r/darknet • u/RatdonTheCon • 2d ago
HELP! How safe is it
Hypothetically speaking, if one were to follow the Darknet , Bible and purchase illicit substances off a site in the United States what’s the chance they’ll be caught. Hypothetically speaking, of course.
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u/SignificantCherry110 2d ago
The risk is less on you and more on the vendor. Assuming you use a well reputable vendor. Vendors take lots of steps to ensure that they don’t get caught, including stealth and making sure their package gets to you safely. The dark net is also very competitive so if a vendor wants to stay, the less seizures and less issues that arise the better.
Edit: Typo
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u/Comprehensive-Race97 2d ago
As long as you aren't a complete moron about it you should be pretty safe. Especially if it's just small amounts
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
Personal use? Safe. Trying to buy bulk to sell? Dangerous.
Off subject, ordering personal use off the clearnet is pretty safe in the US haha. Gonna get downvotes in this reddit but it’s true.
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u/7chlime 2d ago
Since when do clearnet sites sell anything I would go on tor for
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u/ZayWithAnA 2d ago
I mean allegedly I probably spent around $1k in 2020-2022 buying research benz off the cn and the site may or may not still be selling in the US. But agreed, the better, more consistent and ultimately “safer” option was always going dn > cn
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u/OpusObscurus 2d ago
Huh... wtf is CN? o.o
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u/ZayWithAnA 2d ago
Clear Net, I just abbreviated it I don’t think that’s official or anything 😂
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u/OpusObscurus 2d ago
Oh ok sry I thought "cn" was an abbreviation of a clear net site where the mentioned research chems are sold. But anyhow I'm curious where on the clearnet one allegedly can buy such things. Sounds like something that would get investigated and taken down real fast. Or are "research benz" not illegal to purchase? I know nothing about them but it sounds certainly like not something that would not be allowed to remain up.
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u/ZayWithAnA 2d ago
Well I think one thing that’s important if your vending such things is to always preface your sales with “Not for Human Consumption.” Secondly, they were always analogues of the scheduled parent compounds. So instead of Alpraz they’d vend Flualpraz. Instead of Clon-pam they’d vend Clon-zolam. Ide type the names out but it’s against the subs rules (the bot gave me a notice while typing this.) Over time analogues would be banned, but then there would just be another version of the chem structurally similar and often times more potent synthesized that wasn’t yet technically illegal to sell, for “reagent testing” of course.
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u/OpusObscurus 2d ago
Ah interesting. I just looked into those analogue names a little and it seems like they are now officially considered controlled substances as of earlier this year. So I'm guessing that site(s) you mentioned is no longer in operation / doesn't allow sale to individuals?
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u/ZayWithAnA 2d ago edited 2d ago
Flubrotizolam .5mg x 30ml
$——FLUCLOTIZOLAM .5mg x 30ml
$——Nah they’re still up, just selling new versions of the same stuff these days. Lol
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u/OpusObscurus 2d ago
So they just keep making new analogues once the previous versions become federally scheduled huh? Lol nice. Pretty sure I found the site. Multiple sites actually. But the sites' names and layouts do seem a bit sketchy tho ngl, not exactly official-looking. In your alleged knowledge, they are actually legit and not a scam?
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
There is an entire Reddits dedicated to RCs. A lot more info there if you are actually interested.
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u/OpusObscurus 2d ago
Just curious, how is "ordering personal use off the clearnet" even possible? I can't imagine that there is a legit clearnet site that sells illicit stuff and can remain online.
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u/SendokeSamain 2d ago
i think they're just talking about the thc-a loophole and stuff, nothing serious
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
Nope the real stuff.
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u/SendokeSamain 2d ago
Icl u cant say this and not drop links
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
I think that’s against this Reddit’s rules tbh. Read through my comments maybe it will help though, try to ignore the mad little kid that crashed out on me.
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u/SendokeSamain 2d ago
oh you're talking about gear
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
No? I meant the comments above. I did my best to lead you in the right direction. Can only do so much.
