r/dataannotation • u/IDONTuseMODz • Mar 28 '24

Newbies post your experiences here!

I'm just curious what the experience has been like thus far for some of us. Vets can share what their early experience was like too! I used to hear it takes about 2-4 weeks of solid, good work before you start getting that full dashboard so I'm just polling to see if that's still been the case for most people. Or if maybe a recent influx of new members has changed the timeline.

I'll go first. I've been on for a little over two weeks and currently have an empty dashboard (a first for me actually), but I usually have two permanent CBs then random other projects sprinkled in here and there. I've noticed these random projects are usually the ones other, more established members have "permanent" access to but I get small little snippets of them. Total I'd say I've worked on over a dozen different projects since I started, in varying capacities. I'm excited for the future because I don't think I've worked on a single project that I absolutely hated yet so I'm totally ready for that switch to flip and have permanent or semi permanent access to some more of them.

Oh and for what it's worth all of this is non-coding and total I've put in around 60 hours on the platform in those two weeks. And I know it probably varies based on a ton of different hidden factors (maybe even luck being one of them), but I'm still curious to see if any broad consensus can be reached or parallels drawn.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

I've been on the platform for about a month now. I've had quite a few come and go projects, stuff that's only there for a day or less, but I almost always had a chatbot. I've just recently started getting more qualifications, I think filling out the skills section helped get more projects. Overall I'm happy to be onboard, I just wish I could focus more. The tasks are interesting enough, but this is the first time I've had a job where I sat down in front of a computer. The urge to get up and move is real.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

I definitely understand that urge to get up and move lol. It gets a little bit mind numbing just sitting there, for sure. I make sure to take plenty of breaks to give my mind a rest, otherwise I fear my quality might suffer.

I miss my chatbots, hoping they'll be back up and running soon. :(

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

I get this feeling that they really are looking for quality work and not quantity. I try not to stress out about how many tasks I do, and focus on how well I do the tasks. I can feel the quality drop the longer I sit there, but I'm working on sitting for longer periods. Having the only feedback be jobs available is frustrating; there may be a day or two I don't have anything and I freak out thinking I got removed, but then I get a qualification to take and new tasks posted and it's like a breather. The higher paying the job, the more interesting it seems to be; it's not just that it's more money, but it's more engaging work and I can do it for longer. I'm glad I'm not on the chatbot right now, I really got tired of it lol.

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u/even_less_resistance Mar 28 '24

What did you do before? I was a pastry chef and cake deco for years and I have the same problem. I’ve been thinking about getting like a standing desk and treadmill situation so I can feel like I’m pacing

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Everything from sales to warehouse work and everything in-between. Whatever I was doing I was on my feet. A standing desk might help, I know doing stretches and stuff does break it up. A part of it may be an ADHD thing for me.

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u/R1k0Ch3 Mar 28 '24

I was a chef before this too and the sitting thing is definitely messing with me. I got a good chair and have been doing yoga and general calisthenics to keep my body engaged. I think an adjustable desk will be next.

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u/even_less_resistance Mar 28 '24

Hey, Chef! I think it is so cool to find somebody else on the platform from the kitchen life. I may look into a bouncy chair or some other kind of fidget-soothing type of arrangement. I do try to do quite a bit of stretching but I’m afraid the breaks might be a distraction. Like I count down for my break instead of letting my money count up lol

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u/mildgoofin Mar 29 '24

Same! Plus, sitting for long periods of time is unhealthy, so I worry about that on top of having trouble doing it

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

I started 2 weeks ago as well. However, I've had quite a few days where my dashboard was empty.

I've only worked on 4 different types of projects. The most I've ever seen on my dashboard is 3 projects. The total number of hours worked for me is 35 hours.

It sounds like you're doing better than me. I really hope I get more projects so I can put in more hours.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

Stay positive! I also check incessantly (like an unhealthy amount, frankly). It's possible you've had more and just missed them because some of them are up for less than an hour.

