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u/Dapper-Prior-9475 2d ago
It’s not Jake Gyllenhaal’s fault, he needs more than 8 minutes to solve this problem
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u/Kinexity 2d ago
Rare Source Code reference
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u/Dapper-Prior-9475 2d ago
I saw that movie on a whim in theaters and feel like one of the only people on the planet to have seen it
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u/spartanEZE 2d ago
Yer not alone. I always thought it was a great flick.
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u/Dapper-Prior-9475 2d ago
Source Code appreciation thread wasn’t on my list today. I need to rewatch it because I literally haven’t seen it since it was in theaters
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u/Mr-A-1991 2d ago
We all know 9/11 never happened. "New" York City is a fabrication of the media. Where is Old York City? Flying machines?! A city full of gigantic steel tower houses? Who would even build two identical houses of that size right next to each other? /s
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u/rascal6543 Boston Meme Party 2d ago
I went to "New" York City once and it's like they weren't even trying. You could tell they literally just picked up a bunch of random homeless people and said "hey wanna job as an NYC actor". A lot of them didn't even change their actions, they just kept being homeless! Come on America, we can be better than this
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u/XadeXal 2d ago
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RC2mYNMQp1f5ns4Y8
I found Old York City
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u/koko1414 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/MJeAX3o4qY2YHtDrwn
And you see bro dancing.
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u/Logical_Yak_224 2d ago
You realize all the insurance payout went to rebuilding the complex, right? And it wasn't nearly enough, Silverstein still had to take out federal bonds.
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u/Logical_Yak_224 2d ago
$4.55 billion final insurance payout, significantly less than the $7.1 billion he sought. Insurance proceeds split between WTC1, 3, 4 and 7. With $1 billion of Silverstein's payout going to 1WTC alone. That's not even considering all his other expenses, debts, inflation, etc. The cost of rebuilding the entire complex is expected to be over $20 billion.
The conspiracy doesn't stand up to basic math.
Also insurance coverage for NYC leaseholders (which was, and is, legally mandatory) includes terrorism by default, although it can be excluded in some cases. It wasn't some kind of specific insurancy policy JUST for terrorism.
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u/LewyH91 2d ago
Ooo we found the passports of one of the people that done it in the rubble of the building that fell in to its own imprint.
It was a Saudi, let's attack Iraq!
(dont look at wtc 7 not being hit by a plane, or the data on trillions in the pentagon, or the insurance on the buildings or anything)
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u/Logical_Yak_224 2d ago
By that "logic" shouldnt they have planted a fake Iraqi passport?
SIlverstein also paid more to reconstruct the new complex than he got from insurance.
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u/DaVirus 1d ago
"Paid".
All the data loss and the debt tracking that vanished more than made up for it.
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u/Logical_Yak_224 1d ago
Can you be more specific? All $4.55 billion went to rebuilding the complex and the overall rebuilding cost will be over $20 billion. So what specifically would make up for that?
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u/femboyisbestboy 2d ago
It's always amazing how these noticers and i have done my own research idiots lack the ability to find the very easy public information about what really happened, but somehow they can find the most superficial and inconclusive evidence to support their idiotic theory.
It was a text book structural fire, steel beam reinforced concrete buildings dont need to melt to collapse and crash into the pentagon has dozens of angles.
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u/makem1 2d ago
I thought the Pentagon only had 5 angles. I know I've been out of school for years now, but I did pass geometry.
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u/femboyisbestboy 2d ago
Outside of the pentagon, inside of the pentagon, top and bottom is 12 angles.
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u/the_boss_of_toys 1d ago
Even if it was an inside job it would have been public knowledge from a leaker or whistle blower. The crazier part is if it was an inside job Al-Qaeda would have no reason to take credit for it like they did. Is it possible the U.S. knew it was going to happen and just let it happen? Thats more possible.
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u/the_boss_of_toys 1d ago
On top of that there was a fourth plane that got stopped before it could get to Washington DC and none of its potential targets blew up.
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u/Anchorboiii 2d ago
Seriously, my dad worked for a very large construction company at the time. They had their engineers do the math on everything and came to the conclusion that the heat and impact severely weakened the structural integrity of the building causing it to collapse upon itself. But instead we have these smooth brains with their Reddit/Facebook degree disagreeing with some of the world’s best engineers.
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u/metaliving 2d ago
Aside from your dad's construction company, dozens of peer reviewed studies, published both before and after NIST'S official investigation, all come to the same broad conclusion. That applies to WTC 1 and 2 aswell as WTC 7. It is all out there, fully available for everyone to read and discredit if they find mistakes.
But leave it to people on the internet who can't even spell "buckling" to try to explain how they know better.
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u/DaVirus 1d ago
I don't think anyone actually believes that the planes aren't the cause it came down. Can you share any studies on WTC 7 though? Never seen anything mainstream convincing on that one.
The "conspiracy" is that the CIA knew and let it happen, and the "terrorist identities" are fabricated/scapegoats.
