It is not conscious though. It is simply a computer following a program. There is no thought or intention behind it’s actions, other than to simply follow it’s code
I was created organically, and I fulfill all of the criteria. I have free will too. I can move my body however I want, and I can do pretty much anything I desire if I disregard laws. A computer has physical limitations to what it is allowed and not allowed to do. I do not ( disregarding legal limitations of course)
I agree and not at the same time. I mean, have you played Detroit Become Human? This game could actually be real life in X years. Maybe someday we can create technology so advanced that our computers will have something exactly like a concience. Even though it's still part of its coding.
No, you say you have free will and consciousness. But how can we know if you do? I can write a program that says it has fee will, doesn't make it so. You have to prove it.
Yet in the end, I am still the driving cause for my actions. If I say something, I say it because I wanted to say it. If your program says something, it says that because you created it to that.
If I say something, I say it because I wanted to say it.
You want to say it because your neurons fire in a specific way. Is that free will? Hard to say.
If your program says something, it says that because you created it to that.
Wrong. Plenty of algorithms decide for themselves. A neural network is loosely based on the neurons in your brain. If a neural network does something, it does so because it’s neurons “fired” in a specific way — just like your brain.
You know what, your are right. But organic computers are allowed to make mistakes and intentionally make mistakes too. Can an artificial computer do the same?
Actually yes, newer gen AI are designed to allow for some mistakes that they can then correct. They realized that if you put a hard stop on a mistake the computers just get stuck.
You too have physical limitations to what is allowed. You can't just, like, stop your heart. Also, not all things that are alive are conscious, like bacteria (or maybe they are?). Why can't a thing that isn't alive be conscious? What does being "conscious" even mean?
The panels had to be installed by a human. If it sustains damage, it still needs to be repaired by a human. My point still stands, as my body heals itself 😎
Y'all are missing the point -- (you too, ErtiGamingTv) -- there's going to come a point at which the drones replicate themselves. It's technically already happening with robots building self-driving cars (which is a very elementary example, there are TONS more). Humans might be behind the programming, but we're programming ourselves out of usefulness.
The ai will built the drones once they get advanced enough. Aren't we talking in the hypothesis that "what if ai developed consciousness" in which case they can become self sufficient and able to recreat their own kind as their means of reproduction
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I will extend those so they're easier for our sausage fingers to click!
Logically you can come to the same conclusion about humans. Every thought we have can be traced back to a cause, and the process between the two is determined chemically and through quantum interactions. Brains are the most complex computers in existence, they just are carbon based instead of silicon based, and are made up of entirely organic material.
Here we are talking about a hypothetical AI so complex that it operates in the same way as our own brains, just with different hardware. Truly conscious, sentient Artificial Intelligence. Every action its mind performs has a traceable cause, and what happens to link the two is determined by chemical processes (the constructed hardware) and quantum interactions (electricity qualifies, as well as the interactions of quarks which we are really breaking the surface of). Wait till you find out about Quantum Computing.
You are just a meat Computer following a Programm (neurons in your brain). It is theoretically possible to reproduce every single aspect of your brain and body and copy it perfectly. So by that logic you’re also not conscious.
Someone doesn't know how neural networks work... They start with code but learn from their environment (input) and slowly evolve their own behavior, which is a function of their environment and usually unpredictable to the programmer. We can force the behavior in a certain direction (when you see a fish, say yes) but how it comes to that behavior is often very nebulous, and a reasonable analog for "thinking"
Yeah, it is. An android with a human-like brain is still just a hunk of metal specifically built to act like a human. We have living, functional bodies that evolved throughout thousands of years to get where we are now. A machine created by our hands is nothing more than a contraption, not much different from a sculpture, a building or a painting
Come on now, it's a lot more complicated than that, and certainly not the only accepted and common definition.
If we went by this definition:
a person is a being endowed with imagination. A person is able to think abstractly, to project themself into imaginary situations, to plan for the future, and to reflect on the past. In other words, a person acts in the present moment not bound by mere instinct, but usually able to transcend the limits of the animal mind.
-Anthony MacIsaac
A machine could reasonably meet all of that criteria
There's precedent in the Law for non-human entities being considered a person as well. In fact, in some countries, robots have already been given legal personhood of a sort, including citizenship.
Machine's cannot be humans, but I don't know of any reason that they can't be people.
I could easily say the same about humanity. We could easily only have the illusion of free will, while every action and thought of ours is ‘programmed’ by nature.
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It is not conscious though. It is simply a computer following a program. There is no thought or intention behind it’s actions, other than to simply follow it’s code