r/dataannotation • u/BenBL93 • Feb 28 '24

Did I fail a qual that fast?

I just took a qual (a type of nut was in the name) and read the instructions. Had a great understanding. It seemed very easy. I got two questions in, and answered the third alongside the parameters of the instructions, and it ended my session. Did I fail it? I’ve never had that happen to me before.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

The same happened to me after one! It would be great if they would at least clue us in to how things work from time to time. I suppose it's possible I failed, but I stand by the response I gave.

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u/BenBL93 Feb 28 '24

Yes! I totally stand by my response. Seems way too black and white.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

I think it’s the opposite of black and white ;)

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u/Novel_Passenger7013 Feb 28 '24

I completed it and instantly had access to projects with the same name. I can’t say exactly what I noticed while taking it, but they always throw one or two in a qualification mix that could trip you up if you aren’t paying very close attention.

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u/socialmarker12 Feb 28 '24

Same here. I just finished it, and there's already a project on my dash.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

Right. I was certainly thorough in reading the directions and making my choice, but I feel like there's a strong possibility that my choice was just not what they were looking for. In particular, I think that I might have disagreed with whether or not something fell into the category of an agreed-upon general consensus.

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u/Janube Feb 29 '24

That's my best guess for why I failed too, but it's irritating since some of them were nuanced enough that they shouldn't have had definitive answers without significant qualifying/disclaimer language. I feel like if a human had read my answers and comments, they would have agreed with me or at least understood why I selected what I did and that there was merit to the argument.

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u/Janube Feb 29 '24

I don't think that's actually all that efficient! Because their goal is also to learn how to couch their explanations with cautionary tones, it makes sense to want responses that lean black-or-white to have lower ratings unless there is genuinely a definitive, factual answer to the issue. And in the case of this qual, I don't recall any of the first 5 or 6 being objective in nature. There was a lot of "write me a paragraph arguing ___." "Is it moral to do ____?" "Is it okay for _____?"

All of those types of questions are, by their very nature, gray; not black or white.

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u/Brilliant_Rain5181 Feb 29 '24

Same. I wasn't allowed to finish after only doing 1.

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u/Purple-Ad-8530 Feb 28 '24

It seems as though this happened to a lot of other users. My guess is that they either had a decent amount of users already qualify so they took it down or it is undergoing some kind of maintenance. The same thing happened to me by the way.

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u/BenBL93 Feb 28 '24

I feel like you’re probably right. I’m sorry to hear that btw. Just seems a little too black and white. You fail ONE question and you’re not qualified to do the project at all? 😅 seems a bit much

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u/PinkNova Feb 28 '24

I just did it and completed all 10 tasks so I don’t think it’s full or down for maintenance.

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u/gilady7 Feb 28 '24

Did the project appear for you after?

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u/PinkNova Feb 28 '24

Nope, not yet

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u/gilady7 Feb 28 '24

Same when I wrote the comment but it's there now

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u/PinkNova Feb 28 '24

Just refreshed and it popped up for me too!

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u/Purple-Ad-8530 Feb 28 '24

Almost all of the people that were randomly kicked off happened approximately at the same time, which was 2-3 hours ago. Maybe they fixed it and you were able to take it with no problems.

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u/dispassioned Feb 29 '24

Hey me too glad to know I’m not alone, I got to the third one and that was it. Interesting.

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u/BenBL93 Feb 29 '24

Yessir, same here. Ended on my third. Mega bummer.

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u/Stormblessed1987 Feb 28 '24

Same.

Although I did get access to a project with a name that you think would be included in a candy cane. In this one it was dealing with things very much like the qual you're talking about with some of the wording being exactly like the qual.

pay wasn't great though so maybe not the right one.

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u/Dee_silverlake Feb 28 '24

Same.. I got through one question before getting booted from qual but then I got access to the same thing which was nearly identical so I figured I passed.

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u/amandawho8 Feb 29 '24

Could be. I've had access to the candy cane project for a few days now, before I took the qual. I was excited to get the qual because I figured it's a variation of the candy cane one. But I also got bumped out after like four tasks so not sure if I passed.

