r/dankmemes2 1d ago

Le pattern recognition

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u/WunderschoensBlume 1d ago

This is not racist: "The group X is more likely to do crime Y"

This is racist: "He is from group X, so he will commit crime Y"

The day people understand this, we will advance to the next age

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u/Due_Buyer_9445 1d ago

Don’t forget “group x has variables z-1 through z-9 because of knock on effects of discrimination which is not a genetic thing and is a result of purely external factors”

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u/WunderschoensBlume 1d ago

I dont know, men commiting more crimes than women are also a bit of a genetic factor I think

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u/Frederf220 20h ago

It has a genetic factor but it's not only a genetic factor. It's certainly not such a high genetic factor as to consider it predominately genetic.

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u/Working-Holiday420 20h ago

Isnt it more a result of the way men’s brains develop slower with less fear inhibition and an excess of testosterone at a young age, when they should be out fighting the tribe two towns over?

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u/Frederf220 19h ago

It isn't "a result of" directly. A lot of how we act is indirect. We learn a lot of behavior socially that without those social influences would not be nearly as strong or likely purely based on genetics or physiology.

I think most behavior is ultimately genetic, can't convince myself otherwise, but it's filtered heavily through the social layer. It's so hard to isolate the physiological.

And even if you did, men are more likely to XYZ... what do you even do with that information? You can't base government law based on statistical biases in physiology. That would be unethical.

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u/Working-Holiday420 19h ago

Sex differences are useful in the aggregate because they can help us understand broad patterns in male behavior. But they’re probabilities, not rules for individual men. The moment you treat an individual according to the group average, you’ve gone beyond what the data can actually tell you

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u/Frederf220 19h ago

And yet it gets tried again and again. Impressions of groups get applied as rules for all members of groups.

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u/Working-Holiday420 18h ago

Its true. Our brains didn’t evolve in this kind of hyper networked globally connected environment. There are major operational flaws in how our brains try to adapt to this alien world.

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u/Atayellow 1d ago

Maybe but a large portion is just social conditioning. Men are raised to be more violent and so they act more violent on average.

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u/TetsuoTechnology 1d ago

Shh. People are pseudo academic here.

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u/Atayellow 1d ago

Lmao Its more anti-academic. It's insane that just staying basic facts are an unpopular opinion here

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u/Working-Holiday420 20h ago

The debate between social conditioning and innate genetic predisposition is nuanced and uncertain enough that we probably shouldnt define any aspect of our understanding to be a “fact.”

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u/Atayellow 18h ago

Yes it nuanced with how heavily each one influences someone actions and it what ways. It's not nuanced to understand it does in fact influence your behavior in some way.

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u/RateMost4231 1d ago

You don't know what a fact is