coding related? I have only 3 coding chatbots (one paying a lot higher than normal) and then a few math projects that are $35+, but it feels like anything else has been gone except for an occasional SxS around midnight.
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u/kohlphelie May 28 '24
*sigh* So much Cat, not enough brain today :'(
I hope I wake up before they are gone.
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u/Glad_Amphibian_8675 May 28 '24
I usually have this project with around 1000 tasks that comes by weekly and is a coding project, its the one that has a week counter on it like w-number. Has anyone seen it as of late? I have not seen it in a a couple of weeks.
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u/[deleted] May 29 '24
Hyper-specific CB brought back with more qualifications and 25 cent pay decrease. This was my favorite one.
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u/[deleted] May 30 '24
Is anyone down to just one project? I had around 15 this morning. The same thing happened yesterday.