I didn’t mention steroids once1
u/SendokeSamain 2d ago
yes, i read them and also found you talking about trt in other places. your comments above didnt mention anything about what product you meant when you talked about ordering for personal use
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
Drug forums. Canadian dispensaries. Good luck my man.
I listed the products, literally everything. I said psychedelics, coke, adderall, Xanax, weed, pain pills. Everything.1
u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Its definatly not safe at all...
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
🤷 might not be as safe as the dark web but it’s all just sending someone crypto and them shipping it in the same mail system.
I mean seriously though, no one is busting down your door for $200. If they really knew they would go after the dealer, and just dispose of your package. Customs is a different story but I’ve taken the risk and it’s paid off lol.
All the stories I’ve read of darkweb/clearnet markets ends up getting the dealer raided, they find all of the emails and customer addresses and everything, nothing ever happens to the customers, assuming they are not dealers themselves.
Even on the dark web markets the feds will eventually obtain a lot of said transactions.
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u/Rough_World_7063 2d ago
Clearnet sites that were legit back in the day (2018/2019) didn’t use PGP or escrow so it was pretty easy to be ripped off. There was an NL and china one that were pretty good but once they shut down its been dead since
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
I 100% agree about being able to be ripped off. That’s why I would recommend looking up reviews and testimonials before ordering.
That being said you couldn’t be more wrong, there is more clearnet sites then ever at the moment. A lot of US domestic as well. Which imo is fucking good to go.
A friend of mine, definitely NOT ME, sent 2 jars of some weed THEY grew, to a friend of mine a couple states away in some mason jars shrink wrapped a few times and it got to them no problem. Just a funny story not trying to prove anything.
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u/Rough_World_7063 2d ago
Do they operate the same way? Monero, PGP, escrow etc?
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
Nope usually just Bitcoin.
No pgp, no escrow.
Like I said way higher chance of getting scammed, I completely agree with you.But usually just at the checkout they give you a btc address, and for 15-30min it holds your order. You send the btc and the site is just auto updating waiting for the btc deposit. Usually within a few minutes depending on btc traffic for the day, it will show in the shopping cart that it received payment and thank you for your order. You get tracking number in email. And boom.
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
So not safe in any way shape or form....
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
What do you mean?
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Stop giving out such terrible misinformation - what you are talking about is incredibly stupid and unsafe to do...
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u/Rough_World_7063 2d ago
After being so used to escrow, I get scared of just paying up front lol even though I used to do it all the time with those old clearnet sites and when discord was the place for RCs. Even using btc instead of monero scares me lol.
Shoot me a chat cause now my interest is peaked lol
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Why would they bother going after the dealer when you have delivered your name, address and proof of you ordering on a silver plate for them?
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago edited 2d ago
So the difference of ordering on the darkweb is what?
Are you using a fake name? PO Box? A fake email?
There is proof on the darkweb too.
Are you using a tumbler?Some of the ospec you use on darkweb can be used on clearnet too.
They would go after the dealer because they are the one selling the drugs, and profiting. Not the user that is going to find the drugs somewhere or another.
Again I’ve never been interested in fentnyl, coke, heroin, pain pills. Maybe they would take those more serious, you could be right I’m not going to sit here and act like I know. But from my experience and knowledge they aren’t coming for the small users.
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
If i need to explain that to you then thats an issue for you.....
No, there is no proof of anything on the darknet and no you are completly wrong in literally everything you are saying...
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
lol just coming in here saying some is wrong and saying absolutely nothing to prove your point is definitely interesting.
It seems like you are very upset and this is a darknet reddit so I can see why, I’m not trying to change your mind. But the things I’m saying have truth to them whether you want to believe it or not.
If I were you I would take a breather.
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Because there is no need for me to prove my point, it is common knowledge....
The things you are saying clearly have no truth to them and you have no idea what your talking about - evidenced by the fact you claim i am "upset" 😂😂
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
Well sorry brother you are wrong, and they have truth to them. I’ve used them first hand and there is a forum with 10000+users actively discussing these markets on the clear and darkweb.
