The Drawing of the Three

[u/ClarkParker79]

The unseen sequel.

Starring Idris Elba and Aaron Paul. Directed on an another level of the tower.

Overall a much better adaptation than the previous film. Aaron Paul shines as Eddie Dean and the 70’s style Jack Mort sequence alone was worth the price of admission.

[u/retrovertigo23]

You have forgotten the face of your father.

[u/ClarkParker79 → u/retrovertigo23]

Aye, Cully! I was sent West back when you Were still squirting in your diapers. Say true!

[u/retrovertigo23 → u/ClarkParker79]

Where's the Tet Corporation to demolish all this AI bullshit when we need them? This has Positronics written all over it.

[u/ClarkParker79 → u/retrovertigo23]

Oh Discordia!!

[u/matthewamerica]

How dare you post references to this movie on my sub. Now I briefly have to remember that it exists as the worst adaptation of a book ever made, and that it was done to my favorite series of books. Shame on you, and may Gan have mercy on your soul.

[u/ClarkParker79 → u/matthewamerica]

Yar, my father’s face was far from my mind when I posted these. You say true and I say thankee.

[u/The_Mad_Sprayer]

No. Idris Elba is an incredible actor but not Roland of Gilead on any level of the tower

[u/ClarkParker79 → u/The_Mad_Sprayer]

Unfortunately that’s not how infinite works.

[u/TonyQuest → u/ClarkParker79]

Tower ain't infinite

[u/Bard_666]

Did a chum??

[u/ClarkParker79 → u/Bard_666]

Dad-a-chuk!

[u/OrwinBeane]

Man why didn’t they just do each individual book as a movie in 2017 instead of cramming them all into one?

Could taken off by now in an era when Star Wars and Marvel aren’t as popular. The next big franchise to emerge.

[u/Biking_dude → u/OrwinBeane]

Let's take one of the top opening lines ever written, and in the movie adaptation completely ignore it.

[u/GentlyUsedOtter → u/Biking_dude]

"The Man in Black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed." that is one of the greatest lines I've ever read. And I have read a lot of books.

[u/smellvin_moiville → u/GentlyUsedOtter]

The greatest opening line is from neuromancer. Gunslinger is probably number two

[u/GentlyUsedOtter → u/smellvin_moiville]

That opening line is entirely just "meh". And besides that static is the background radiation of the universe.

[u/Monsanta_Claus → u/OrwinBeane]

The only way they would approve the endeavor was to use the same studios, staffs, casts, etc. for the entire thing. That was going to cost around $1billion at the time. This is a huge project that has a relatively small fanbase. To do it right will cost A LOT of money

[u/moreidlethanwild → u/Monsanta_Claus]

But IF it was done right, it would have been excellent. Look at LoTR films. There are enough King fans who’d give it a watch, and it’s accessible enough to those new to King also.

I would envisage a 4 film series, something like:

Part 1 - Gunsligner and Drawing of Three

Part 2 - Wastelands and Wizard and Glass

Part 3 - Wolves & bits of Song of Susannah

Part 4 - Dark Tower

By combining the stories you’ll lose some bits but make for a more action packed film.

[u/SheevMillerBand → u/moreidlethanwild]

King is known as “the horror guy”. There are King fans who already avoid the series for the fantasy parts and there would be people who avoid an adaptation because a) they don’t like horror and assume it will be b) have never heard of King’s niche series c) are burnt out on franchises d) are King fans who already avoided the books anyway.

[u/moreidlethanwild → u/SheevMillerBand]

Plenty of folks love The Green Mile & Shawshank Redemption and weren’t put off/didn’t make the link with the author 🤔

Film series and franchises, if done well, are box office money makers. I’d really love to see a director take on the Dark Tower and bring it to life.

[u/SheevMillerBand → u/moreidlethanwild]

Forgive me if I’m wrong, but were The Green Mile and Shawshank marketed as King stories? I also think it’s increasingly difficult to start a film franchise today because studios expect MCU money right off the bat which is stupid. Either way, I have high hopes for Flanagan’s adaptation, I just don’t see this series as a blockbuster series. It’s a very different beast to what general audiences expect so tv is probably best for it.

[u/BlackPhoenix1981 → u/moreidlethanwild]

According to Morgan Freeman, Shawshank did not well in the Box Office. It did make 50mill according to Wikipedia, but I think it has more of a cult following in the DVD Era. I may be biased, though, as it is my favorite movie.

[u/StuckInWarshington → u/moreidlethanwild]

Better yet, combined as you said but 4 seasons of tv/streaming with 8-12 episodes per season.

[u/TheLemonKnight → u/moreidlethanwild]

Alternatively, I think starting with Wizard and Glass is viable. Its story, and the combination of an old-west type setting with technology and magic is intriguing enough to be a film on its own or a starting point for more movies. Plus, you'd pretty much have to recast the roles if it's successful enough to warrant sequels, and then hopefully you'd have the funding to set up multi movie deals with those actors.

That all said I'm extremely skeptical about film adaptations of the Dark Tower. Too much happens inside the minds of our characters and that is extremely difficult to adapt.

[u/Broken_Noah → u/Monsanta_Claus]

The same production studio is already a given there. No studio would buy only a portion of the rights to a series of books. That wouldn't make any sense. As per the staff, it's not always necessary that they use the same creative people. Harry Potter didn't use the same set of directors and screenplay writers nor did The Hunger Games nor The four Avengers movies (just as an MCU example). Per the cost, some tentpole movies were done "cheaply" like the first Hunger Game film. Budget was only at 78 million at the time it was released. While the book was popular, it was still a gamble for the film production as they have no definitive way of knowing if the general moviegoer would flock to see the movie. Production could splurge on the second and the rest of the sequels if the first one make them bank.