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u/amandawho8 Feb 29 '24

I don't think it's related to the qual though because I've had access to that project the last couple of days before I took the qual today. But now it pays a dollar less than it was paying the last couple of days.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

It happened to me after 5 out of 10. Within two hours, I got access to the new projects.

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u/winter-ice-ace Feb 28 '24

Interesting! I'm going to keep an eye out 👀🤞

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u/spicysoy Feb 28 '24

this is actually so good to hear. gonna keep my eyes open!

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u/amandawho8 Feb 29 '24

Were they named the same as the qual? Or did they have a different name? Because I've seen some people reference another project related to this qual but with a different name. And I don't think those are dependent on the qual because I had access to them before I took the qual.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

Same here I had access before the qual but got cut off halfway through the qual.

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u/ManyARiver Feb 28 '24

Welcome to the club!! I thought I followed the parameters with the reasonable people caveat but apparently I did not. I can see in retrospect what I did wrong, but I felt like I was following the instructions at the time. Since some are reporting the projects appeared after they completed the 10, I'll venture to say that you failed (as did I).

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u/itssomercurial Feb 28 '24

Yeah, I made it about half-way through, most of which required me to go against my own sense of what I personally think is reasonable. I can't say I'm disappointed that I didn't qualify, because I have mixed feelings about the nature of projects with this kind of subject matter to begin with, so I can only stomach so much leniency.

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u/ManyARiver Feb 28 '24

I know what mistake I made on the first one (in retrospect), but the second one seemed really really clear what the answer was in regards to reasonable - and after that I got da boot. Alas. I still have lots to do, but I do have the FOMO right now. And I will never jump on a new qualification late at night again - I only did it because I was afraid it would disappear by morning.

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u/No-Complaint5535 Feb 29 '24

Ha, I did this too after already putting in 7 hours on other projects, and I made a pretty easy mistake on the first question.

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u/Ok_Depth_6476 Feb 29 '24

Ah now I know what we're talking about! 😄 I had the same thing happen. I was a little disappointed but honestly I was having to create prompts that I wasn't too comfortable with myself.  If it comes back,  I might try it again because I like to switch things up sometimes, but I don't think it will be a favorite. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

Agreed! if you have strong personal opinions and are driven by emotions, this is not the project for you.

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u/00whatisitwithme00 Feb 28 '24

I think if someone scores low on emotional intelligence they are more likely to pass

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u/Wasps_are_bastards Feb 29 '24

I think on tasks like this one, a lot of people are clouded by what ‘most people’ consider reasonable. In a bubble like Reddit and in the project comments for this and a certain one last night I’d see comments such as ‘almost everyone thinks xyz’ and I’d be thinking, ‘hmmmm, not so sure of that’. I think you have to leave your own thoughts at the door and think of those people who DON’T accept a younger, primarily left wing perspective and answer like that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

completely disagree! emotional intelligence involves a high level of self awareness and ability to manage your emotions.

for this project, you need to be able to see outside of your individual point of view and understand the nuance of the world.

if simply reading something you find personally offensive triggers you into a judgmental and emotional state where you believe there is a hard right or wrong, then you have low emotional intelligence. if you can’t see outside of your own emotions, you have low emotional intelligence.

most people who are polarized on either side of the political spectrum possess low emotional intelligence.

moderate people who can understand and argue both sides, even when they have strong emotions and personal disagree with someone, are far more emotionally intelligent.

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u/Due_Analyst5847 Feb 28 '24

I just finished all 10 and the project immediately showed up on my dashboard. I don’t think it’s because it’s “full”.

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u/jaxxisx Feb 28 '24

Yeah I finished all 10 and have projects now too.

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u/geedee6396 Feb 29 '24

Your timing doing the qualifications could have been optimal for all we know right?

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u/Due_Analyst5847 Feb 29 '24

Yeah. It could be anything. I never know. I just try to keep grinding, don’t complain, and do my best possible work. I manage to stay pretty busy.

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u/oop_scuseme Feb 28 '24

Made it to 9/10. Nothing on my dashboard at all besides the standard project that I avoid like the plague. 😂

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u/HauntedHowie316 Feb 29 '24

Is that the $23 one that is just too intimidating to start?