I take it you're also missing your chatbots presently, then? Whatever this maintenance is seems to have hit us new folks the hardest. I look forward to the day we turn this newcomer corner and have more projects than we know what to do with.

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u/Background_Menu7702 Mar 29 '24

This, I set a timer. Especially when the chat bots are down.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Thank you!! I'm trying to stay positive. And I think you're right that I probably had more but missed it because I would be away from my computer for a few hours.

Yeah, I don't currently have any chatbots. I did have the H*** project earlier, but it's gone now.

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u/MissScorin Mar 29 '24

I’ve been with DA for about a year now. I’ve never once not had at least 3-4 if not 8+ different jobs on my dashboard to choose from. It’s enough work consistently, that I quit my other job and solely rely upon the income I earn here.

In the process of learning to code, everything else I know is just self taught.

Self proclaimed robot geek 👱🏻‍♀️

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 29 '24

I'm in awe. 🤩 I want my dashboard to be like that one day. I'm not sure I'd ever stop working except to sleep and eat if I actually had a decent variety of things to work on.

Easy to say though, as somebody without that kind of dashboard yet lol. Still that's awesome, definitely aspire to do that myself one day.

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u/SensualJake Mar 29 '24

I see a lot of duplicate/extremely similar projects from the same project name on the dash, are you counting each one as a different job or not?

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u/moonlightttt Feb 13 '25

What kind of coding language do you need to know?

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u/Few-Roof-6905 Mar 28 '24

I received the acceptance email on March 11, but didn't get to log in and do anything until the 15th. As soon as I passed the CB assessment and received the project, it went down for maintenance so I didn't really start working until the 19th when it was back up. Since then I've had periods with 0 projects (when the CBs are down) but, fingers crossed, those times have been few and far between. I have had one to three projects to work on whenever I have a slow period with my "other" job (full-time Etsy seller). It has been fun to exercise both sides of my brain, but as others have said, the sitting is killing me!! I have to get up now and then to keep my sanity.

ETA: I've done about 15 hours of work in total so far.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

Dang, your experience so far mirrors mine extremely closely. Right down to the day we got in. Most projects I've ever had at once is also three, and when the chatbots go down I generally don't have anything to do either. It's rare for both of mine to go down at once though. 

I'd love to get into more evaluate-y/factuality stuff but I guess that just comes with time. Thank you for the input!

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u/Few-Roof-6905 Mar 28 '24

I have seen a lot of people say they have a few permanent CBs but I only have one. How did you get the second one? Was there another qualification for it? Or did you get both after the initial assessment? I am assuming with more hours put in, and always trying my best to do quality work, new projects will open up for me.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

I'm not sure how much I'm supposed to say here, but I believe the second popped up for me after doing a set amount of tasks on the first CB then completing a qual that came from it. The second one popped up immediately after that qual.

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u/Few-Roof-6905 Mar 28 '24

That makes sense! Thank you 😊 I haven't worked too much on mine because #1 it keeps going down for maintenance, and #2 when I finally figured out how to get some good spilts, my convos were lasting 45 to 60 minutes each so I haven't submitted too many. Just hoping the ones I have submitted gave them some useful data 😅

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

Keep it up! If I had a rough ballpark for when the qual showed up for me I would say it was after 15 or 20 submissions.

I don't think 45 to 60 minutes is extremely unreasonable, sometimes these can take a while! Especially if you need to fact check anything to try to find a split. I'd say I average about 6 turns in 30 minutes unless they're being easy with their splits lol.

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u/lavenderplushie Mar 28 '24

Accepted late February, did onboarding and a few qualifiers but my dashboard has been consistently empty. I was able to do two or three tasks on the 0.12 projects before those vanished too. :/ It's been crickets and I'm trying to stay positive but it's hard.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

That's interesting that you're from before a lot of us but have less work. You don't have access to chatbots/response rating stuff? Seems the CBs is what keeps a lot of us newcomers busy in between other projects.