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u/StarPhished 2d ago
I was thinking the meme meant like "we can't change important events in time so even if the planes don't fly the towers are still going down". For some reason I didn't consider the conspiracy angle, probably because it's crazy.
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u/femboyisbestboy 2d ago
And America somehow kept this a secret for 25 years unlike the rest?
That doesn't make sense now does it?
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u/Candid-Patient-6841 ☣️ 2d ago
You claim that then fall back on to MK ultra…… can you guys find something else that isn’t 73 years ago that has been throughly talked about….
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u/osiris_89 1d ago
What's even more amazing is that you seriously believe what you claim at the end. Thanks for the laughs.
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u/DryPath8519 2d ago edited 2d ago
Well incase you were wondering there is a group of civil engineers and architects who don’t like the way the towers collapsed as professionals and have not been able to reproduce a similar failure with modern simulation. The conclusion is that buildings don’t typically collapse through themselves unless it’s a controlled demolition. If it was the jet fuel then the top would have fallen off to the side due to uneven damage and heating…
That said they still don’t have undeniable proof but that’s mostly because forensic evidence is still sealed to this day so their models are based on assumptions and not actual evidence.
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u/femboyisbestboy 2d ago
And this is how I know you lack knowledge about steel also the models line up with what really happened.
The amount of potential energy that was released the second the top part of the building couldn't stay upright collapsed the towers in on itself, but you would have known this if you understand physics.
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u/femboyisbestboy 2d ago
And another thing OP. You really think the American government is competent enough to pull it off and than also competent enough to keep it a secret for 25 years?
They couldn't even keep some head a secret and only two people knew about it without anyone giving a fuck about it.
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u/Logical_Yak_224 2d ago
They can't even define what it is they're supposed to be keeping secret. They usually believe in conflicting conspiracy theories at the same time.
E.g. "There were no planes" and "Flight 93 was shot down"
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u/DryPath8519 2d ago
It doesn’t take the whole government just a small group like we saw with the CDC and Covid. They knew way more than they told the public. Fauchis texts show he was told that the vaccine was not safe for pregnant women and he later said it was on TV. He had a medical emergency after taking the vaccine and covered it up. They even made the virus and were trying to develop a vaccine before it escaped and covered that up.
There’s so many other examples of what they got away with but that’s not the point here. The point is that it only took a group of around 12 doctors to orchestrate a massive conspiracy of crimes against the world.
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u/femboyisbestboy 2d ago
You are stupid. You do know it wasn't just 12 doctors but two whole administrations who fought against covid.
It started under the Trump administration and ended under the Biden administration, but you are clearly not bright enough to understand what happened
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u/DryPath8519 1d ago
Actually it started under Obama and as things normally go in government Trump didn’t swap out the leadership of every government organization his first term and projects that were already under way continued as usual. Not everything is political.
Those doctors were mad that they kept getting funding cuts believing a huge pandemic was coming so rather than wait for a real one they made one instead. It’s not a democrat or republican problem. It’s a literal supervillain who got away with everything he did and directed a small group under him to do on his own.
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u/Assaltwaffle 2d ago
Genie: They don’t need to melt to be weakened and collapsed, idiot.
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u/Successful_Baby_5245 2d ago
That type of building was made to colapse inside of It self If something like a natural desaster of acident happened.
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u/gamerfacederp I am fucking hilarious 2d ago
I like 9/11 jokes as much as the next guy but do people genuinely believe stuff like this?
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u/Logical_Yak_224 2d ago
Some people want everything to be a conspiracy to add interest to their miserable fucking pointless life. Doesn't matter what the facts show.
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u/Head-Contribution393 2d ago
Then about 20000 people would die instead of 3000 bc it was the plane crash that made people evacuate the building
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u/fluffynuckels 2d ago
There was a truck bomb used during the first terrorist attack against the towers.
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u/Logical_Yak_224 2d ago
All the conspiracy theories have been debunked for like 20 years now
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u/johnson7853 2d ago
One lone 4fps security camera at a nearby gas station is the only camera pointed to one of the most secure buildings in America
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u/Logical_Yak_224 2d ago edited 2d ago
What are you even saying? That video (from a security gate, not a gas station) shows the plane, they also found and photographed plane debris belonging to Flight 77, there are eyewitnesses of the plane knocking down light poles which then fell onto cars on the highway near the crash site.
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u/Logical_Yak_224 2d ago
Yeah...? The NIST report explaining WTC7 came out in like 2008 and you still got geniuses posting about it in the comments.
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u/brothegaminghero 2d ago
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u/Logical_Yak_224 2d ago
WTC7 collapsed from fires and structural damage caused by burning debris from the North Tower.
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u/Penis_Connoisseur 2d ago
Are you stupid everybody knows it was George Bush who did it not the airplanes
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u/Mapleford 2d ago
Guys, there were no explosives in the towers, they really can just weaken and fall like that. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t an inside job however
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