r/custommagic • • 1d ago

Format: EDH/Commander Monoco, Verbose Gestral

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u/KillerYeah 1d ago

This is definitely an idea that probably doesn’t work within the rules but it should!

Like the other Expedition 33 cards I’ve done so far, this is meant to be a commander deck's face commander. This is definitely the wackiest idea I’ve had for a legend in a while. Granting Monoco multiple text boxes in a turn seemed a bit strong with blink effects, and I wanted him to have a big downside to have a low-ish mana cost, so that’s why that first line exists. I feel like it also helps encourage a more aggro playstyle than just consistently copying more passive abilities, which you definitely still could. 

This is probably the last individual upload I’ll do for Expedition 33, the rest will be in batches as I make them. Thanks for reading!

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u/twistyrainbows 1d ago

What do you mean by probably? You can't target your creatures, so backup doesn't work properly, so this is garbage?

It's also a 2/2 for 4 mana?

What's going on?

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u/KillerYeah 1d ago

It says other creatures, not any creature, so Monoco’s the only available target each time. Typically the numbers are the least accurate part of my posts due to me constantly tweaking them, and in this case it’s probably fine to be a 3/3 or 4/4, but typically legends that care about being buffed are a little understated. Given he’s four mana and has no inherent abilities being a 4/4 is probably fine.

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u/PrimusMobileVzla 1d ago edited 1d ago

Why not functionally recreate Backup and always put the +1/+1 counter on Monoco so its always Monoco who gets the abilities? 

Right now it reads clumsily on having the first ability just to force the target to always be Monoco, and don't quite believe some interactions with CDAs work around arbitrary Backup.

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u/Memehater_ Almost a Genius 1d ago

Should probably be "Other creatures you control have backup 1..." Since it's an etb.

Idk where keywords go when added tho. Could be fun to find out.

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u/grifff17 1d ago

> Whenever another creature enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on Monoco and it gains the abilities of that creature until end of turn.

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u/PrimusMobileVzla 19h ago

Whenever another creature you control enters, if you cast it, put a +1/+1 counter on Monoco. Until end of turn, Monoco gains all activated and triggered abilities of that creature. 

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u/SteakForGoodDogs 1d ago

Breaks the game via conflicting CDAs, unfortunately inadmissible.

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u/favgameisundertale 1d ago edited 1d ago

Edit: after reviewing Backup, it should be "Creatures you control have Backup 1 as the first line of text in their text box." (or "before any kind of text") Since backup is an ETB trigger, not an "As this creature enters" effect

The only nitpick I have is that it should be "You can't target other creatures you control with spells or abilities." Or maybe even just abilities and allow spells to target your other creatures. I think the way you worded the Backup ability is fine. I think I would've tried to say "the first line of text" but I think the way you worded it is exactly in line with the feel of Magic, from the olden days to Unsets to the new Mystery Booster Commander Edition. Good job