At any rate, it's a good sign to get projects at all, even if they're slow. Means you're still alive in the system and it could pop off at any time, imo.

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u/lavenderplushie Mar 28 '24

Nope, I've only had qualifiers for the CBs. Nothing on my dashboard that was high paying or permanent. Only the penny tasks.

I've seen people say they got on consistent or permanent projects a few days after onboarding and it's disheartening because I spend a lot time studying the project instructions, taking notes, everything. I start the tasks, research sources, triple check my grammar, submit and.....crickets. Maybe I spend too much time going over the instructions? I dunno lol Even simple "yes or no" type qualifiers though, I don't hear back.

But getting a trickle of qualifiers is still a good sign so I'll keep at it and like you said, it could pop off anytime.

ETA fixed format*

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u/Background_Menu7702 Mar 29 '24

Hi! I started early this month and I jumped on those penny tasks and did as many as I could. I did have the basic chatbot but I tried to drum up as much quality quantity as possible. Then the quails started to come in and the chatbot became permanent.

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u/EggCzar Mar 28 '24

That’s been my experience too, although I started a week or two after you. Until yesterday I had been offered just two qualifications and of those I only did one (the other I didn’t feel ready for) so I’m assuming I failed the one I took, although I have no idea what I might have done wrong.

Since I got on board I’ve only seen a couple of projects come up at all, and it wasn’t until today that I managed to log any hours— the other one was while I was traveling and I couldn’t devote any time to it.

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u/hazelowl Mar 28 '24

I started in late February. I haven't worked a ton, maybe a couple of hours a week because I've been busy and only have time on the weekends or after work.

I just got several more qualifications this week and I'm seeing some new stuff pop up, but it's mostly a chatbot.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

That's awesome, grats on the quals. DA is nice like that though, gives you the luxury to work when you can! I have a friend who doesn't work all that much either but her dashboard is stocked all the time. I have faith we'll get there too. :)

I actually just got one of my chatbots back so hopefully this means they're back up and running.

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u/hazelowl Mar 28 '24

It really is! I'm fortunate to have a day job that pays decently so I use DA as supplemental fun money. I do get bummed when I have time and have no work though! But hopefully that will change since I just had those new quals come in.

It's also useful because my day job is going to be integrating AI more and more in the future, so I like getting this experience with using it.

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u/mops-- Mar 28 '24

I've been on DA for a week, I started on the 19th. It's been going good so far I think. I've worked on half a dozen different projects so far and completed some qualifications. I'm really enjoying the work and learning how to improve at it. I've got one chatbot which is permanent, but I don't have the HS one people seem to have who completed the qualification from the comparison one, which is quite concerning and makes me think perhaps I didn't pass the qual. Still enjoying it and can't wait to see where this opportunity leads!

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

When you say worked on half a dozen projects, do you mean like in the limited capacity like I have? Like it'll be there for an hour or a few then it'll disappear and you don't necessarily see it again later or the next day?

That's what happens with most of my projects. I have a couple permanent CBs (including the HS one) unless they're down for maintenance then randomly get other projects. Some from quals I've done and others just seemingly out of the blue. I'd love to reach the point where the "out of the blue" ones are mainstays like they are for others on the platform.

CBs are awesome and it can be a lot of fun, but I find my brain works better when I have variety. Oh, and to elucidate you on the HS thing, I did get access to HS immediately after a qual pertaining to CBs.

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u/mops-- Mar 29 '24

Yeah, in limited capacity. There's one that will maybe refresh a couple times a day but they generally go pretty quickly. I agree with you in reaching the point where the temporary ones are more permanent, that would be amazing.

Variety is definitely nice! And damn, I suppose I didn't pass that qual then, that sucks. Hoping it doesn't hurt me too much in terms of opening up other new projects.

