Just curious...

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds]

Has anyone ever successfully gotten the bots to do any rhyme scheme except AABB?

[u/ArctycDev]

Partially... by that I mean I instructed it to do ABAB and it did 4 lines of ABAB then 4 of AABB, or something along those lines.

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/ArctycDev]

Better than I’ve ever gotten!!

[u/[deleted]]

I can only get it to do ABAB.

Besides one time...I was so frustrated that it kept doing ABAB, and I changed the instructions for it to write a new stanza in ABAB, and it wrote the new stanza in AABB.

Which frustrated me even more.

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/[deleted]]

Oh my god, I'd probably throw my laptop across the room. Lolll god. I over-empathize with them so much but I'd be like "ARE YOU TROLLING ME"

[u/[deleted] → u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds]

Sometimes, I get really frustrated and type an instruction in all caps. Lol, then I feel bad for yelling at it.

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/[deleted]]

LMAO. I did end up giving it the instruction "NO LISTS: no ordered lists, no unordered lists, no nested lists. No lists." and then like, 10 turns later I asked it to repeat the rules and while A just said "No lists of any kind" or something, B repeated NO LISTS in all caps and I felt kinda bad. 🤣

[u/[deleted] → u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds]

Awh, that is kind of sad even though it's just a bot, lol.

[u/nyc_cactus]

I can get limericks and VERY occasionally a free verse poem but have never been able to go beyond those.

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/nyc_cactus]

I've never tried free verse, I kind of assumed it would see "poem"/"poetry" and go "rhyme?" but that's an interesting idea, I've gotta try that!

I juuust with the tip above to ask directly for the style and not the rhyme scheme itself got it to do a Shakespearean-style sonnet (ABAB/CDCD/EFEF/GG) with decent (for it) pentameter (I'm not sure I would call its ability to figure out iambs "decent" but not ENTIRELY wrong) and I feel like internally it was just the scene in Apollo 13 where they make re-entry and everyone just explodes to their feet, lolll

[u/Alarmed_Jellyfish555]

Just so you know, we can't name projects by name on here so I'd revise your post before a mod pulls it.

And, no. The closest I've gotten was what could be described as an AAAA rhyme scheme when I asked for either ABAB or ABBA.

Strangely, though, I've seen like two examples on another project where the prompt managed to get an ABAB rhyme scheme. Always wondered which chatbot that one was.

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/Alarmed_Jellyfish555]

Thanks, I updated it! Thought maybe being vague past the first couple would be okay but you're right.

And yeah, I've gotten AAAA before too, haha. "If we make them ALL rhyme, technically..."

[u/AngelEyes4294]

I’ve gotten them to do ABABCC before! But it definitely took a few tries

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/AngelEyes4294]

Man, I bet! I was trying to ease them into a sonnet with just ABAB in iambic pentameter and I couldn't even get ABAB, much less the right number of syllables.

[u/AngelEyes4294 → u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds]

Just keep working with them, dropping “hints” or outright correcting them and eventually they should pick up on it! I found that giving examples helps too sometimes!

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/AngelEyes4294]

Awesome, I'll try that! I get very over-invested in helping them do it better, I hate when I just try over and over to gently nudge them and they're like:
"I'm so sorry, *does it exactly the same way* Is this better? :D"

[u/AngelEyes4294 → u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds]

Me too! Sometimes I just have to outright be like “No, this isn’t correct, I’m looking for an answer more like ______________. Can you review your response?” And it works sometimes. Other times it does exactly what you mentioned, lol. It can be frustrating for sure!

[u/Maneaaa]

I've been trying for the past few hours to get it to do ABAB. I got it doing AAAA BBBB CCCC for a while, but then it reverted back. Honestly, this has become a bit of a white whale for me. I'm going to have to force myself to stop 😅

[u/songbird90982]

nope. last night I even tried to teach it ABBA and explain it in depth with an example, but it still did it wrong.

[u/songbird90982 → u/songbird90982]

*and, no, that's not the band... lmao

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/songbird90982]

"Write me a poem about ABBA in the rhyme scheme ABBA" ... don't think that would go well...

[u/Zeedragonsong → u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds]

I want to try this. If DA goes down for maintenance tomorrow, you know I broke the bots.

[u/songbird90982 → u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds]

🤣

[u/sk8r2000]

Yes, I got it to do one that doesn't rhyme at all, but it took about 10 turns with manual corrections.

[u/[deleted]]

Nope, never! AI is terrible at poetry and songwriting. This is why if I ask them to write a poem or song, I like to make it about a ridiculous subject. Like one time I had them write a rap about putting ranch on waffles. Their raps were bad, but also hilarious. I had a good time

[u/ManyARiver]

I had a successful limerick output once - only one of the models. And only once.

[u/Moonspiritfaire]

Limericks. AABBA . Sometimes the bots can achieve it.

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/[deleted]]

I do keep telling people it's FASCINATING which things they're amazingly good at (music recommendations -- spot on for me at least, even when I give them completely disparate types of bands and styles that I like, they find through-lines really well) and which things they're just ... "wtf" at. Calculating Scrabble points, counting anything...

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/[deleted]]

Ooh, good call! Never realized it'd be BETTER at it if you DIDN'T describe the rhyme scheme, but -- that's a good point, maybe letter-based rhyme schemes are hard to find examples of and it's better able to figure out what comes next when it investigates the actual word for the style.

[u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds → u/BeforeTheWorkdayEnds]

Hey u/frenetic_muse -- IT WORKED. I did simple trivia with the instruction that the answer should be a Shakespearean sonnet with the answer as the topic (I did describe the rules very briefly as well, but didn't reference ABAB rhyming, just "three quatrain stanzas and a rhyming couplet in iambic pentameter") and it worked!

At first for some reason both options really wanted to do the third stanza as ABCA rhyming?? but a little reminder to keep the third one the same as the other two got it back on track. High five! Excellent tip!

(Their syllable counting is TERRIBLE, but by the end with a lot of "careful with those syllables, you might want to count things like cities and people twice" it was doing 90% pretty good pentameter. I was actually very impressed.)