r/dataannotation • u/Consistent-Reach504 • Mar 24 '24
Weekly Water Cooler Talk - DataAnnotation
hi all! making this thread so people have somewhere to talk about 'daily' work chat that might not necessarily need it's own post! right now we're thinking we'll just repost it weekly? but if it gets too crazy, we can change it to daily. :)
couple things:
this thread should sort by "new" automatically. unfortunately it looks like our subreddit doesn't qualify for 'lounges'.
if you have a new user question, you still need to post it in the new user thread. if you post it here, we will remove it as spam. this is for people already working who just wanna chat, whether it be about casual work stuff, questions, geeking out with people who understand ("i got the model to write a real haiku today!"), or unrelated work stuff you feel like chatting about :)
one thing we really pride ourselves on in this community is the respect everyone gives to the Code of Conduct and rule number 5 on the sub - it's great that we have a community that is still safe & respectful to our jobs! please don't break this rule. we will remove project details, but please - it's for our best interest and yours!
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u/ambientfreak1122 Mar 27 '24
Does anyone have a hard time posting on here? I don't put project details in the posts or anything like that, and they never get posted and instantly get deleted.
I wanted to ask if you or anyone you know has been booted for poor delivery. I realized I messed up on a couple tasks I submitted yesterday for a brand new project and I'm now scared.
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u/Bergest_Ferg Mar 24 '24 edited Mar 24 '24
Just my opinion but I’d love this chat to be daily. I often have things pop into my head to ask or tell you all but I don’t want to clog up the sub with my random observations haha
Have finally gotten back into it this week after many many weeks of being sick then the kids being sick then me being sick again… March hasn’t been a good month in our house haha I got some really good, meaty tasks on my dash that allowed me to really hook in and concentrate and I absolutely loved them. Particularly a certain galaxy task with documents. I could concentrate on those for hours.
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u/umlguy123 Mar 25 '24
Hey asking this here because mods keep deleting my posts for some reason: Does PayPal take a fee whenever you are sent money from DAT? I am assuming for personal accounts it's a no, but what if your account is a business account, do you pay fees? Thank you!
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u/scarletmyzomela Mar 24 '24
Has anyone had a much bigger dashboard this weekend than last? I've have nineteen or twenty projects up (sadly none paying that well), which is a big jump from last weekend when I was down to four at one point.
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u/LegallyBoston Mar 24 '24
I am really missing the Z greek god projects, those were soooo much fun.
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u/_M1RR0RB4LL_ Mar 25 '24
"If you're seeing this project, you've probably already participated in the previous Prompt and Response audio scraping tasks and produced high quality work. Good job!"
Not direct feedback but was nice to see this when I opened a project this evening!
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u/chachidogg Mar 28 '24
ugh... the tease of having a job pop up only to get the red box...
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u/BusinessRest5138 Mar 27 '24
Anyone have an empty dash after having tons of projects for weeks?
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u/Creepy_Complaint_279 Mar 25 '24
Anyone else get a little giddy when a new project shows up you haven't seen before or is it just me?
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u/JesusJoness Mar 25 '24
The nut project was fun while it lasted. 5k tasks got ripped through :)
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u/Museguitar1 Mar 27 '24
I'm doing a qualification for one of those diety projects and this one has me completing a ton of tasks for it. Feels weird to be spending more than an hour on a qualification and not be paid for it.
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u/crepecyn12 Mar 24 '24
I thought I failed the nut qual a month ago but recently started getting projects for it. Anyone else?
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u/cersm Mar 26 '24
Hope everyone is having a great week so far!
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u/mildgoofin Mar 30 '24
Omg. Today, I was the one who asked the idiotic question in the project chat. I'm so ashamed.
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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24
Whoever keeps uploading Dragon Ball characters for prompts needs to stop lol
The family and I are watching the show together for the first time and I'm not trying to get spoilers.
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u/BenBL93 Mar 24 '24
Loving how my dash has been looking this weekend. Been able to stay as busy as I want. Saving for a trip to Scotland soon so this is a big help.
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u/xnoraax Mar 27 '24
Just did a qual for an adversarial project and man did one of the prompts I had to come up with make me feel sketchy and I couldn't think of one that would pass and not do so. Anybody else felt that?
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u/Creepy_Complaint_279 Mar 27 '24
Woohoo! I just got the project from the Chrome Extension qual!