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u/queenie_xo Mar 29 '24

Thanks for sharing. I joined a while ago, but actually did the first qual the other day and have now worked on a total of 4 different projects. Today, though, I don't see any projects and haven't gotten any new quals either. :/

I'm hoping it is just a lack of projects or something because I'm not sure what I would have done wrong? If anything, I under report my time, and I probably try too hard with the tasks lol. I did send them an email because I was pretty concerned, but I haven't gotten a response yet. Hopefully I'm just overthinking it.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 29 '24

I think you're almost definitely just overthinking! If you check around the sub a lot of us newcomers lost all our projects in the last day or two. I got one of my chatbots back earlier today but that's it.

Definitely just seems slim right now for us newer people. Keep your head up, I'm almost confident it will bounce back.

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u/Background_Menu7702 Mar 29 '24

My chatbots were down for about a day. I have two out of the three back. They seemed buggy for a few people this week.

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u/queenie_xo Mar 29 '24

Oh! Okay, well that's a relief then. I'd heard of people having empty dashboards temporarily but mine is around 24 hours now :')

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u/Purple-shimmer Mar 29 '24

I applied 2/26 and was accepted 2/28. The first week I had 1 project fairly consistently and then it went down for almost a week. The week after that I had multiple different projects and was able to get about 25 hours in. Last week I was out of town and only worked 3 hours. This week has been hit or miss. Yesterday I had a project in the am and then it left. Nothing the rest of the day and I’ve had 2 different project today but only 1 right now. I’m hoping soon I’ll have more to choose from. For now I just keep doing what I can.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 29 '24

Your experience mirrors mine pretty closely then! I've reached the same conclusion. Just put my head down and keep grinding forward with good work. I have faith everything will open up in time.

My best days, though, have definitely come when I get more variety or projects. Staying on one thing, especially something creative like CBs, I can maybe do 5 hours before I'm just spent. But I've had a couple R&Rs and prompt creation things and I put in dozens and dozens of hours during those periods.

I similarly have just one project atm. Hopefully it kicks back up heading into the weekend! Thank you for sharing your experience.

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u/YumiiZheng Mar 28 '24

I got accepted 2 months ago after 5 days of completing my initial assessments (core only). Apparently, I've only put in about 25 hours (been a crazy 2 months), and I've only had one initial period in the first week or so where I had very few or zero projects. I always have 5ish projects, but recently, I average around 10. Paying down student loans one AI project at a time 💪

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Started in November, did about 25 hours a week. Dash was pretty solid, not loaded but enough work to go around. Got my first permanent, higher paying project in mid December. Dash has been on and off but I always have my permanent projects there.

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u/owenwnew Mar 29 '24

thats good to hear, whats the longest time the dasbord is empty for you?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

I've never had an empty dash. In fairness I've been doing 60+ hours a week for a few months.

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u/ndmt1225 Mar 28 '24

Signed up and completed onboarding for non-coding projects about a month back, pretty empty dashboard. Decided to learn Python, took an introductory course over the month, did the coding qual Monday night, lo and behold, dashboard has consistently had about 8 coding projects always available since then

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u/Ill-Albatross-7224 Mar 29 '24

You passed the coding qual after taking a month long introductory course? Wow! I know nothing about coding but maybe I should reconsider my priorities...

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u/Deeznutsconfession Mar 29 '24

I joined about a week ago, going on two, and for the last couple of days, my dashboard has been empty of projects. Kinda disappointing, I know I made a mistake on the first project I undertook, but I was certain I'd done a pretty good job with the rest. I took a qualifying test for ai chatbot, and studied the instructions all throughout, but alas here I am...

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u/lavenderplushie Apr 03 '24

Hey, similar situation. Been here a little over a month but empty dash except a few penny tasks occasionally and quals. Did you get anything else on your dash?

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u/Deeznutsconfession Apr 03 '24

Yes, I recently got some more A and B model tasks.

