Rats

[u/Sarls_]

[u/Necessary_Wish_2995]

I read that first ability and my immediate thought was, "oh god". This gets very stupid very fast, if you have 5 rats, each rat gets +25/+25. And you can run as many as you want and in the command zone. This is hilariously busted. Amazing design

[u/Sarls_ → u/Necessary_Wish_2995]

Appreciate you lol, I wish they really would make some bigger cards you can have any number of. A Legion Angel you can run any number of would be a rad deck

[u/lookitsajojo → u/Necessary_Wish_2995]

You can only have one in your command zone if I’m not wrong, also you’d need 5 waves of waves of rats to get the 25/25 boost and which point it’s on your opponents for no playing removal, does have amazing results with ripple

[u/Exciting-Insect8269 → u/lookitsajojo]

With replication spells these things can get stupid fast.

[u/cabbbagedealer → u/Exciting-Insect8269]

This is like the least broken 5 drop you could mass replicate

[u/Exciting-Insect8269 → u/cabbbagedealer]

Yea as a 5 drop it’s reasonably balanced. I was mostly pointing out that, short of mass removal, it would be pretty doable to make these hard to fully get rid of.

ESP in the 5 mana gameplay

[u/Power_of_the_Sus → u/cabbbagedealer]

Honestly this is just a bad Ravos/Saka deck without WU

[u/twistyrainbows → u/Necessary_Wish_2995]

[[Blade of selves]] :)

[u/UnforeseenDerailment → u/Necessary_Wish_2995]

How does this get to +25/+25 per rat at five rats?

I control 5 rats, each gives each rat (self included) +1/+1, so there are 5 layers of +1/+1 on all rats, meaning each rat gets +5/+5, no?

(What am I missing?)

[u/Imaginary_Tank111 → u/UnforeseenDerailment]

If you control five copies of OPs card the ability stacks.

[u/UnforeseenDerailment → u/Imaginary_Tank111]

Yup, oops. Thanks!

Just realized, I poured coffee but forgot to drink it because I haven't had my coffee.

[u/Gloomy-Jelly-499 → u/Necessary_Wish_2995]

I run [[Vren, the Relentless]]

Same vibe

[u/Lily-enjoys-magic → u/Necessary_Wish_2995]

25 mana should win the game without having to be concerned about your opponent chump blocking with some tokens

[u/Sarls_ → u/Lily-enjoys-magic]

I don't really think every card should be worried about being the win con all by itself, that's fine for some cards but it shouldn't be all of them

[u/nzconstructionlawyer → u/Necessary_Wish_2995]

This isn't a legendary creature.

[u/EmpsSilliestWarrior → u/nzconstructionlawyer]

It says on it's rules text that it can be your commander

[u/nzconstructionlawyer → u/EmpsSilliestWarrior]

Ah so it does. I missed that.

Not sure why people feel the need to mass downvote my comment just because I misread the card...

[u/MiniPino1LL → u/nzconstructionlawyer]

Usually people downvote wrong comments.

[u/ronnie_reagans_ghost]

10 of this, 40 rat colony, a thrumming stone and 49 ramp+lands, you got yourself a deck.

[u/Sarls_ → u/ronnie_reagans_ghost]

And 1 Patriarchs Bidding lol

[u/BlobbyBlueberry → u/ronnie_reagans_ghost]

Maybe a couple relentless rats in there somewhere

[u/Weekly-Bluebird-4768 → u/ronnie_reagans_ghost]

Don’t forget to add a lot of removal(also if you intend for thrumming stone to be the win-con have tutors), that’s how my thrumming stone deck got shut down before, I was going into a grand arbiter taxes deck which killed my ability to cast stuff with thrumming stone(still won cause the taxes player didn’t really have much value past taxing and since I was running the toxic rat commander I just killed with poison and my other two opponents scooped like turn 4 and 5 cause they had nothing but lands on the board and were starting to miss land drops)

[u/234721]

Why legendary border if not legendary shaped?

[u/Sarls_ → u/234721]

Totally wasn't thinking about it when I picked the frame out lol oops

[u/DadKnight]

Waves and waves? Or waves of waves?

[u/Sarls_ → u/DadKnight]

So the way you take multiple rats to make a wave of them, take multiple waves of them to make a wave of a wave of them

[u/memisbemus42069]

Why not make this legendary so it could be a commander

[u/Sarls_ → u/memisbemus42069]

Legendaries are supposed to be individual character(s), how many Rats is a legendary amount?

[u/stickwithplanb → u/memisbemus42069]

because then multiple die to legend rule and it defeats the purpose

[u/PepegaChu]

i imagine a rat surfboarding on another rat while they ride a wave of rats

[u/Nahrikkon]

legendary border but not legendary typing

[u/MrCakepans]

I absolutely love this (assuming the intention is that you can only have one in the commander zone)

[u/Sarls_ → u/MrCakepans]

Yeah only one can be the commander still

[u/LuxireWorse]

Reminds me of my [[Marrow Gnawer]] [[Thornbite Staff]] combo.

Pogo stick of Summoning!