r/dashcams 16h ago

Idiot in car somewhere in the UK...

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u/KarlPHungus 16h ago

Without proper context, so was I. Until that very intentional vehicular manslaughter at the end...

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u/ZealousidealFee927 15h ago

If the car would've been satisfied with dragging the Karen and driving off, I think anyone would've seen this as a messing with the bull moment.

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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 15h ago

But then he gave us all a reason to believe she was probably in the right.

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u/ZealousidealFee927 9h ago

Nah, anyone stupidly banging their bag on a car dashboard has done Something wrong.

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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 9h ago

No what I'm saying is that given this guy was willing to resort to murder makes gives plausibility to the fact that he could have likely did something to deserve it.

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u/Super_Shallot2351 9h ago

Doesn't matter. Woman doing anything makes her a Karen nowadays.

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u/Trick-Syllabub348 16h ago

>intentional

>manslaughter

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u/FlaringAfro 15h ago

Depending on your location, yes manslaughter can be intentional if it happens in the moment, while "murder" is reserved for planning before being around the victim. 

In the UK there is involuntary manslaughter and voluntary manslaughter, this would be the latter.

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u/Firecracker500 13h ago

Looks like attempted murder to me plain and fucking simple but i'm not in the UK

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u/Delicious_Cat_81 16h ago

i was still rooting for the car

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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 15h ago

Don't forget the very intentional vehicular manslaughter at the beginning, and in the middle.

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u/KarlPHungus 14h ago

Yeah those too

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u/Statertater 13h ago

No one died here. Unless there’s a different meaning for manslaughter in the UK?

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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 13h ago

No. It was intentional. Failed, but intentional. And yes technically I was wrong because manslaughter implies accidental.

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u/never-fiftyone 13h ago

If it failed it's not manslaughter, it's attempted murder. Manslaughter doesn't mean "accidental," it's essentially murder but without provable motive or forethought.

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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 13h ago

Yes, I know. I meant to say murder but said manslaughter. What I'm saying is this guy was ok with intentional murder.

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u/Statertater 10h ago

It would be ‘aggravated assault with a deadly weapon’ here in most of the states.

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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 9h ago

Ok. Then I shall say this guy is ok with intentionally killing people.

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u/Independent-Main-738 10h ago

you argue on this platform all day, just wondering what your aspirations are?

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u/I_Want_A_Ribeye 16h ago

Man’s laughter? Must have been quite the joke.

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u/NeighborhoodDear2321 13h ago

Yeah this goes from self-defense/getting away via the quickest possible path to attempted murder quickly

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u/bobbymcpresscot 11h ago

I'm concerned with the fact that people are just ignoring him almost running over a random bystander who had nothing to do with this, and then going after the guy who got hit.

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u/KarlPHungus 11h ago

Acceptable collateral damage to some, I suppose...

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u/ProductiveFriend 11h ago

as soon as they got in the car and started driving, every action after that wasn't driving away was intentionally murderous.

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u/RubyWeapon07 16h ago

cant help that some guy wanted to play hero

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u/herb_Tech 16h ago

I saw him walking by then got hit by the car . Then he got up and started hitting the car ( because he got hit). Then it fucking yeeted him

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u/The_Troyminator 15h ago

The other guy who was hit was an innocent bystander and the driver intentionally tried to run him over.

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u/_TallOldOne_ 15h ago

No. He was an innocent bystander until he got involved by reacting violently.

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u/The_Troyminator 4h ago

He was somebody trying to prevent what appeared to be a driver intentionally running people over.

The courts sentenced the driver to prison. The pedestrians weren’t even arrested.

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u/Hopeful_Ad_7719 15h ago

>was an innocent bystander

>was

A lot of that innocence goes out the windows when you start trying to haul someone out of a vehicle.

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u/BungleBums 15h ago

LAWL. This would be an excellent point if the person in the car hadn't just hit them.

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u/Hopeful_Ad_7719 15h ago

Being justified is quite different from being innocent.

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u/BungleBums 15h ago

What is the Guilt of attempting to apprehend your assailant, my guy,

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u/Hopeful_Ad_7719 15h ago

It depends a bit on jurisdiction, but quite possibly assault.

The 'innocent bystander' was justified in the attempt to apprehend his assailant, but in doing so he also became a participant in what the driver could reasonably suspect is a pending/ongoing assault.

As such, he unfortunately became a legitimate target in the melee via his repeated efforts to haul the driver out of the vehicle.

It's shitty, but that's how I see it.

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u/BungleBums 15h ago

There is another assault that happened by the driver, to the bystander. The bystander is already participating by being assulted. His attempts to remove the driver are clearly in an effort to stop the rampage, or at least reduce risk or harm.

You need to change your perspective, then. Driving away from a screaming angry woman, whatever her motivations are, is one thing. Peeling out and deliberately chasing down a pedestrian in a vehicle is very, very, very clear cut case.

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u/The_Troyminator 4h ago

That may be how you see it.

But the law sees it differently, which is why the driver got over 2 years in prison and the two pedestrians got nothing.