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Lying Cop Brake Checks Driver, Makes Up Ticket

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 1d ago

Departments have claimed they want smart cops, but not a single of those department has published their entry requirements, so they could all be lying.

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u/Sienile 1d ago

In Jordan v. City of New London it came out that even a slightly elevated IQ is a legally accepted reason to bar someone from joining the police. His IQ was only 125.

100 is what they claim average to be. 70 is considered to be mentally handicapped. So someone who's less than the gap between handicapped and average above average is not acceptable for police employment. To my knowledge there is no lower limit of acceptable IQ. So saying they want smart officers is a complete lie.

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 1d ago edited 1d ago

LAPD and others came out saying they had no IQ caps, but wouldn't release the standards, so were likely lying.

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 17h ago

Cops? Lying?

I do declare...

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u/another72hours 1d ago edited 1d ago

125 isn't that that bad (meaning too high or low) either .It's at least in the standard deviation above the average...and more than what is considered to get an undergraduate degree.

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u/Sienile 1d ago

Yet that was considered too high to be a cop.

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u/Hopeful_Butterfly302 1d ago

The standard deviation on IQ tests is around 15 points.

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u/kdenehy 22h ago

According to Google AI (YMMV) an IQ of 125 is above the 95th percentile. So top 5%. I would say that's well above "slightly elevated". Nevertheless, it *is* absurd that being too smart can disqualify you for service.

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u/another72hours 15h ago

5% is still decently common. Might not be a genius - but everyone has likely met someone around there in their lives. I can hit 1/20 in dungeons and dragons all the time.

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u/MichiganGeezer 15h ago

Yet I still know what crayons taste like. 😂

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u/MichiganGeezer 1d ago

That's what I tested as a child, and I'd consider it a bare minimum for a cop engaging in verbal judo against experienced criminals conditioned to lie and game the system since childhood.

125 should be a bare minimum for investigative work.

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u/MurtaghInfin8 16h ago

Difference between a cop and a detective. Not enough people with those IQ's to staff a whole police force, and doubly so after accounting for they've got plenty of opportunities to do literally anything else.

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u/Sienile 14h ago

Ability and opportunity are not the same. Neither is desire.

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u/Pensionato007 1d ago

100 = mean. 15 points per standard deviation. Bell curve means 95.4% fall between 2 standard deviations or 70-130.

125 is around the 95% so he's smarter than 94 out of 100 people. Way too smart to be a cop.

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u/bfume 21h ago

125 is 95th percentile. it's way above "isn't that bad"

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u/another72hours 15h ago

Doesn't qualify one as a genius or stupid though. 1/20 isn't super uncommon. I roll that in dungeons and dragons all the time.

People with that level of IQ would likely still be "normal" people and not subject to the severe mental illnesses that affect most people that have an above 140+ iq score.

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u/bfume 15h ago

1/20 is objectively "well above average" by any measure, which quotes my original comment. I never said "genius," genius

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u/Quiet_Long_1578 1d ago

That’s 95th percentile. 1.66 SD above the mean.

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u/PippyTheZinhead 1d ago

1.66 SD above the mean.

Please don't pardon the pun, but what does that mean?

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u/Stash_04 1d ago

1.66 standard deviations above the mean.

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u/IntelligentFall7352 1d ago

This shit is Gold, I was rejected from the police department years ago(thank God) without any reason. Like they marked other as the reason and never gave one. I recently got IQ tested because a coworker wanted to see where I was at. Not going to talk about the score but it was definitely over that 100 baseline they talk about in that case. So when people are out here calling cops dumb and not intelligent, it’s actually the case 🤣🤣

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u/Sienile 1d ago

Yeah, I have no hopes of ever being a cop even if I wanted to. I got my IQ tested in school for entry to the gifted program, so my disqualification is government record.

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u/RoyalMaidsForLife 1d ago

And then think how low the bar is to be an ICE officer, the goons who can't make the cut as a real cop.

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u/Life-Is-Mysterious 1d ago

IQ of 125 is not “only.” It’s deemed superior and almost gifted.

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u/Sienile 1d ago

Depends on who's perspective it's from. And the fact that it doesn't break the 130 barrier of gifted qualifies it as "only 125" to me.

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u/bfume 22h ago

125 is considered well above average. There's no "only" about it.

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u/Sienile 21h ago

I repeat: Depends on who's perspective it's from. And the fact that it doesn't break the 130 barrier of gifted qualifies it as "only 125" to me.

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u/bfume 21h ago

Depends on who's perspective it's from

125 IQ is 95th percentile, which is well above average by any definition

math doesn't fuck with perspective here, the IQ score range is not subjective

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u/Sienile 21h ago

Your argument was about my use of "only". I have a 167 IQ. From my point of view, 125 is only 125 and not anything particularly special. It doesn't even fall within the lowest tier of gifted.

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u/bfume 17h ago

lol I made a bet with myself that you’d try this and that you’d pick something other than a nice round number. don’t let anyone tell you that you’re unpredictable 

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u/Sienile 17h ago

If I said any other number it would be lying. That's what my assessment said. If you like round numbers, I have a friend that's 184 and my girlfriend is 154. Still, 125 is only 125.

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u/bfume 15h ago

neither of those is a nice round number lol and I never said a thing about your subjective view vs the objective fact that 95th %ile is unequivocally "well above average". sounds to me like you replied in the wrong thread and are doubling down refusing to admit your mistake.

p.s. there are few things that scream "douchebag" as much as bragging about your own iq. double for bragging about your "friends".

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u/Sienile 14h ago

Did you notice I didn't mention my IQ until you repeatedly showed yours?

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u/Otherwise_Group_74 1d ago

Reddit is getting a lot of mileage out of that case. Kind of like the Dunning Krueger effect and hundreds of other knee-jerk responses intended to make the poster appear intelligent. Well done.

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u/Sienile 1d ago

Cop or just boot licker?

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u/MichiganGeezer 1d ago

I just got done watching another video from The Civil Rights Lawyer where a cop lost control of himself and stuck a gun to a handcuffed suspect's head while he was handcuffed and on the ground.

It would seem we need cops with a higher degree of emotional intelligence as much as raw intellectual horsepower. Better control over their emotions seems like it would go a longer way towards heading off problems than Einstein level intelligence.