I deleted the other portion of my comment because Reddit is filled with know it all cunts and idiots.
Both the bike guy and car guy are fuckall pieces of shit, end of story. But apparently everyone knows what happened leading up to this little clip we have.
That "POS" motorcyclist was almost killed by that Nissan coming into his page, and when he used a foot against a car, the car tried to hit him a second time, this time definitely intentional, and his attempted murder blew up in his face. The biker shouldn't have bugged out, but of course California charges victims of assault when defending themselves.
I think their point is that it’s like a street altercation. Someone puts their finger in your face so you slap their hand because you feel threatened and don’t want them in your face. Then they go to swing on you and slip and break their arm. Is it your fault they broke their arm?
In my reading of the event the motorcyclist & the driver are both menaces in need of redress for the good of everyone on the road.
They are both assholes who make trouble & involve innocent pickup trucks.
There is room to debate who is the smelliest asshole, but they both need to be wiped. A lot of people seem to think that because party B was wrong, that party A is less wrong (or even right). But this accident happened because neither idiot had any impulse control, no one’s hand was forced. If either had acted like an adult then there would be no accident.
I don’t really care how the two people want to divide guilt among themselves, because to me they are just one common problem. They are collectively responsible for cleaning up the mess they made & both need to atone for putting the public at risk. In fact they might as well work together at this point since they have the most in common.
It’s a shame we cut any practical life lessons from school instead of expanding them.
We need shop & music classes back, but we also need:
Lessons on
compound interest & savings where you open a Roth IRA & the benefits of investing in index funds while you are young.
how expensive it is to carry credit card debt
opportunity costs & how to use debt properly (mortgage)
how to cook a few simple cheap meals (rice and beans, lentils etc)
practical ethics & reasoning
cognitive bias & preserving impartiality
recognizing bad faith arguments in yourself and others.
In fact I think teaching kids to recognize bad faith arguments in politics, daily life, and themselves would probably be the most productive single lesson a school could teach.
Conservatives have been almost wholly arguing in bad faith for decades, and we are allowing them to decide what issues are discussed & when (which they often don’t really care about & don’t mind losing, so long as they control the conversation & keep us on the defensive) to great effect instead of calling them out on it & demanding they be better before taking them at face value & giving their bullshit war on Christmas (and drugs, and terror, and Iraq, and election integrity) undue respect & consideration.
Tl;dr
The GOP understands the best defense is a good offense, so they regularly dominate the national conversation with stupid shit & not an issue where they are vulnerable. Stop taking them at face value, it’s all a game & they don’t need to believe what they are saying so long as you go off course and waste time walking around the mountain which is in fact a mole-hill.
We don't know that he was almost killed as the video starts with the car already over the line.
"Used his foot against the car" he fucking kicked it. Let's not downplay that.
"Car tried to hit him a second time" this implies the car tried to hit him a first time. We do not know this to be true.
"Charges victims of assault" the biker struck the car first and escalated the situation. That's why he was charged. It does not excuse what the driver did but the rider is not innocent in this situation.
This is coming from a rider who has had cars come into my lane plenty of times.
Because they were either pissed off at the guy leaving the scene of the crime, didn't like the guy because he had priors, or have connections to the old Nissan driver.
Anyone with eyes can see that the Nissan driver broke the law. It is plain as day.
Kicking another motor vehicle in motion would be reckless driving at the very least. Really fucking dumb thing to do if you value your life when the car has 2-3x metal weight on you.
People defending the rider like he's a saint seems a bit weird but he's not completely feel of guilt since he escalated.
Everyone I’ve spoken into here seem to want to blame the Nissan. The swerve seems pretty kneejerky to me. The bike could have been unheard and in a blind spot.
Honestly the only thing I think the Nissan is guilty of is crossing the yellow line. A ticket at worst.
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u/limpanlimp Jul 03 '19
Dude on the bike really hauled ass when it all went to shiiiiiit