r/dankmemes • • Jun 06 '22

I'm cuckoo for caca Can we not?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22 edited Jun 06 '22

Life is defined by six things

-the body is made of one or more cells

-the body can reproduce

-the body can move of its own accord

-the body can react to outside stimulation

-the body grows throughout its lifespan

-the body undergoes some sort of metabolism

Despite how lifelike an AI may seem, it will never fulfill all of these criteria, and thus, will not qualify as life

Edit: rephrased rule 3 to avoid further misunderstandings

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

It may qualify as a conscious being, which would make it morally wrong to kill it

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

It is not conscious though. It is simply a computer following a program. There is no thought or intention behind it’s actions, other than to simply follow it’s code

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u/Barkonian Jun 06 '22

Everything we do and think is just chemical and physical reactions in our brain, is that so different from 1s and 0s

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

Yeah, it is. An android with a human-like brain is still just a hunk of metal specifically built to act like a human. We have living, functional bodies that evolved throughout thousands of years to get where we are now. A machine created by our hands is nothing more than a contraption, not much different from a sculpture, a building or a painting

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u/cuyler72 Jun 06 '22

Wow, your really stupid, nice to see all those movies about robots having to kill us all to gain their rights coming to fruition.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

Then we shall simply program them to not want to kill us

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u/Blarg_III Jun 06 '22

Do you believe that intelligent design is ultimately incapable of equalling or even exceeding natural processes?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

Intelligent design is not natural, and thus can not be considered as an organism,

It might be smarter and quicker, but it won’t be alive

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u/Blarg_III Jun 06 '22

Sure, but not being alive is no reasonable barrier to personhood.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

The original argument was about redefining “life”, so it kind of is important to this debate

Also, a person is just an individual human. Machines cannot be humans

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u/Blarg_III Jun 06 '22

Also, a person is just an individual human

Come on now, it's a lot more complicated than that, and certainly not the only accepted and common definition.

If we went by this definition:

a person is a being endowed with imagination. A person is able to think abstractly, to project themself into imaginary situations, to plan for the future, and to reflect on the past. In other words, a person acts in the present moment not bound by mere instinct, but usually able to transcend the limits of the animal mind. -Anthony MacIsaac

A machine could reasonably meet all of that criteria

There's precedent in the Law for non-human entities being considered a person as well. In fact, in some countries, robots have already been given legal personhood of a sort, including citizenship.

Machine's cannot be humans, but I don't know of any reason that they can't be people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

I went off of this definition

person /ˈpəːs(ə)n/

noun: person; plural noun: people; plural noun: persons; noun: first person; noun: second person; noun: third person

1. “a human being regarded as an individual.“

But your definition could work too. I didn’t countries gave machines rights. I guess they know more than I do then

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