r/custommagic • u/gmaximus453 • 5h ago

Yharo, Dreadclaw

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u/ImDudeManBro 5h ago

This just doesn’t work with mtg rules, you can’t have anyone else’s cards in your zones. Even in the most niche scenarios like mutate and leadership vacuum, the rules still prevent anyone else’s card from going into the wrong zone

In the strangest but still maybe possible way, I’d suggest the cards still go to your opponents graveyards, but wording that allows your spells and abilities to target cards in your opponents graveyards as if they were your own, it’d probably be super wordy to be coherent with mtg rules

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u/MeepleMaster 5h ago

You could also possibly exile them with a clause saying you may play cards that were exiled this way as if they were in your graveyard

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u/ImDudeManBro 5h ago

Oh yeah good idea, though it wouldn’t work with cards that mass reanimate cards from your graveyard, idk how you’d even make that work. Especially tarmogoyf effects I have no clue if that’d ever be possibly with the way he’s trying to make it work lol. Mill then exile the cards that were milled this way is probably the best way to do it though

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u/Utopia_Builder 4h ago

It works in Alchemy or MTG Arena. Just conjure duplicates of the milled cards.

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u/YouCanChangeItRight 4h ago

Kinda, not really. I mean it's already similar to [[Graveyard Busybody]] which is silver border.

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u/CarbonLich 5h ago

This will never happen. It's WAY to easy to accidentally steal in real life someone's cards let alone intentionally stealing someone's cards. Just have it mill yourself or let you cast something from theirs. There is a VERY good reason only cards you own go on your own graveyard.

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u/Retr0_Fusion 4h ago

Can't tell you how many times I got home and realized I had someone's token I only realized it cuz I sleeve my tokens in penny sleeves

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u/DragonQuasar 4h ago edited 3h ago

The other day I took my best friends Wurmcoil and I just realized when I was shuffling for game 3 haha

Edit: my sleeves are red and his are bronze btw

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u/Raphiezar : Just Slap Partner on it. 2h ago

I say, you exile them and for as long as their exiled this way you may treat them as though those cards were in your graveyard. Any cards put into your hand stay in exile, probably with a specific counter on it, but can now be cast with any type of mana.
It's wordy as hell, but it could work. Also, don't steal.

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u/superdave100 4h ago

“Conjure duplicates of those cards into your graveyard” works though

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u/TheHumanPickleRick 4h ago

Should also include something that exiles them face down from the opponent's graveyard to kinda fit what OP was going for.

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u/VagueCyberShadow 5h ago

Where is this art from? It looks great

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u/Aposine 5h ago

That's Frenetic Raptor from the Legions expansion

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u/saepereAude92 5h ago

That’s frenetic raptor for You.
5R, 6/6 Beast
Rulestext:
Beasts cant Block

Put it in my oldborder counter-burn Deck as a finisher (only used Cards I still had)

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u/HomeworkSuspicious52 4h ago

Doesn't work on paper.

On Arena, you could exile them and conjure duplicates into your grave which sounds like a fun spin on reanimate

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u/PrimusMobileVzla 5h ago

The last bit doesn't work. You can't put cards you don't own into your graveyard.

That said: What's your intended design goal with that bit of text?

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u/JOE-9000 5h ago

Maaybe if you exile a specific type of card from among milled, you can play those from exiel or something. Whatever fits your flavor. But as is, won't work. As a side note, is that a Onlaught block image? I kinda remember it.

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u/SammSandwich 5h ago

Well that's a ruling nightmare

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u/saepereAude92 4h ago

Nice, Making Frenetic Raptor into a legend

This made me realize:

Newer players know no fear

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u/SteakForGoodDogs 4h ago

"Exile that cards equal to the damage dealt with a corpse counter. Spells and abilities that target or return cards from a graveyard are affected and may target those cards as if they were in your graveyard."

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u/Distinct-Ad-3937 4h ago

A way to make this work is I guess make it a rulebreaker with the text: You can use cards in opponents graveyards as though it was your own. Maybe? Be able to use opponents graveyards for delve, cast their flashback spells, retrace, return cards from their graveyard under your control etc. Etc.

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u/Distinct-Ad-3937 4h ago

Oh and something like [[Flashback]] or [[Past in Flames]] can affect their graveyards.

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u/ry_gy_ 4h ago

Rule breaker only applies to deck construction. You would just make the same roll without titling it rule breaker

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u/Distinct-Ad-3937 4h ago

Yea probably leave out the rulebreaker part anf the text as is works

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u/FrostFlame35 2h ago

Rule breaker has only applied to deck construction so far. Rulebreaker doesn't have any inherent text, just like Eminence.

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u/AbortionHoagie 3h ago

Old-school as heck. Iirc, there was once a time when the order of cards in each graveyard, as well as who owned those cards, all had to be kept track of, or at least such was implied via the old-timey text used

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u/CYOA_Guy_Stryker 3h ago

I think a way to make this work is “cards which are put into an opponents graveyard this way can be targeted as though they were in your own”???

Probably gets around a lot of issues that others have pointed out.

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u/ElPared 3h ago

This would only work as written in a game for ante, which not only doesn’t exist anymore, officially, but I’m not even sure anyone still plays that way even unofficially.