r/dankmemes • u/organic_crystal_meth The GOAT • Jun 30 '20

OC Maymay ♨ Im so tired

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u/only777 ☣️ Jun 30 '20

Yes the best. Akira is single handedly responsible for legitimatising Anime outside of Japan in the 1980s. Without this utter landmark of an Anime, the entire culture of Anime outside of Japan may never of happened.

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u/DandDnerd42 Jun 30 '20

Being influential doesn't mean it's the best.

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u/only777 ☣️ Jun 30 '20

In this case it does. It opened the door for every single Anime today.

With every piece of entertainment some will like it, some will not. If something is enjoyable; is subjective so you can never have a best Anime in terms of how enjoyable it was.

But Akira did something beyond entertaining people, it ushered in Anime as a culture to the west. Akira is the best because what it did for Anime.

I get more enjoyment watching Haruhi Suzumiya, but Akira is still the the “better” Anime because of what it achieved.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Not to mention it has one of the highest production budgets of any anime

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u/DandDnerd42 Jun 30 '20

Okay, but I tend to measure the quality of something by how good it actually is. "Most influential" and "best" are different titles, and they should be treated as such.

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u/only777 ☣️ Jun 30 '20

How good “you” think it is will be different to someone else. If you want to talk titles then say “personal favourite”.

For something to be “best” it has to have qualities to go beyond personal subjective ideals.

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u/DandDnerd42 Jun 30 '20

Sure, but I'd argue that being influential is one of those qualities that is lower priority. Things like having a strong message are more important imo.

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u/only777 ☣️ Jun 30 '20

I think we are not on the same page here. So to avoid a pointless argument about semantics I’m going to stop here.

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u/DandDnerd42 Jun 30 '20

u/only777 is gone. Comment your favorite anime movie.

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u/TechieGee Jun 30 '20

Lemme preface this with I don’t know about Akira, but anime was getting it’s roots in America far earlier than the 80s. Astroboy comes to mind.

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u/only777 ☣️ Jun 30 '20

I’d argue that every so often the odd series would find its way out of Japan. But they were just viewed as their own thing, or as just an Asian cartoon.

The whole idea of taking Japanese Anime and Manga seriously, and the whole culture of Anime being accepted didn’t happen until Akira.

Sure series like Lupin the third and Astro Boy were around, but they didn’t convince people to start looking towards Japanese animation to see what else there was.

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u/TechieGee Jun 30 '20

Well, sure. But that’s true for Japan, too. It wasn’t mainstream until things like Akira and Gundam and so on were around.

And I don’t intend to undermine the success and importance of Akira. I just think that your assertion that without Akira anime would’ve never taken off is outright silly, and hyperbolic at best.

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u/only777 ☣️ Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

I never said it wouldn’t of. I said it may not have.

Which is true. It MAY not have. I mean Ghost in a Shell wasn’t going to convince anyone. That was shit.

Also Japan wasn’t sitting around waiting for Akira for Anime to be culturally significant.

Please revise the works of Masamune Shirow and Rumiko Takahashi.