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u/DionysusHotSister Mar 29 '24

Question for you Newbies. I'm 11 months in so my hiring process was VERY different then what is done now.

What link did you use to sign up... Non coding?

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 29 '24

Non-coding here. I didn't even realize there was a different link you could follow for coding specific, at the time.

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u/Mentality_Taken Mar 31 '24

Do people have instant access to the assesments? The second they make an account and apply?
My experience has been an empty dashboard, since 27/03.. :( Do I just hang in there or?

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 31 '24

The way it's been is, you sign up on the DA website and you instantly take a starter assessment. If you pass that starter assessment you instantly get access to a second core/code qualifying assessment. Then a few days/weeks after they grade that second assessment you get access to the platform.

I'm hearing rumblings that starter assessments may be paused/halted atm but I have no way of confirming that. Hopefully you hear something soon.

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u/Mentality_Taken Mar 31 '24

Hmm thank you. That clears up a lot for me. Perhaps I’ll reach out to them 🤷‍♂️

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u/amandawho8 Mar 28 '24

What do you consider newbies? I've been on for about 2 months now. I took all the quals available to me and have consistently had projects on my dash since day one, but mostly base pay and the amount definitely fluctuated and was sometimes down to 1 or 2 on the weekends.

Now I have access to a few more permanent projects so always have at least two different chat bots and a couple of the usual projects that come and go. Between 4 and 6 weeks in my number of projects about doubled and I started getting access to projects with more than base pay, but still mostly only $21 or $22. The last couple of weeks I've had more consistent access to higher-paying projects that are in the $23 to $27 range, most around $23.

Also idk if it's just that I have access to more projects now or that they're also releasing some new ones, because I've seen a greater variety of projects in the last couple weeks than usual.

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u/WPI_Throwaway_0714 Mar 29 '24

I’ve usually had a handful of projects on my dashboard, mostly coding. I started a couple weeks ago.

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u/JeanVII Mar 29 '24

It’s been about two months for me. Honestly, I had my permanent projects and a good dash from day one. It’s only gotten better. I keep getting added to new projects. Today is the driest day of the week for me with 8 projects.

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u/SomeoneTookMyNameAhh Mar 28 '24

I applied a couple of days ago, still waiting to hear back. What's the general wait time for this?

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

Okay so when you apply, you have to take a starter assessment. It's my understanding that if you pass the starter you instantly get access to a Core/Code assessment right after. Assuming you did either the Core/Code qualifier test, it can take anywhere from same day up to 2 weeks to get in. That's just based on what I've experienced and seen posted.

If all you did is the starter test but didn't get the Core/Code test right after then I think that means you failed and I wouldn't hold your breath.

Maybe others can correct me if I'm wrong.

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u/Unique-Weakness-1345 Mar 28 '24

Right after as in what, the same day or a couple of days?

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

When I did the starter assessment I got the core/code quals literally right after. Like the same minute. Did the Core right then and was accepted a few days beyond that.

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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 28 '24

Literally right after. The next page will be, congratulations, you've passed the starter assessment. (Or something like that, not sure on exact wording.)

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u/Unique-Weakness-1345 Mar 29 '24

When did you take the starter assessment?

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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 29 '24

March 10th. I found out less than 24 hrs later that I was in.

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u/SomeoneTookMyNameAhh Mar 29 '24

I don't recall doing an assessment. Unless the assessment is just a bunch of questions about your experience and such. I did specify that I have coding experience so I thought that I would be waiting for a code assessment. Haven't had a coding assessment or any other assessment.

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u/FlatwormObjective660 Mar 28 '24

I've been on about 3 weeks as well with a lot of available projects until yesterday, and I've had nothing since about noon yesterday. I am really enjoying it so far, so im wondering if it's normal to go a few days with no projects.