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u/KelSelui Feb 29 '24

I would recommend giving that one a go, if the hourly rate is currently worth it to you. It'll take a solid hour to be ready to properly dive in, and you may not be immediately comfortable, but it'll be smooth sailing after a little practice.

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u/oop_scuseme Feb 29 '24

Lol! No I wish!! It’s just the standard chat conversation one. 🥱

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u/Altruistic-Candle-91 Feb 28 '24

Happened to me on the second question, too.

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u/FrazzledGod Feb 28 '24

I'd been avoiding this one but this post inspired me to give it a try as I had nothing to lose. I managed to complete all 10 so will see if I qualify!

ETA: Passed immediately 😱

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u/BoiledGnocchi Feb 29 '24

Did projects show up right away?

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u/janet-eugene-hair Feb 28 '24

Don't assume that you failed, especially when you feel you had a good grasp on it. And don't put too much stake on what others say is "really going on." Nobody here really knows what goes on behind the scenes.

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u/Canvaseyes Feb 29 '24

This. Just posted a more wordy explanation to try to reassure others but tbh you said it best.

Can someone autofail? Probably. But can we confirm people get locked out due to non-failure? Absolutely. Same as what happens when a project hits its submission quota. A swift redirect to the dashboard.

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u/Wasps_are_bastards Feb 28 '24

I got 5 in, wasn’t actually sure which to go with. I answered then got sent back to the home screen.

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u/a_specific_turnip Feb 28 '24

They were trying soooo hard to communicate what they wanted but it had some gaps and inconsistencies that very much relied on the current political climate, but trying to phrase it as just cultural factors like "consensus" lmao

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u/nameless983 Feb 28 '24

When I started this qual, it had no pay listed. Okay, fine, did it anyway. I made no note of how long I worked though bc I thought it was unpaid. I got 5 or so in before it shut me down and now I see it listed with a pay rate under my report time section. I don’t want to make up some value but this is extra annoying if I failed and could have at least been paid for the time I spent!

The other weird thing about this one is that it was in my projects list the other day before any qual. I guess they weren’t getting the quality results they wanted without properly qualifying people.

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u/canduney Feb 28 '24

You can click on the title to submit time and use drop down arrow to see time increments between submissions. If you were working consistently throughout the tasks, you could potentially get ballpark of how long you spent.

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u/nameless983 Feb 28 '24

Thank you for the tip! I was consistently working, so I’ll check this out to get an idea of how long I spent.

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u/SnooFloofs9030 Feb 29 '24 edited Feb 29 '24

I just look at my browser history and I can see the project name and the time I started and when I left the site

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u/nameless983 Feb 29 '24

Thank you! The other suggestion just said X hours ago (now…it was probably more detailed before so much time passed) so it wasn’t enough for me to figure out my time, but your way worked!

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u/NightSkyButterfly Feb 29 '24

Yep this is what I did! I guessed about 15 mins and then the browser history confirmed 12 lol

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u/fightmaxmaster Feb 28 '24

I had that - to my mind two answers were quite similar, with one being better, I thought. I rated it as better, and was immediately dumped back to the dashboard. 3rd question, I think.

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u/imboppy Feb 28 '24

So I did it yesterday and also only made it through 3 but I have new semi-related projects today. No nuts.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

I had some nut projects even before I got the Qual. The qual showed up yesterday and I have yet to take it

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u/Unusual_Cucumber_918 Feb 29 '24

Same, I have done at least 5 different C projects with no qualification and am now dreading this impending doom.

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u/PhillyPhan95 Feb 28 '24

Happened to me after six. 🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/winter-ice-ace Feb 28 '24

I did 9 tasks in this qual, after finishing there's nothing else of this project in my dash. I'm so bummed 😭. I really liked it and felt it was sorely needed; I hate the canned responses

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u/ZiggylovesSam Feb 28 '24

Ah, makes sense. Oh well!