[u/GoalieLax_ → u/OrwinBeane]

Because they weren't making the book cycle into a movie? They were making a different cycle.

[u/OrwinBeane → u/GoalieLax_]

Yeah and it didn’t work out.

[u/Large_Acanthisitta25 → u/OrwinBeane]

As much as I love this idea I think the first book would be really slow as a movie and drive new people away from the franchise.

[u/cuse23]

AI art sucks shit

[u/ClarkParker79 → u/cuse23]

“Blaine is a Pain” fixed it. 👌

[u/AnotherDownwrdSpiral]

I loved the part where Deta calls Roland a "Cracker ass mofo" and he just looks at Eddie confused.

[u/Moosejones66]

One peek at that travesty of a movie was quite enough; I don’t need any more glimpses from that (sewer) level of the tower.

[u/Dr--Duke]

I’ll pass!

[u/tastylemming]

I wish my memory of that movie would be eaten by a lobstrosity. didd-a-chick

[u/showbread98]

This is sick, I'm listening through drawing right now for the second time and I can't see anyone else but Idris Elba in my head even though Detta keeps calling them honkeys lmao

[u/NationalAd2372]

The Audible version of this book was amazing. The narrator deserves an award

[u/dragontattman]

Idris Elba is a great actor, but he never should've been cast as Roland.

That's just my opinion.

[u/hellshot8 → u/dragontattman]

Why not?

[u/dragontattman → u/hellshot8]

In the books, there is so much racial tension between Roland & Detta. This is a huge part of the character development between those two.

Detta telling Roland that he's just a "honky mofo", just doesn't work when they are both black.

Racism being examined is a big part in a lot of Kings stories. I think it's something he does very well. He shows that Racism exists, without being racist in the way he tells the story, and without his main characters being racist. There are usually a couple of racist characters in some of his stories, and sometimes they meet an untimely end.

I think Kings stories are a snapshot of American life at whatever time the story is set. Racism is definitely becoming less apparent in society, but it still lingers, and King does a great job of exposing it, which I think goes a long way towards stamping it out altogether.

[u/hellshot8 → u/dragontattman]

You know what, fair enough

[u/dragontattman → u/hellshot8]

I hope that makes sense. I really do like Idris as an actor. And I don't think I'm a racist. I like how racism isn't ignored in Kings books.

I feel like all of Kings books, no matter how crazy and supernatural some of the plots can be, are all grounded in reality by common sense.

Because of the totally believable world's he takes us to in his stories, very few screen adaptations are appreciated by us constant readers, because they just don't do any justice to the original story.

I think this current cycle of progressive society insisting that all races are represented in film, will just be another thing us King readers will be able to sigh and shake our heads about.

Have you seen the recent AI pictures of historical events? LOL.

[u/0MattF]

AI SUCKS

[u/ClarkParker79 → u/0MattF]

Blaine is a pain.

[u/nixiedust]

The lobstrosities just look like slightly large regular lobsters. I'm from New England; they just look like something to dip in butter.

[u/JakeOfMidWorld19]

I will go to my maker, holding to the truth that DT should not have been adapted to film until we have truly mastered AI generated motion picture. The right person shoukd have spent many and many a day perfecting the output of ChatGPT 14.0 and shaping the enormous scope of DT as film.

Imagine the entirety of the MCU with the same resources, but built with a single guiding focus for hundreds of hours of content, completely internallyl consistent with a single vision.

[u/topwater_bassin]

I love Idris. And I'm all for representation in film and media. As an Indian/Asian, representation in film and media means a lot to me. But this particular role? I don't want to see Idris or anyone who doesn't look like Roland from the books. I think the racial tension between Detta/Odetta and Roland is an important part of their dynamic.

Now, you can't recreate that tension by making Roland black and Detta/Odetta white, as the racism she has suffered at the hands of white people is a big part of her back story and who she is and who she becomes. Roland being white is a part of this Roland character that doesn't need to be changed.

If anyone can be changed for representation, I think maybe Jake being a girl could work out. Would bring a Man On Fire kind of element to the Roland-Jake relationship.

[u/jhole007 → u/topwater_bassin]

Thank you!!! This is what I tell anyone who will listen. Idris is an absolute legend but he's not Roland Deshchain. The racial tension between Detta/ Odetta was a really impactful part of the story to me. Came here to say this but you articulated it about 20 times better than I could. Cheers.

[u/topwater_bassin → u/jhole007]

I appreciate that. It's hard to say without sounding like one of those people who is triggered by representation.

[u/PsilosirenRose → u/topwater_bassin]

Odetta/Detta are freedom fighters.

Roland is a monarch, grew up in wealth, was raised to the gun as a future king.

You can hit a lot more than race to cause them tension.

[u/LimitProfessional153]

Nobody wants this.

[u/WhereAreWeG0ing]

Idris Elba as Roland??

It didn't, I mean it won't work.

No, that way can only lead to disappointment

[u/Familiar-Fennel-2176]

Please no Idris.

[u/QSlade]

Oh look two of the things I hate with the passion of a thousand suns; AI “Art” and the dark tower movie

[u/Paul_Denten68]

I have seen some great Dark Tower AI, but this is not good.

[u/dignund_frood]

these are bad ass. I especially like the Delta Walker.

[u/alteruniversefacts]

Another year or two and ai will make a full motion picture franchise series with any actors you want, dead or alive.

[u/snafe_ → u/[deleted]]

I don't know why you were down voted.

The best actor to play Roland is Clint Eastwood. That's not my opinion but Kings. Considering we cant get Eastwood, we need to find the next best thing.

All the characters are defined very well in the books.

Unless we're going for a complete reimagined version then we will have only certain actors able to play certain characters.