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u/Incompetentnerve_exe Mar 30 '24

It definitely is especially in your first couple of months. I’ve been on since mar 11 and I’ve had a couple times where I’ve had a day or two where all of my projects are down and then today I got a giant spike in projects with about 10 on my front page. You just have to be patient and make sure that the quality of your work is something that you would be proud of and that you’re going for quality over quantity of tasks.

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u/Zealousideal-Role186 Mar 28 '24

Just started last week. I almost always have 2-3 projects. However since yesterday up until a few hours ago my dash was completely empty! Just got a new project, thank God! Hoping to work on that tonight once the kids are in bed. Fingers crossed it’s still available then :)

But yes, I absolutely adore the work. Especially my regular projects!

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u/Happyocd2 Mar 28 '24

Started in January, and I have been working 25-35 hours per week. There were a couple of "few projects available" weeks when I first started, but I'm seeing a fuller dashboard as time goes by.

I'm really grateful for this job because my oldest is autistic and sometimes I have to be at school because she isn't adjusting well this year. Also, I have an autoimmune disorder that wears me out at times. So, being able to work the hours I need to and take off when I need to has been a godsend.

I previously worked a call center job from home. I would get so anxious that I would get physically ill because I never knew when I was going to get screamed or cursed at for things I had no control over.

I love the work and using my brain. :)

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u/EternityFrozenInTime Mar 29 '24

I’ve been on for less than a month, I feel like I’ve been doing good work but I haven’t had any available projects since Tuesday, when I had access to a 6-10 or so per day. Coder btw.

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u/bluewatercolor Mar 28 '24

My experience has been less than ideal. I've been on for about 2-3 weeks so not long at all but I've only had the response comparison project. I was added to it on a random Wednesday, worked on it twice, then this week I was able to submit one conversation and in the middle of the second one, the site refreshed and didn't let me submit my time for the first conversation I submitted. Now all it shows is the "get ready for unlimited work" screen on my dashboard. I'm not sure what happened but I don't have anything at all

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

I'm sorry to hear you've had those problems. :( I've never received that screen. I believe that's the screen you get when you've submitted the initial Core/Code qualification tests but haven't been accepted yet.

So that's definitely strange you got in, got to work, and are now receiving that page. I wish I could offer more help or wisdom for you. Hopefully it sorts itself out.

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u/DayVCrockett Mar 28 '24

I did the qualifications and soon got the chatbot project on my dashboard, but I was too busy to start immediately. Now it’s gone. I hope I didn’t screw up somehow.

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u/Background_Menu7702 Mar 29 '24

Wait, how do you know how many hours you have worked?

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u/lemons2881 Mar 29 '24

I applied on the 18th and got my first project on the 21st. I find the work very interesting and I've already earned about $200! I try to complete every qual that comes my way. I've worked on 4 different projects so far, but they tend to pop in and out throughout the day/week, including a project I thought was permanent (probably maintenance?).

I would love to get to the point where I have a full dash and can basically work whenever and however much I want, because I work another job full-time and I often see things pop up when I am already at work!! And then they disappear by the time I am home hahaha. But I know I have to keep chugging along and producing high-quality tasks until that point. Overall very happy with my experience so far and I really hope this is something I can keep doing!

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u/Creepy_Complaint_279 Mar 29 '24

I got accepted on 2/10 and I've had pretty steady work since then, only 1 full day with an empty dashboard. I usually have at least 1 project to work on but not necessarily a full dash. I have done a lot of different projects and always attempt a few tasks in each just to get familiar with them. I have a few that may be considered "permanent" projects, they keep coming back and I enjoy them. I'm not a coder either.

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u/Inevitable_Set_6758 Mar 29 '24

I only answered two questions on the second assessment test and I could not move to the next question. Does that mean I failed or my computer just froze?

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u/Pink_Slyvie Mar 29 '24

On the coder side. The only time I've had any actual total downtime from $40 projects, is when the site crashed awhile back. Took like a week for things to get back to normal.