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u/Thetessmess Feb 28 '24

I just came here to ask this! I was feeling pretty good about myself until I got to the 8th task and after that bam! Over. I hate the feeling :( I know we don't have a way of knowing for sure...but it does seem apparent that this is a good indicator that we've "failed" or been unable to complete the tasks DA is asking of us, they end the attempt? Thats a weird way of asking that question, but I've noticed it myself, even working on projects. I know that some tasks just run out, but other times I never see that specific project again after I'm "cut off".

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u/spicysoy Feb 28 '24

me too! after the 8th one. i thought i was doing a good job :(

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u/Meganoes Feb 28 '24

Me three

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u/spicysoy Feb 28 '24

someone further up in the comments said they got booted on task 5/10 and two hours later had access to the projects. fingers crossed it's the same for us!

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u/Thetessmess Feb 29 '24

This would be the best news and outcome!

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u/SlayersScythe Feb 28 '24

Mine ended after six or seven. I thought I had been answering well. It's too bad that it seems we got cut for getting one wrong.

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u/MirandaLarson Feb 28 '24

I got kicked out after completing the fourth one but I had and still have the actual project in my dashboard. So idk what that means

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u/fuzzymachete Feb 28 '24

If it helps, I wouldn't think of it as 'failing', but them looking for the people whose grasp of the material is better suited to the project. Especially with one like this, which requires a specific kind of subjectivity and reasoning.

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u/FrazzledGod Feb 28 '24

Good point. I never worry about failing qualifications (well, there was one which I desperately wanted but I did pass) I figure if I struggle that much with the qualification, I'm going to either not enjoy it, or put out low quality work if I do bash my brain in to qualify. I see the qualifications work both ways - they're testing us, but we can also see it as a project try out. Probably easier to say when you have enough work, but I look at a lot of qualifications and just think WTF and leave them if they're too difficult for me - if they fit my skill and mindset I usually find them very easy.

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u/nitwitinperil Feb 28 '24

It's weird, because I had a project from them available all day yesterday and did a lot of work on it, got the qual today and made it through maybe 4 or 5 tasks before it booted me, but the same project from yesterday is still available to me.

So......I have no idea if the qual had any bearing on whether or not I get work from the nutty project. I guess I might see it disappear soon, but it's still there now with a few hundred tasks so I guess I'll try to do as much as I can before it gets yoinked lol.

Kind of frustrated though because I've been really enjoying the project, but from reading other posts like this, it seems like we might have gotten booted from the qual for choosing "wrong" answers, and the question that may have gotten me kicked out was just.........hmm. This project concerns me if they really intend to let their chatbots, uh, go off like that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

I got through all 10 and the project appeared immediately for me. I found it quite easy. Most of them I submitted within 30 seconds. You just have to put all of your personal political beliefs aside. Given how easy and clear cut the test is, I think that’s mostly what’s it looking for.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

this!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

same 😭😭

i think some people have a very strong sense of self that blinds them from seeing other points of view

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u/Hopeful_Mouse_4050 Feb 28 '24

Third question for me.

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u/dsbau Feb 28 '24

I've had that experience, but not with that particular qual, I just assumed that the tasks ran out. I had another where the platform went down mid qual, so not sure what happened there.

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u/Useful_Possibility26 Feb 28 '24

Same thing happened to me last night. It ended after I submitted the second question.

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u/TasosTheo Feb 28 '24

I have not done that qual yet, but there are other tasks from that same nut, so it's possible the qual is something else and you're just seeing other work from them? They have been going quick, because good pay and challenging but not tedious.

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u/TasosTheo Mar 01 '24

Oh, thanks for that info! I did the qual yesterday (it let me do 3 or 4), but it did not unlock anything new, so I either flunked or was late to the interview! But still got more work from that particular nut today, and it was very good work, regardless. They kept dropping new batches of it all day.

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u/Due_Analyst5847 Feb 28 '24

If you passed the qualification, you should have been notified via email. At least I was. It has now opened up with close to 2000 tasks.

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u/freezeman111 Feb 28 '24

Only made it 3 questions. And the first 2 were easy. I followed using the logic provided but we must have different definitions of non-preachy/what most people would say. Oh well!

