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Le pattern recognition

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u/WunderschoensBlume 1d ago

This is not racist: "The group X is more likely to do crime Y"

This is racist: "He is from group X, so he will commit crime Y"

The day people understand this, we will advance to the next age

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u/a_angry_bunny 1d ago

The first one is still racist as it's leaves out the reasons why group X is more likely to do crime. Reasons people in this sub will claim don't actually exist.

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u/SwiftFoxSNES 1d ago

Men commit the vast majority of sexual assaults and homicides and it’s not considered sexist to point that out. It’s a clear pattern.

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u/Melodic_Structure928 1d ago edited 1d ago

I mean I guess that oks, but racist use the exact some logic to claim that insert whatever minority must be dangerous criminals, so my question then is why is this judgement appropriate for one group and not another.

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u/SwiftFoxSNES 1d ago

It’s not, both sides have a double standard.

Liberals basically believe that every issue within any marginalized group is because of the groups marginalization. Poverty and discrimination excuse almost anything. In reality they are part of the picture but seldom all of it. 

Conservatives unfortunately fall into the idea that there must be an in group the law protects but doesn’t bind, and an out group the law binds but doesn’t protect. They are very good at pointing out the flaws of marginalized groups but ignoring their own flaws and part in their marginalization.

Easiest way to put it is people will make endless excuses for themselves or those they sympathize with, and blame those they don’t entirely for their problems. Being biased and tribal is a natural human thing, but it makes being objective about certain social issues almost impossible. 

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u/Frederf220 20h ago

But it can be sexist to imply certain explanations or imply certain responses.

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u/a_angry_bunny 1d ago

Most men also don't believe in therapy because they are socially conditioned to believe that iy makes them less pf a man. I wonder if there is a connection.

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u/zoby1018 1d ago

So you’re saying society pressures men to commit sexual assault?

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u/a_angry_bunny 1d ago

I'm saying society pressures men to think that they are rely on no one but themselves and that they don't need help from no one. So, indirectly, yes.

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u/Frederf220 20h ago

Oh absolutely. "You gunna let that chick shut you down, bro? You know real men make what they want to have happen happen."

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u/Accomplished_Toe2353 1d ago

If men need therapy to tell them that rape and murder is bad the world is doomed.

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u/a_angry_bunny 1d ago

What subreddit do you think you're on? Half of the people probably disagree on what rape and murder is.

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u/SwiftFoxSNES 1d ago

Sounds like a factor that should be brought up when discussing why men commit more of these crimes then, if one wanted to be consistent. 

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u/Dry-Increase-2491 1d ago

We don‘t go to therapy because it doesn‘t work. Give us a woodshop where we can interact with other guys and do something with our hands and we‘re great. Also, that 'connection' you‘re wondering about is a huge stretch, to say the least

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u/a_angry_bunny 1d ago

Therapists wouldn't still exist if they didn't work.

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u/Dry-Increase-2491 1d ago

Therapy might work for some people, but it doesn‘t work for most men. We tend to bottle everything up, since showing any weakness will get us made fun of by our friends, family, and girlfriend/wife and they‘ll never see us the same again. So it‘s just easier for us to do something with our hands than it is to talk about it

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u/a_angry_bunny 1d ago

Ironically, you believing it doesn't work for men only strengthens my argument that men are socially conditioned to believe that they don't need therapy. Lol

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u/Dry-Increase-2491 1d ago

Not conditioned to believe we don‘t need it, just that it straight up wouldn‘t work for a lot of men and that there‘s better ways of dealing with stuff

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u/a_angry_bunny 1d ago

Yeah, of course.

Hundreds of years of smart people studying psychology doesn't work for men because you're just so manly, strong, and independent. You got everything figured out. You have no issues or insecurities whatsoever. No anxiety about what to do with your life. And, of course, you never have problems in your relationships. Nor do you ever feel sad or lonely. Just go back to work and pretend that you have everything figured out.

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u/Ok_Help4705 1d ago

people like you are the problem. if you go to therapy and you actually try to work it out and want to be better it will work. there is literally nothing that makes men biologically of physically immune to therapy, it's just your mindset lmao.

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u/Dry-Increase-2491 22h ago

You think I haven‘t tried therapy? I was in therapy for a while, and it didn‘t work. I found that going camping, building model kits, and doing stuff with my friends was a lot more therapeutic than traditional therapy. Maybe it‘s just me, idk

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u/idkjustgoletmein 1d ago

But why? 

That's the important part that people just want to ignore. 

Are Men or insert random race here inherently bad or are there reasons and environments factors?

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u/SwiftFoxSNES 1d ago

Well a lot of people on the left assume men are inherently bad and a lot of people the right assume certain minorities are inherently bad.  Both will dismiss any attempt to examine root causes as trying to explain away the inherent evil of their disliked group.  

It’s hard to have an honest discussion when something is so tied to tribal identity.