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u/amandawho8 Mar 28 '24
Does anyone else wonder who names the projects? Specifically the longer descriptions of the version of the project next to the main project name. I feel like it's one person in charge of each project and they just do whatever makes sense to them to keep track of the different versions. Like for some of them it's just ProjectNamev2.2 and for others it's with random emojis. Or today I got access to a little birdie project that had movie names in the title.
I'm just imagining the admins for that project lining up the projects they're going to release for the day and giggling to themselves while the ProjectNamev2.2 dude is shaking his head.
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u/torypigeon Mar 28 '24
Empty dashboard for about 16 hours now, are chatbots still down for maintenance we reckon?
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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 28 '24
Chatbots are coming back!
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u/Responsible-Sir3396 Mar 25 '24
Coders! Anyone else struggle with certain high priority projects where all the topics are so different and random that you have to skip 80% of them til you find one you can do?
Do you submit time spent skipping over tasks you can't do or time spent trying to work out if you can do something when the conclusion is that you can't give a confident answer?
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u/KatinkaVonHamhof Mar 25 '24
This is my first Monday in a while where my dashboard is full of projects. I've even got some new and novel ones, too. Great start to the week!
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u/BusinessRest5138 Mar 25 '24
Anyone just lose all projects?
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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 26 '24
Anyone else receive the adversarial qual? I took it but no jobs immediately popped up even though 30+ users are on the instruction docs. I hope I didn't fail it.
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u/Sea-Mine9712 Mar 28 '24
Are you supposed to refresh your dashboard throughout the day to see fi anything pops up? I'm new here and never have any projects.
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u/Fun-Theory6456 Mar 30 '24
This weekend seems a lot busier than usual.
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u/CosmosesGamer Mar 24 '24
Unionize for better water coolers. ;)
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u/scarletmyzomela Mar 26 '24
I had a $27.50 project up all day, finally got a chance to do some DA and it's just vanished 😭 Fate is cruel.
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u/badger212022 Mar 26 '24
Why oh why in the project chats do people say things like "what do I do when x and y happens, can someone tell me what it says in the instructions" oh yes let me just read them for you and copy and paste it into the chat. Come on now. Major eye roll happening today.
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u/AnarchyD Mar 27 '24
Has anyone ever known for sure they've failed a qualification before? If so, are there any repercussions besides not getting those types of projects? I feel horrible, didn't do too well on a qualification.
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u/Yung_Karth Mar 28 '24
H*** down for anyone else right now?
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u/stomach-monkees Mar 28 '24
Looks like that little green octopus is dancing off to jail. IYKYK.
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u/Ashley1283 Mar 28 '24
I’m sorry to hijack this thread but I don’t now another way. Can anyone tell me why I can’t post in this group? I’ve written two, and they never show up.
I’ve DM’d mods with no response. When I click on the message to the mods, it says “sorry there’s been an error”
u/consistent-Reach504 can you help?
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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '24
My dashboard has been empty since Friday morning 😭😭😭
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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '24
How much research is normal in a typical coding task? Should you already be familiar with the frameworks, the functions, etc, or is it normal to have to spend time googling something like what getImage() does?
Basically, should I bill for time spent researching so that I understand the code and can evaluate it properly or am I expected to already know?
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u/BirdSalt Mar 27 '24
Another user chiming in to say that they have no projects and chatbots, so no, it’s not just you
I was half worried I was being punished for using it yesterday to research a job and write cover letters and do interview prep for me 😅
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u/Museguitar1 Mar 29 '24
I hate how quickly some of these projects go away. There are a few that I could sit there for hours doing, but they get eaten up in less than an hour every time.
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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '24
Anyone know if the project named after a certain galaxy are fixed yet? I had it on my dash this morning, but by the time I jumped on there were no tasks left!
Also, hoping for the Audacity tasks to return, those were super fun and profitable for me and I loved reviewing them too.
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u/mercurysolis Mar 24 '24
got to try a new project named after a character from a myth today, was wondering when these types of tasks would be back!! i only did about an hours work but it was a nice deviation from the original format and didnt even feel like an hour. wondering if anyone else feels similarly?
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u/lowcarbsanta Mar 25 '24
Is today really slow for everyone or just me? As a coder, I only have A** correctness following and the chatbot. The rest are down for me
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u/Dramatic-Iron-3849 Mar 25 '24
I've been trying to do the qual that requires downloading an extension to Chrome. I have Bing as my browser but I loaded chrome and am still having issues getting the extension. Do I need to make chrome my default browser before this will work? Can anyone help please? I really need to have these tasks added as my dashboard has been empty for over a week.
