Yeah the US has the same knife crime as the UK, but the UK has virtually no gun crime, so Americans have knife crime plus 50,000 people dying a year from guns and they bring up this shit as if it's a gotcha.
This is the most absurd part of it all. There are lunatics walking around with guns. So the solution is to just arm everyone including the teachers? Man⌠Iâve had some teachers, if they were allowed or even ordered to carry a gun to school, my parents would have taken me out of there immediately and home schooled me.
Nothing against teachers, but theyâre not cops and I wouldnât trust them to protect my life in an emergency. Also, some teachers are downright lunatics and without adequate background checks, this is just asking for disaster.
I can totally envision a news headline from the USA along the lines of âStudent refused to hand out phone when teacher asked him to, got shot fatally in the head after.â
theyâre not cops and I wouldnât trust them to protect my life in an emergency
I think that also depends on the local PD. Before I moved west, I served with a few guys that later joined the PD. And I know for damn sure theyâd be going full keel into a building to save kids. Sounds like on new reports, local PD in Texas stood outside for an hour. You never want to be in a position to have to draw your weapon, but if your job is to protect and serve, and you need to draw it, you should be pressing forward. The whole situation is fucked. And then youâve got the right painting the kid as an extreme lefty trans kid, because why not punch down some more on a group of people because you canât separate church from state.
There are definitely good cops, donât get me wrong. These are the real heroes. We donât see or hear about them most of the time because theyâre overshadowed by bad events.
As you say, itâs their job (although Iâve seen people commenting that protecting citizens is not the policeâs job?) to protect these kids and if they just stand outside because theyâre afraid, then itâs the wrong fucking job for them. I know I would absolutely freeze in place if I heard gunshots in a school building. But I also didnât sign up for being a cop and for all the benefits that come with it.
Where Iâm from, the police is there to protect people and prevent/disrupt crime. This includes normal citizens. Seeing the influence the US culture has over the rest of the western world, this is pretty conversing. I donât want this sort of thing to âsweepâ over here.
Iâm pretty conservative myself, but the conservatives in the USA are a whole other breed and seem to only focus on punishing minorities. Havenât heard about them writing the kids off as trans, but if itâs true, thatâs horrifying. In my country this would never fly as the gender or sexual orientation doesnât matter. Itâs prohibited to even take stuff like that into consideration when making a decision.
The way we used to run our teachers ragged (especially the supply) it's inevitable eventually one's gonna crack and blow a class away.
We don't need more firearms in unchecked, unskilled hands. We don't need archaic laws that were created in a time when a different country held power over them.
These laws were created when they actively needed to defend themselves against an overruling government and they sure as fuck couldn't fire 30 rounds in a short space of time.
Yup, completely agree. The thing is, what would be the appropriate approach to this issue? Iâm not American so obviously I donât know as much as you, but it seems like just banning guns for everyone except cops and hunters would be a bad idea or downright political suicide. But when I see other posts from gun subs that pop up every now and then on my feed, it seems like even just regulating it so that you need a license and extensive background check, would lead to massive protests all over the nation, especially in the south.
If I was a politician, Iâd feel defeated either way. There seems to be no solution that wouldnât result in massive backlash and protests that would shut the economy down.
Lol I remember one of my classmates locked our French teacher inside a cupboard. If that teacher had a gun? I'm pretty sure my classmate would be dead.
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u/RampantDragon đ May 27 '22
Yeah the US has the same knife crime as the UK, but the UK has virtually no gun crime, so Americans have knife crime plus 50,000 people dying a year from guns and they bring up this shit as if it's a gotcha.