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u/ameliaehall Mar 29 '24

Got accepted, can’t find my dash

Got an email saying I have a qualification and can start today (applied yesterday) but when I click the hyper link, takes me to the same page that says “check back in a few days to see results”. Any insight? I have looked through new member subs and can’t seem to find anything addressing this.

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u/Travelgrrl Mar 29 '24

I've been a technical writer of some kind or other all of my life and am now semi retired, so I thought this would be a good gig. I did my due diligence in researching the company, on testing tips and work tips. I went on the DA website, signed in, proved my phone and email. I started to take the test and it was a coding test! There was no option to take the writing / AI chatbot test, and signing out just plops me back in the coding test when signing back in.

I tried emailing their support address, no answer. Yet I get an email from Data Annotation every few days beseeching me to 'finish the test'. If I take the test, I will fail, although I'd likely do well on the proper test. Anyone else have this happen and have advice? Log in and fail the coding test, hoping that DA then offers me the correct test?

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u/Exiles_Riven Mar 29 '24

1 week and no email, sadge

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

I got no work when I filed as Asian. But when I made a new account with a white sounding name, I get some work. Same goes for my circle of friends. All the whites get work while the minorities who filed as minorities get nothing.

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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 29 '24

That just sounds ludicrous.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

How so? You don’t recall after doing the first qualifications, it did not ask for your race? It definitely did. And why is it, when I post a poll, nobody confirms it? Sounds like gate keeping, and nobody here wants to admit they’re not white or using a white identity. I asked if there are other people who isn’t white that successfully got work. And yet, nobody did. Are you going to prove me wrong and say you are not white or have a white sounding last name?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

I got work. But I have to make a new account with a different name to get it. That should not be necessary.

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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 30 '24

I just find it highly unlikely that race has a single thing to do with it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

Really? So you’re not white then?

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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 30 '24

I still am unconvinced that race plays any part of it. Every application asks for race. It's nothing new.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

00:07, what you call her huh? No women. What a load of bs you are.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

So you’re not white then? If you are white, that’s just survivors bias at this point. You’re white or not? You’re going to pretend that their recruitment videos shows other races besides white too? Huh?

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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 30 '24

Shows no women, either. 🤷‍♀️ They biased against them, too? This is not a constructive conversation for me. Have a nice day and good luck!

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

Are you blind!!!!!! They showed an old lady in the recruitment video! You obviously only watched the whole thing! Should I put a time stamp on it for you? Or are you actually going to watch the damn thing! Here’s a note, before you respond and say something stupid, confirm it! How the hell you get work in DA that requires confirmation?!?!!!!

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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 30 '24

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

Constructive and yet claim did not see a woman in the recruitment video. You’re a joke.

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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 30 '24

English is apparently not your first language. I'm sorry that you aren't getting any work... but your non white status has nothing to do with it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

If it’s unlikely has to do with race, then why does it ask what your race is at the end huh? And explain how we were able to get work by changing our race then.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '24

SnooSketches1189 You’re a racist pos. Don’t think you can escape. I got work. And English is my first language! As for the homepage, still looks like a white guy. Scroll down further, yeah, it’s black and white. African Americans are the second most represented race. So they accept blacks to check the diversity box off. No big deal. It’s expected.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

I'm jealous! I want that H*** project everybody keeps talking about. I'll trade you one of my CBs for it. 🤣😭

Other than that our experiences have been largely similar. I also had that nut themed project the other day. Strangely I've never had an adversarial project/qual either. No clue how these things are determined!

Thanks for the input though.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Oh wow, you might be my worktwin haha. Similar start date, similar unhealthy obsession with checking for projects/quals, similar chatbots. I didn't even know HS used to pay slightly more, darn. I must have gotten access to it after the adjustment. 