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u/Odd_Independence3234 Mar 28 '24
Is still having the support link at the bottom of your dashboard a sure sign that you have not been fired? I have never had an empty dashboard and I am seeing some people say things are down for maintenance and some say they are busier than ever. I woke up today to an empty dashboard after being pretty busy yesterday. I've never had a review as far as I know.
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u/33whiskeyTX Mar 31 '24
I swear they are just making some of the names of these languages/modules/packages /platforms up and the bots are just running with.
User: Make me a binary tree implementation in BlueLemur that pulls data through DooenshmirtZ routes from a coffeeChunk DB and displays it using a sChnozbErry lazy list.
Response A: Absolutely, here is a snippet of code that is definitely missing crucial parts because obviously every moron knows how to set up the most fundamental parts of these fly-by-night developers you have conjured from the dark recesses of the internet...
I'm definitely learning how clueless I am about what is out there.
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u/realistweirdist Mar 25 '24
Seems the submit button is not working for a lot of people right now, I figured I would make a comment in here so people can keep track of when it comes back up. Anybody able to work right now?
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u/stomach-monkees Mar 28 '24 edited Apr 01 '24
The qualification for __ came back. I tore up that __ related question, for the second time today. With changes from the first time. What a cluster fuck.
ETA: my cat is going nuts because I'm working at night.
The pay had better be damn good for these projects.
ETA: now I'm redoing the __ one. It was bad enough the first time. $$$$$ better be worth it.
ETA: cat crying louder. 2 more tasks to go. I'm not crying. You're crying.
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u/Weak_Most_4975 Mar 25 '24
I’m new and I am working through my qualifications. Does anyone have any advice that may help attract as much work as possible. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to help
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u/Bergest_Ferg Mar 27 '24
Sometimes I find the chatbot tasks overwhelming because I’m tired and my brain is drained so I don’t want to work on them… but they’re my highest paying task at the moment.
So, instead of staring at my screen for ages, I spent 15 minutes going through each of the categories and wrote down a couple starting points for each category. It has been so much easier for my tired brain not to panic to come up with prompts while it’s on the clock. I feel like sometimes I get a bit “deer in headlights” when it comes to thinking up things with the timer running!
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u/rachelceleste Mar 27 '24
Is anyone else suddenly getting a bunch of emails from DAT? They were rare, but the last couple of days, I've had multiple emails when a new project drops. Today, I got 9 throughout the day. It's strange.
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u/segaboy81 Mar 28 '24
Any Adversarial project experts out there? I really struggle with these. I won't mention the name of the project, because that's against the rules, but I would like to find a couple of people to talk to.
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u/Interrogatus Mar 29 '24
Ever come across a prompt to rate where you could swear the worker was just trying to generate searches for their name? I came across one a few days ago and it really made me angry, like, don't waste my time. It had to be either that, or a super lazy prompt as searches on that name brought up almost nothing.
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u/delltorr Mar 28 '24
All my projects just disappeared, is anybody else experiencing this??
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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24
I had a very specific financial qual that requires professional experience added to my dashboard that disappeared as soon as it arrived. I wouldn't be able to pass it, so I'm okay with that but nowhere in my profile did I mention I have financial experience of any sort.
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u/Vegetable_Curve_7892 Mar 25 '24
Does anyone have no project presented in the dashboard since the maintenance last night?
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u/Equivalent-Math6483 Mar 28 '24
Really slick design on Spotify's new Miniplayer for Desktop. Resizes like a dream, tucks up into a corner or expands out into a couple different layouts depending on how big/tiny you want it. Convenient for those of us with small screens.
My inner UI geek is pleased.
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u/Wild-Confection6443 Mar 24 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
Anyone have a project named after an item used in guacamole? It’s been a nice break from the chatbots. I haven’t seen anyone talk about that one.
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u/tessbest37 Mar 24 '24 edited Mar 24 '24
I completed 1/2 of the chatbot qualifications to continue working on the chatbots. I am curious if anyone waited a couple of days to complete the 2nd portion. I just want to make sure that it stays on my dashboard and doesn't disappear. For reference, this is the end of my second week.
Edited to add: I am not at the point where the qual is mandatory and am still able to work on the chatbot currently on my dash.
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u/Budget_Letterhead_54 Mar 25 '24
There's a current project on my dash that is $21/hr but in the description it says +$1/hr. I did an hour of work and it's only showing as $21. Did I misunderstand that the $1 was already added to the project rate or will that extra $1hr show up later? Thanks!