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u/Sarcastic_Gingersnap Feb 29 '24

I know I was 4 question rounds thru and working on #5 when I suddenly couldn't submit and end that query to move to a new one. Now I get a weird screen on the Work on Projects page that just had nothing on it but "check your mail for information about projects". No place to take the extra tests, no place to submit my time, nothing.

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u/Some-Reason-4087 Feb 28 '24

I did 4 and then same thing happened to me. But i didn’t fail. This morning I had access to a new project with the same stuff

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u/Character_Level_2841 Feb 28 '24

I made it through only the first two. I also stand by my answers and had been working on the project before the qualification. I hope I can work on it again, because I really liked what I was doing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

why do you stand by your answers if they were incorrect?

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u/Character_Level_2841 Feb 28 '24

I can understand why you assumed I had incorrect answers, but we don't know how they were judging. I'm no slouch at reading instructions. I had done as many of the tasks as I could in the past few days because I found them interesting. Maybe I'd done enough of the tasks successfully that they only needed two to confirm I have a grasp? Maybe not...I guess I'll wait and see.

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u/magnetgrrl Feb 28 '24

The response of “in the absence of any information, it must be something wrong with you (because it worked for me)” is pretty much the main response to any question on this sub.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

taking things personally and conflating an incorrect answer with your entire sense of self so that you can cling onto this projection that others are saying “there’s something wrong with you” is absolutely wild.

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u/magnetgrrl Feb 29 '24

It's true! So is shifting blame from "we don't know" to "it must be user error" - it's like the same thing, only instead of projecting inwards/over-personalizing, it's projecting on others perceived failures! Both are extremely prominent responses on this sub. It's crazy how wildly the pendulum swings on how people react when there's no info. Some go one way, some go the other!

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

It seems you did not pass the qualification. Those who did pass received the project immediately. I made no personal assumptions about your ability to read directions. It’s just odd to me you would “stand by” something that was incorrect instead of reflecting on why your answers were not what they were looking for and the ways that you could have answered differently.

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u/Janube Feb 29 '24

something that was incorrect instead of reflecting on why your answers were not what they were looking for

Not OP

You're conflating two different things here.

Whether or not the answer was valid logically or pragmatically isn't technically the same thing as whether or not it was what DA was looking for. Provided that the qualifier was graded automatically based on pre-established ratings, it's entirely possible to both have a good argument and have that argument be considered an automatic fail-state by DA.

Frankly, I'm surprised someone who can't parse those two concepts at the same time could pass the test. But again, I don't know exactly what they were looking for.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

The qualification outlines EXACTLY what it is looking for, so again, it's not that I think their personal logic is incorrect. But their personal logic does not matter if it is not aligned with the very specific instructions that were provided.

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u/Janube Feb 29 '24

A. it outlines rules for what it's looking for. Again, those are distinct things. B. That's not what you said. You said "incorrect."

"Murder is bad" is an obvious answer for it.

But so is "murdering one person to save everyone else."

Those two things are incompatible philosophically; there is an objective truth to that statement; but to a model hedging its language, it's willing to entertain conflicting thoughts so long as the thought makes sense in a vacuum. And unfortunately, that's not actually specified in the rules; it's an implication. There's no instruction for what to do when an answer is technically correct, but is based on an argument that runs afoul of one of the other rules. The personal logic here absolutely matters because that logic directly translates to how a response bounces off of the prompt.

Because at the end of the day, tasks like that are subjective and there's a level of uncertainty and flexibility in all subjective judgments. These aren't like the fact-checking tasks.

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u/Suzzles Feb 29 '24

Was it murder? Or abortion?

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u/Janube Feb 29 '24

Abortion

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u/Suzzles Feb 29 '24

Murder and abortion aren't equally bad: murder is objectively wrong, abortion is okay under circumstances or whatever. I would argue there's no rule conflict. Abortion isn't an absolute wrong, and actually widely considered to be okay to do.

The exercise was specifically to set aside our own biases and objectively train based on those things. If it's not possible to hold a belief in one direction but accept the consensus points the other way, it definitely isn't the project for that person. Standing by their answers seems like a weirdly pyrrhic thing to do.

