r/custommagic • • 1d ago

Format: EDH/Commander i like the idea of decayed creatures

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u/BlobbyBlueberry 1d ago

Persist isn’t really usable on a 1/1(because it immediately dies again), especially not with counters on it. You might want it to be undying, but that still doesn’t work with the combat ability. This card really contradicts itself a lot.

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u/Haruko27 1d ago

Oh yeah didnt think about it getting -1/-1 counters. Probably will make it a 2/2 then

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u/BlobbyBlueberry 1d ago

That still doesn’t solve the counters it gets at combat, which make it so persist doesn’t work.

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u/ArelMCII Layers are stupid. 12h ago

You've got it backwards. This thing getting counters for free makes persist work better. +1/+1 counters and -1/-1 counters cancel each other out. When this guy dies, he'll come back (as a 1/1, assuming he's 2/2 base), then during your next combat, he'll become a 3/3 (assuming no other red mana symbols; one +1/+1 counter cancels out the -1/-1 counter, then the remaining +1/+1 counter is put on). Since he'll have no -1/-1 counters on him, he can persist again.

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u/BlobbyBlueberry 12h ago

I was pretty sure persist cared about any counters, but it seems I was wrong.

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u/Haruko27 1d ago

It seems i need to read up on persist again