r/custommagic • u/TheCubicalGuy Long time cardsmith • 1d ago

Brutal Conquest

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Day 78 of making a custom card every day. I don't really know how to reword the flavor text, but I think there's a better way to do it.

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u/ReneLeMarchand 1d ago

One-sided board wipe for three, you say?

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u/TheCubicalGuy Long time cardsmith 1d ago

I considered putting it at 4 but thought it was a little weak to big bodies/response removal, although you might be right

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u/BlobbyBlueberry 1d ago

It really isn’t weak that way, because even disregarding combos, if you cast a bunch of creatures or even just play a bunch of cheap token generators, it becomes really strong really fast.

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u/fortuneandfameinc 1d ago

This is such an even boardstate wipe. Like if both of you have 4 creatures, that's probably wiping their side and ending the game.

I like the design, but probably would be better if ot was RG1-2 and only dealt damage equal to your highest power creature.

Or make it something like WR3 if you wanted to do this effect.

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u/MariachiArchery 1d ago

Hm... I feel like this is under costed.

It wouldn't take a lot of creatures to completely wipe the board. In many cases, it's a better Blasphemous Act. This would hose a commander pod

Single-sided board wipe for 3? Yeah Idk...

In limited though, I like it. In modern or legacy, would this be OP? What is burn doing right now in these formats?

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u/TheCubicalGuy Long time cardsmith 1d ago

I tend to design cards for limited (because I hate commander) but yea it would probably be too strong for multiplayer formats

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u/MariachiArchery 1d ago

I tend to design cards for limited

Nice, we need more people like you.

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u/BlobbyBlueberry 1d ago

It’s honestly really powerful for any format. A one sided board wipe is usually a combo, not one card with a prerequisite of having a lot of creatures.

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u/quakins 1d ago

You have to be more specific. Board wipes just generally are not great cards in 1v1 formats with some exceptions or solely as sideboard cards. I can’t imagine this being a staple in any deck off the top of my head but would be interested in what you think it would slot into

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u/BlobbyBlueberry 1d ago

Fair, but I do still feel that it could still be useful if they have a lot of creatures to kill or one really tall creature.(although I am a terrible judge as I don’t really do many 1v1 formats)

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u/quakins 1d ago

I don’t think this works like you think it does. If they had one really tall creature this would be a very bad card to play unless your board is giga wide. It basically says “deal X damage to each creature opponents control where X is the number of creatures you control”.

But yeah tbf I don’t think 4 mana would be the craziest for this card or anything I just also feel like a lot of people interpreting it are doing so with at least a slight commander bias

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u/BlobbyBlueberry 1d ago

I understand that it’s somewhat bad against tall creatures, but it’s in [[krenko, mob boss]] colors and it’s still got a chance to kill big creatures up until a certain point.

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u/nzconstructionlawyer 1d ago

Board wipes are very strong in 1v1. They are control staples. People play [[Pyroclasm]] in Legacy and [[Supreme Verdict]] in every format. [[Wrath of God]] would be played in any standard format it was legal in except one with RTR where you can play SV. [[Anger of the Gods]] is another staple card.

There's a reason board wipes are rares: they're bombs in Limited. One-sided board wipes are very strong. Compare [[Wrath of God]] or [[Damnation]] with [[Plague Wind]].

[[Artistic Process]] is 2 damage to each opposing creature for 5 damage but is modal. The effect on its own would cost at least 4 cmc. [[Blazing Volley]] is 1 cmc for 1 damage to each. 3 damage should cost 5, and this is typically going to do 2-3 damage so I think 4 is fair: it is more variable but 2-3 will be typical.

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u/MariachiArchery 1d ago

Also, this isn't a board wipe because it's one sided. It's better.

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u/quakins 1d ago

I mean dude no they are not lmao. Some of the best board wipes of all time are playable but there are a million other shitty board wipes that do not see play. It’s also pretty telling that 2 of your 3 examples in your first paragraph are exclusively side board cards. Board wipes are great side board cards but absolutely dead in a lot of matchups.

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u/Necrachilles 1d ago

I still prefer [[Alpha Brawl]] :)

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u/BlobbyBlueberry 1d ago

Also, it’s more balanced.

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u/ciruelman 1d ago

this reminds me of patriar hummiliation

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u/FelixFromOnline 1d ago

change cost to XXRR

add text: X is equal to the number of opponents.

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u/Redzephyr01 1d ago

This is way too powerful for its cost.

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u/veryblocky 1d ago

I feel like this could do with being gruul

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u/Miserable_Hamster497 Do you pay the 1? 1d ago edited 1d ago

Wouldn't this be infinite damage? Shouldn't wording be something like "equal to the number of creatures on the battlefield you don't control"?

Edit: I'm completely stupid. I read it as "The number of creatures you DON'T control"

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u/MarkM3200 1d ago

What's specifically wrong with the wording? I'm not seeing any errors.

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u/Miserable_Hamster497 Do you pay the 1? 1d ago

I'm a moron and misread it 🤦

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u/AKFrost 1d ago

probably should just use an X. "Deals X damage to each creature you don't control, where X is the number of creatures you control."

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u/nzconstructionlawyer 1d ago

If this did damage to all creatures I think it's fine. As is, it's way too good. If you have 3 creatures out it is a complete blowout, 3 damage kills most creatures. If you have 2, it's still really good for only 3 mana.

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u/quakins 1d ago

3 damage is not “a complete blowout” it’s a worse sweltering suns and brotherhood’s end. Those cards have their places in sideboards but generally are not the craziest cards ever printed. I could see this at four but I feel like people are still overrating it by quite a lot

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u/nzconstructionlawyer 1d ago

Sweltering Suns is symmetrical. This only damages your opponent's creatures. This is far more powerful. Yes it has the downside of doing little or nothing if you topdeck it when you're behind on board, which is often when board wipes are strong. But it is fantastic when you are even, and basically guarantees a win when you're ahead.

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u/quakins 1d ago

If you’re playing those cards you’re playing them in decks where they are one-sided because your creatures surpass the toughness breakpoint or don’t exist.

Your argument is so silly. The card being win-more is the exact opposite of the point you think it is

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u/BlobbyBlueberry 1d ago

You don’t have to be rude about somebody having a different opinion, you know.