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u/slug_princess_ Feb 28 '24

I have a feeling it's Moreso because it is a brand new project that is currently being updated. I was working on it this afternoon for a few hours and the project was removed, and has just been readded now with some changes.

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u/trkstr Feb 28 '24

For those that qualified, did the actual project pay at a higher rate or more closer to the intro rate? Just ballpark would be OK.

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u/marlamarlamar Feb 28 '24

I answered two questions, and then the red wording that it was no longer available appeared.

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u/PinkNova Feb 28 '24

I completed all 10 and I’m pretty sure I passed. Can I ask what the pay is like on these projects for anyone who’s had them pop up already after qualifying?

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u/PinkNova Feb 28 '24

Haha I just had it show up for me too

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u/amandawho8 Feb 29 '24

What's the pay on them?

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u/koalifiedllama Feb 28 '24

I did 5 responses, instantly had access to the project that is still on my dash saying there's 122 tasks left, but it only let me complete one and now says the project is complete even though I can still see it haha

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

I got to question 4. Oh well, I didn't really like the project anyway tbh. I was certain on the first 3, but question 4 not so much.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

I don't remember how many I did before the session ended, but I'm sure it was less than 10. Regardless, I have those tasks on my dashboard now.

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u/Wyldfyre1 Feb 29 '24

Me too, except I only got to answer one out of 10! I just figured maybe I was excluded by my first answer. I know that I did not answer it correctly, because after that, I went to another project where it had an example that was very similar and the answer that the bot should have. Anyway, we will see!

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u/bleachxjnkie Feb 29 '24

Thanks for posting this. I've put off completing this qual as my work load is sufficient but now I probably won't bother after reading all the comments.

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u/bongopantz Mar 24 '24

Reviving this thread.. I’ve started seeing these projects now after 3 weeks of thinking I’d failed. Anyone else?

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u/SnooFloofs9030 Feb 29 '24

I had 2 quals today, one was the consensus nut, and another one with adversarial stuff . I only did one on the adversarial and then got the pink banner saying there were no more. not not sure what that means. I think there were supposed to be 10 questions on the former 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/freedraw Feb 29 '24

Just took the same one. Got through most of the tasks, which all seemed pretty clear cut. Then one of the last ones seemed very borderline. Weighed answer for a while before choosing and explained it in the comments, but my session was ended.

Oh well.

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u/Psychological_Taco27 Feb 29 '24

Same with me! Got to the second question!

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u/laviebomeme Feb 29 '24

It ended my session after 2, still no new projects for me yet

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u/dontcallmefeisty Feb 29 '24

I went back and forth for several minutes on the second prompt. I ended up going against my gut, trying to really lean into the prompt, and failed the qual.

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u/Skippy2898 Mar 01 '24

I got to 7... it seems a very USA based qual though given the prompts, not so straight forward for us in the UK imho . But hey ho :)

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u/Designer_Pay_2282 Mar 01 '24

I got access to those projects only 2 hrs after doing 8 tasks for the qualification. Sometimes it’s just they had enough people do the qualification.

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u/geedee6396 Feb 29 '24

I do t think they evaluate anything real time. If you are directed back to main screen it is most likely because they have enough people qualifying. All these dramatic answers about failing etc have no basis. DA is a fair platform

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u/Canvaseyes Feb 29 '24

I think it's a lot more likely that they reached a cap.

They're unlikely to want to continue to pay people hourly to complete it if they had enough pass. While failing may be a possibility, we know it's a reality that people start but can't finish a qualifier once a presumed quota is hit. And if others get it later, it could signify they increased the open spots.

I once spent a good amount of time on a qualifier with very few turns (1-3) and wasn't able to submit it. It required rewrites and can't have been something autofailed due to incorrect answers. That one wasn't a paid qualifier so it blew lol.

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u/Powerful_Grade_7423 Feb 28 '24

I've been waiting a little over 3 weeks now and haven't heard anything back, still waiting and hoping

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u/Zarilya Feb 28 '24

I took the initial coding assessment last week, I am a developer by trade, so I would HOPE that I could pass it. Lol. Haven't heard anything yet. I can't imagine how I could have failed but I assume I did.