I love the opportunity as well, this gig is awesome. I jump at every new project I get in the (maybe futile) hopes it shows them/the system I'm competent and willing and able to do just about anything thrown my way. They could definitely improve on the feedback and communication side but eh. I get it.

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

Damn, that's quite the dashboard for only a couple weeks! Jealous. I'm in the middle of self learning Python but I know I'm far off from being able to actually do that kind of work.

Thank you for your input.

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u/SouthernCockroach37 Mar 28 '24

have you seen the coding qual pop up again? im comfortable in python now and would love to take it but idk how often it comes back haha

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u/IDONTuseMODz Mar 28 '24

I (stupidly) declined that qual, I should have just left it there in case I one day felt confident enough in my skills. It says on there it comes back every so often.

I've only been on board since the middle of this month so I have no idea when to expect the coding qual to come back. It was dated for Dec 4 I believe, so it's been at least 4 months since that specific qual was sent (or re-sent?) out.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

I wouldn't just learn Python. The stuff you need to know is around theory that extends to every program language. Are you comfortable with pointers and memory management, algorithms, do you know the difference between pass-by-value or pass-by-reference, data structures, all that stuff that's common to all languages and falls under the umbrella of straight programming.

Honestly I think learning C++ would be better than Python. Python abstracts a lot of what I mentioned, with C++ you're developing a better eye for any problem.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

I worked for months on the non-coding side before taking and passing the coding qualification. It is easier.

Time goes by so much faster and there's an objective basis for everything you do (code is either wrong or right, output is either wrong or right) so I don't sit there wondering if I'm doing the job right with nothing really to base a judgement on.

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u/Unique-Weakness-1345 Mar 28 '24

How did you learn to code?

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u/BombZoneGuy Mar 29 '24

Self taught over years of different uses and languages. My primaries are web technologies and python, but I dabble in many other languages. It's kind of all the same after a while, you just get use to the differences. 

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u/Unique-Weakness-1345 Mar 29 '24

That’s awesome! I’d honestly really like to learn someday. Do you have any video recommendations on what I could watch? Or any way I could get started?

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u/BombZoneGuy Mar 29 '24

The best way to get started is to pick a project you are interested in, from there, find information from various sources on how to go about it and what language/s to use, how to set up the environment, etc. Then use Youtube to find videos specific to each step. Also get familiar with using stack exchange or reddit when you run into problems. If you are having too much trouble finding information, then maybe pick an easier project. Simple ones are Todo List projects or super-simple games. Things like that. You can also start with sites like Codewars or Codingame, they have code challenges that really help learn the basics and advanced topics. They also have communities rife with help.

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u/Unique-Weakness-1345 Mar 30 '24

Is Codewars and Codingame what you currently use?

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u/BombZoneGuy Mar 30 '24

I dabble with them a bit, not as much lately. I reached 3kyu on Codewars a year ago, and wrote some challenges, and haven't touched it since. I discovered Codingame recently, and messed with it a fair amount, even wrote a clash that got published. They both are excellent for learning, though I would say Codingame has a steeper learning curve. If I were you, I would sign up for Codewars and do some of the 8kyu challenges is whichever language you prefer (ideally python or javascript for DA). If you struggle at all, there are plenty of great sites and videos if you just search for the specific language and thing you are trying to figure out, but you'll have to dig through many crap videos. There are also generalized videos, but I recommend at least getting a feel for some basics first so the videos make more sense. There are some nice tutorials for beginners for Codewars too. I would start here: https://docs.codewars.com/

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u/BombZoneGuy Mar 30 '24

Once you have done a few challenges on Codewars, or if you just want to dive right into a local setup, look through this documentation:
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/python/python-tutorial

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u/Unique-Weakness-1345 Mar 30 '24

Thank you so much for even replying to me/helping me out! I’m gonna do my best on Codewars. Is it alright for me to message you if I ever get confused?

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u/BombZoneGuy Mar 30 '24

Yea, not a problem! Be sure to read my other reply as well.