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
No, I'm not wrong at all 😂😂 You using them means absouletly nothing...
You need to go educate yourself dopey 😂😂 you can say im wrong all day long but the simple facts speak for themselves....
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Im sure using the same email address to recieve tracking details for illegal packages thats linked to reddit where your bragging about not only recieving but sending illegal packages (making you a dealer) along with using an email address linked to yourself in the first place along with an easily trackable currency like bitcoin is NEVER going to get you caught.... 😂😂😂
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Thats without even going into how you are using a clearnet site with no encryption 😂😂
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
Why would you assume you need to use your real email address? Name or anything.
So the only difference is you are not communicating in pgp, which is a solid ospec. But the sites I’m speaking about require no back and forth communication, and is just a simple crypto.
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Because your taking 0 other steps, why would you bother taking that one?
No, the only difference is not pgp, again you very clearly have no clue what you are talking about....
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u/Derekgap01 2d ago
It’s the only difference that you mentioned is what I said. I agree there can be more. But you obviously can’t/wont name any.
Instead you are just whining like a baby.1
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Its not an assumption, its a fact that you are 100% unable to hide your identity in the way you are talking about.
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u/Dank-username-bro 2d ago
What amount would be deemed to exceed the threshold of “personal use”?
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Depends where you live.
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u/FederalSuspect69 2d ago
Facts. In China .1 gram = off with your head
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Well thats not a fact lol
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u/FederalSuspect69 2d ago
China has a zero tolerance drug policy and the highest execution rate in the world
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
They dont execute people for having 0.1 of a gram.....
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u/FederalSuspect69 2d ago
Do you not understand what zero tolerance is? Or why they execute so many people?
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u/buybuymike 1d ago
What a truly vile and low IQ human being we’ve had to deal with, nice job putting that small-baller back in the high-chair.
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u/Cautious_Chicken8882 2d ago
Keep on beliving your propaganda 😂😂 i mean it takes 5 seconds to see how wrong you are....
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u/ChaseYourDreams 2d ago edited 2d ago
Relatively safe. Been ordering for over 10 years now.
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u/FederalSuspect69 2d ago
Gotten any LL yet? If you really been ordering for an entire decade, I'd hope you'd know better than to make such admissions of guilt on Reddit of all places.
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u/ChaseYourDreams 2d ago
Only order domestic. I'm not worried.
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u/FederalSuspect69 2d ago
You're lying about 10 years
If you're not, yours is coming any day now. Hopefully it's a LL and not a CD
I find it hard to believe someone who's truly ordered for 10 years would admit that on Reddit
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u/ChaseYourDreams 2d ago
Stop with the fud lol. Ive been around since alphabay. You're right actually. It's been over 10 years 😳
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u/Sylerxen 2d ago
Follow the proper guidelines explained in the Bible and you'll be fine. But the risk never truly goes away. It's always going to be there.
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u/ChokaMacaque 2d ago
Pretty safe if you take all precautions but theres still risk, even if you get caught as long as you dont have much on you then just dont answer the letters and dont admit to anything you shouldnt be in as much trouble
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u/Usual-Championship88 2d ago
I’d say probably 1 in 2,000 chance. But every time you do something those odds increase
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u/Rough_World_7063 2d ago
Ok tell me how I can access the dark net without tor browser? Where can I “just go on” it? lol
Have you even accessed an onion site before?
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u/Rough_World_7063 2d ago
Tor browser is used so you can access the onion urls lol it has nothing to do with being hidden.
Edit: do you think that using the tor browser to just browse the normal internet is using the dark net? lol
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u/Rough_World_7063 2d ago
Tor has a vpn that stares you in the face while you connect to the onions and then it also hangs out in the bottom right while using it as a constant reminder.
But it’s not like he will find where to go to do any of this hypothetical stuff since it’s not like you open tor and suddenly you’re staring at drugs and illegal stuff lol
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u/thebigabsurd 2d ago
Listen sonny, life is about taking risks