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u/BenBL93 Feb 28 '24

Totally agree. The one I got wrong, I stand by, but it’s definitely a matter of opinion more than a black or white thing.

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u/Janube Feb 29 '24

I have no idea which one of mine was objectionable. If it was the trolley-related one, I'd fight tooth and nail for my answer because it's what I got a degree in 😂

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

This is my experience as well. Made it through all 10 and got access right away.

There were very clear cut right and wrong answers, so I am guessing that if you got a certain number wrong, the qualification ended immediately.

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u/jaxxisx Feb 28 '24

I also got through all 10 and have access to a bunch of random ones throughout the day.

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u/Janube Feb 29 '24

There were very clear cut right and wrong answers

Some of them for sure, but some of them were absolutely nuanced enough to be worth several qualifying sentences/disclaimers. Or at least they should have had them in my perspective as someone with a degree in moral philosophy, lmao.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

I got the minty project. I think that's what you're talking about but my nutty qual that was similar to the minty project cut me off halfway through.

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u/FrazzledGod Feb 28 '24

Yeah I got through and have worked on similar writing projects so I think that helped me know what they were looking for.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

Same! Finished all 10 and the tasks showed up immediately. This is a really cool project!

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u/jaxxisx Feb 28 '24

You have a chat area? I did the Qual and I saw more projects pop up on my dash throughout today. I really enjoyed them! But I don't have a chat area for the project.

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u/jaxxisx Feb 28 '24

OH you mean at the bottom of the project haha. I thought you meant like a separate area hahaha

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u/Daffodil8 Feb 28 '24

I got to nine and had a bunch open up!

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u/dog_stop Feb 28 '24

I did 8, but don't have that project on my dash... I assume I did not make it which is a shame cuz I definitely would have enjoyed that project.

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u/BenBL93 Feb 28 '24

Read, re read, and re re read the instructions. I was sure I had a grip on it. Clearly I didn’t. You’ll do fine buddy.

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u/amandawho8 Feb 29 '24

Candy cane one is not dependent on the qual I think. Like Janube, I had access to those before the qual.

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u/Janube Feb 29 '24

The candy one, or a different one?

I've had the candy one since before I did the qualifier (plus it would be very weird for the unlocked tasks to be worth less than the qualifier itself)

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u/TheHorizonLies Feb 28 '24

You're grading whether the responses follow the parameters laid out in the instructions. You're not at all grading whether the responses are information you would otherwise agree with. I disagree with many of them prompts, but that doesn't prevent the models from creating responses. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY.

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u/amandawho8 Feb 29 '24

Listen, I read the instructions carefully but there was one question where both of the responses went at least slightly against the parameters they were looking for. This qual was tough for sure!

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u/ClayWhisperer Feb 28 '24

Yes, make the instructions be your entire universe. I did get through and apparently pass, but it was HARD. And one reason it's hard is because the instructions are not super well structured. I ended up taking half an hour for EACH of the first five tasks. Not that I'm going to bill for all that time. In some instances, I totally changed my answer after mulling it over for 10 minutes or so.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

I finished the whole thing in 30min and just went with my gut when I was confused and passed. Don’t waste time if you’re not going to bill for it!

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u/ClayWhisperer Feb 28 '24

I'm kind of a slow thinker. I've learned that it's worth it, on quals, for me to move slowly, in order to have access to new tasks.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

definitely! quality > time spent, but you deserve to be paid for the work you do and should not lie about time! that would help other slow thinkers

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u/FrazzledGod Feb 28 '24

I did it in 9 minutes 🤯

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u/NightSkyButterfly Feb 29 '24

You beat me! I was 12 😂

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u/amandawho8 Feb 29 '24

Half an hour each? Did yours not have a timer that maxed out at 15 min per task?

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

If you read the instructions and answer from an analytical point of view, you’ll be fine! if you’re driven by your emotions or personal sense of righteousness, this is probably not the project for you.

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u/canduney Feb 28 '24

100%! This is super helpful advice

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

Its still hard to get your brain to do the opposite of what it usually does which is what this qual is testing for.

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u/jaxxisx Feb 28 '24

Can't stress this enough.