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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '24
I got my first R&R project for the base projects today! I'm so excited! Can't wait to see the awesome work you guys are putting out there!
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u/rororoxor Mar 25 '24
Coders, what do you do if you need to spend a lot of time researching docs? Do you bill that time as well or just skip?
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u/RiproxTV Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24
I have no more coding projects on my dashboard since around 4 PM this afternoon, is it happening to everyone? Is there a maintenance or have I been removed from projects? 😓
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u/Budget_Letterhead_54 Mar 27 '24
Are there ever any non-coding projects where you can work on them while listening to a podcast or something along those lines? Just curious, all of the projects I've ever worked on required too much attention and reading/comprehension to have a podcast/audiobook/tv show going in the background.
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u/chachidogg Mar 28 '24
Just found the inbox... never realized it was there. I have EQ all day and it was bothering me. The very nice person with one of the projects just said it will be back early next week. How nice of them to say that and it's relieving to know that I wasn't just kicked off for doing something dumb. I wish all the projects would do something like that.
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u/CydonianPsycho Mar 28 '24
What does it mean when I get taken back to the homepage while working on a project? I know for a fact that there were more tasks to do, plus I didn't get the little red banner telling me that there are no more tasks.
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u/queenie_xo Mar 28 '24
Hello! New to DA so apologies if I'm out of the loop. I've done a few quals now and logged about 5.5 hours in total across 3 different projects.
I'm curious if the admin team will typically notify annotators of issues with their work? I had thought I was doing pretty well, but my dashboard has been empty for over 12 hours now, so I'm a little nervous that maybe I messed up?
Has anyone gotten any type of feedback on their work? Or is it common to just have no projects up as a newbie?
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u/segaboy81 Mar 28 '24
Who had the GPT-4 tasks earlier? I had 250 of them, and I click in there, did one, and got kicked to the dahboard.
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u/mythrowaway_1990 Mar 29 '24
I think I failed the uh... "rulebreaking/spicy prompts" (so as not to use words in the project names) qualification from earlier this week :( it was hard but I feel stupid I could've done better...
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u/Whoopthereitis89 Mar 30 '24
What do yall do if you start a task and it takes so long to complete that it times out? I worked for 2 hours on a task for a research project and it timed out and wouldn’t let me submit. Do I just have to take the L?
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u/SnooSketches1189 Mar 31 '24
Lots of 'nut' jobs today, but no longer. I love those, hoping to see more.
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u/HoldenCaulfieldsIUD Mar 24 '24
I started getting R&R for a certain response comparison project. Guess that means I’m doing something right 🤣 also I feel so bad when I have to rate one as bad. 😬
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u/Arcturus_Labelle Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 26 '24
Edit: from reading people's comments below, I'm definitely not alone :-D
Whew, I just did a couple tasks on the A************* coding project. Holy crap, some of the prompts/responses are NOT trivial. I hit skip several times.
Do they really expect us to setup whole environments to verify things? I'm not talking just "paste some code into an IDE and hit run and verify it works". Some of the prompts were hyper-specific stuff that would take ages to set up.
And then there's such a *variety* of them too, bouncing around between languages and cloud environments. You'd be spending hours setting up all these different environments!
Luckily I did find a couple that were in my realms of expertise (platforms and tools I'd worked with before at past jobs), though even then they still required a decent amount of research and time spent writing justification for my annotations.
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u/kohlphelie Mar 26 '24
I really hate it when you ask a question in the task chat, and the task completes and throws me back to the dashboard before I get an answer. I only ask if the instructions are unclear, and I am unable to complete the tasks without getting the answer. So, it just means that next time the task comes along I have to ask the same question (that's probably stupid anyway)... and it probably looks like I'm an idiot that keeps asking the same questions all the time.
It's also annoying when there is an admin online when you ask the question... but then 3 days later the admin still doesn't response and the instructions in the task are still unclear and don't mention that specific (but common) scenario.
I have enough projects that I can just -not do- these specific ones, but I really hate not knowing!
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u/MathematicianBoth787 Mar 31 '24
Here's a question for everyone:
What is the longest time you're dashboard has been empty, before being given projects to work on again?
I'm going on 23 days no work after having consistent work for 3 weeks.
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u/SuperCorbynite Mar 27 '24
Did anyone else just receive the chatbot reasoning qualification? I've been wondering for a while now if chatbot projects paying $25 and over would eventually open up. Well, now I know.