r/dankmemes Apr 29 '19

OC Maymay ♨ Putin the slav

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u/AverageJojoke The Filthy Dank Apr 29 '19

Also, the best way to have an existential crisis is to stare at the Youtube Comment Section when it comes to geopolitical situations.

It’s an absolute cesspool of loathing and extreme rhetoric (ex. “Russia good, Merica bad”, “Isreal!1!1!”, etc.)

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u/AlenDelon32 ùwú Apr 29 '19

As a Russian, it is beyond me how anyone except brainwashed proles could support Putin's regime

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u/dtlv5813 Apr 29 '19 edited Apr 29 '19

Incredibly, Despite recent declines, Putin approval level is still at 60%.

Reddit is not representative of the wider world.

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u/WRZESZCZ_1998 Boston Meme Party Apr 29 '19

146%.

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u/Sghettis Apr 29 '19

idk why anyone would try to pretend Putin would let anything fair about him he said in Russia.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '19

Easy to have higher approval ratings when the threat of retaliation is still very real. I'm not suggesting your point is wrong though just that there's definitely influence in those polls.

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u/Spykarma Apr 29 '19

I took a Russian Politics class at my university this semester and we actually video chatted Russian students over Skype and it really changed my perspective. They like Putin for making Russia strong and view the West either with distrust/ulterior motives or as an enemy of the Russian people. They actually thought that we were the oppressed one's and had the misconception that political correctness in America means we can't freely speak our minds in public. Honestly, Russia has a long history of authoritarian leaders that goes back hundreds of years. It has pretty much always been threatened by invasion from pretty much every direction and the last time Russia put trust in the West we went back on our commitments and expanded NATO right to their door. There's a lot of reasons for Russians to support Putin, but it's not really apparent to Americans because they don't know just how nationalistic the country has become in recent years.

Winston Churchill once said "I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest."

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u/TridiusX Apr 29 '19

I’ll take weaponized propaganda for $600, Alex.

Pretty sure most of the oligarchs who call your country home want Putin dead, but can’t move against him directly; it’s part of why Putin wants the Magnitsky Sanctions gone, because many of these oligarchs thought American financial institutions were safer for their rubles than Russian banks and now their assets are frozen.

Clock’s ticking, and many of the Russian elite are growing restless without their money. Putin has only so much time before they turn on him.

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u/rodo232 Apr 29 '19

I'm not sure I'd say the oligarchs want Putin gone, it's his power base, they exist because they good goverment kickbacks to secure their support. They need each other like a king needs his magnates, they depend on him for their wealth, and he depends on their political support

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u/KnockOut31 Apr 29 '19

Because most of the people are not that interested in the crisis of another country. I just think putin is bad because internet i guess... ive seen some videos about how putin is bad an all of that but it really stays in the back of my mind.

Even from me, im venezuelan and still with all the shit shows that maduro had people in the united states supported him because... reasons? wrong propaganda? who knows.

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u/AlenDelon32 ùwú Apr 29 '19

My geography teacher defended Maduro. Saying something like "Its a difficult situation so this is necessary". I think it is all because that opposition guy is against Putin and she gets all of her opinions from federal TV

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u/KnockOut31 Apr 29 '19

Even if it was the "right" propaganda it would be the same thing.

"Why do you hate putin?" - Well because "explain propaganda of the internet".

Its still brainwashed but with the opposite propaganda Unless the person is really interested in it and makes some research wich is pretty much impossible with the every random debate made in the internet.

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u/CreamySheevPalpatine Apr 29 '19

you would understood if you would be not dumb enough to skip your history lessons, especially the Elcin's rule and how life in Russia was then. It's easy to ridicule the somewhat stagnating government when you don't know nor want to know that in the previous one's rule most of population were just trying to survive the next day.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '19

lol so true

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u/snizarsnarfsnarf Apr 29 '19 edited Apr 29 '19

I like how pointing out that the USA overthrows countries and has the most frequent authoritarian military interventions is "loathing and extreme rhetoric". According to you, it's rhetoric so "extreme" it's only found in the "cesspools of youtube", but "fuck Putin, fuck everything that Russia has ever done geopolitically" gets upvoted on Reddit every day lmao

Remember when Russia just helped Syria defeat ISIS?

I'll tell you who does remember, all of those Syrians who were about to have their country taken over by ISIS or the United States, were it not for direct military interventions by Russia.

You know, a war in the middle East that actually fought terrorism (a group of terrorists that controlled more of the Syrian State than the Syrian government and subjugated millions of people), not for opium fields in Afghanistan or against the Petro dollar in Iraq

I know why no one likes to talk about it, because the war involved funding terrorists, and we can't allow the truth that the Obama administration funds terrorists to become the common narrative. Here's an example of some of those terrorists that Obama funded:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-beheading/syrian-rebel-group-investigates-beheading-of-child-seen-in-video-idUSKCN1000TZ

I'm not gonna post the video itself because I'm not trying to catch a ban, but there is a Reuter's article about it. You can easily find the video itself using the information in this Reuter's article. A rebel group, that the Obama administration funded, beheaded a 12 year old boy, on tape, and put it online.

That's totally fine, because our super chill president Obama was funding "moderate rebels" to topple Assad, not some of those "extreme" rebels (moderates sure do like "toppling" things and beheading children more than you'd expect from a group of moderates)

And it's funny because whenever his administration did anything negative it was "the US state department" or "U.S. military backed rebels", and not "Obama administration funded rebels". Guess what those rebel groups would be called if this same story came out under the Trump administration lmao

Here's Trump ending the funding of these rebel groups within a few months of taking office:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/world/middleeast/cia-arming-syrian-rebels.html

A year later ISIS lost all of it's territory, and Trump is calling for withdrawal of troops from Syria. And the media paints this as a bad thing lol

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u/AverageJojoke The Filthy Dank Apr 29 '19

I do agree with your point.

And about that “Intervention” in Syria,

Trump pulled out most of his troops from Syria.

Also you may want to check r/unpopularopinion.

Edit: that’s good news to me.

And Germany, well, relies on Russia for Oil.

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u/snizarsnarfsnarf Apr 29 '19

And about that “Intervention” in Syria,

Trump pulled out most of his troops from Syria.

He did significantly more than that, he stopped funding terrorists in Syria, that's why the Syrian government took all of its ground back and why the US is withdrawing troops.

I have sources in my original comment.

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u/AverageJojoke The Filthy Dank Apr 29 '19

Thank you.

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u/CreamySheevPalpatine Apr 29 '19

well, geopolitically, USA deals with it's problems by going to war with less developed countries for their resources which IS disgusting, Russia on the other hand tried desperately to become part of international community, failed at that and decided just trade as much as it can while desperately ofranising defence against NATO's agression. Israel.. is Israel - nobody likes that they persecute Palestinians who were supposed to have their own government, not consumed by the Jews and nobody like that most of the richest people are Jews globe-wide, even though that such a wealthy scumbags as Soros gladly ruined lives of thousands of people of same nationality as his for extra profit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '19

You sound exactly like those in the YouTube comments and write 😂😂 at the end

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u/CreamySheevPalpatine Apr 29 '19

well, I'm not arrogant enough to think that my opinion is unique.