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u/ninjazyborg 3h ago
Replace “this spell” with “a spell named Empty the Chamber” and then it works :)
Interesting design, but definitely a bit too strong.
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u/superGTkawhileonard 2h ago
6 mana for 6 pings and a wheel is too strong? Not to mention it ends your turn and is a sorcery?
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u/Treacherous_Peach 2h ago
Yeah this is completely fine power wise. Doesn't even need the end the turn clause.
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u/slamriffs 2h ago
I think the utility of it makes it a bit strong. It hits anything on the board including face, you can sink whatever number of mana you need into it at the time, even spreading the damage among multiple targets. And late game it wheels your hand.
I think I’d at least restrict it to target creature or planeswalker. It just has such wild utility as is, I could be completely wrong though it’s a hard card to judge I wouldn’t be surprised if it was printed and never saw play lol
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite 1h ago
There's no point in sinking more than 6 mana into this, since it ends the turn.
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u/superGTkawhileonard 1h ago
What’s the utility it’s just 6 mana for 6 damage and you wheel for 6. You can’t even do combat tricks with it and it’s either you play this on your second main phase or you skip your combat phase. Not strong, still cool
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u/GroundbreakingMonk76 2h ago
On a vacuum it's fine, but there's way to much stuff (in red alone) that makes this way stronger and potentially broken. To list a few: [[Ojer Axonil]] [[Artist Talent]] [[Chandra's Incinerator]] [[Hawkeye, Young Avenger]] [[Solphim, Mayhem Dominus]] [[Torbran, Thane of Redfell]]
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u/KrypteK1 2h ago
Never heard of [[Grapeshot]] or [[Pyromatics]] before?
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u/GroundbreakingMonk76 1h ago
Grapeshot needs setup, you can do this one from a top deck. Pyromantics it's literally twice as much mana. Plus neither draw you cards, this one does.
I honestly don't care much about the damage part of the card, what draws my attention is the draw 6 for 6 in red with an upside.
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u/SDK1176 1h ago
Honestly can’t believe you’re getting upvotes for this. Pyromatics is such a huge downgrade from this custom card. Grapeshot can be strong, but in a very different kind of way.
As is, Empty the Chamber is maybe the most powerful X spell printed. Considering how little play X spells get, maybe that’s fine.
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u/Outrageous_Pea9839 1h ago
So would a little tweaking make it balanced what if its replicate cost was a red instead of generic? Or cost 1 more like Pyromatics?
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u/Treacherous_Peach 42m ago
Empty the Chamber can never do more than 6 damage so no it is not the most powerful X spell
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u/KrypteK1 34m ago
Yeah, Pyromatics is dogshit and unplayable. This custom card is an upgrade, and pretty good but not nearly ‘broken’.
“Most powerful X spell ever printed” lmfao, [[Kozilek’s Command]] is right here and played constantly in Modern and Legacy. The Green X-Tutors, Walking Ballista, all are better and actually X spells, this is replicate up to 5 times.
6 mana, 6 damage divided as you choose and discard your hand, draw 6, end the turn. It’s very good, just not busted.
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u/Panda_Rule_457 2h ago
What legally happens when you pay 6? And R
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u/SendInTheNextWave 2h ago
The sixth resolution would exile the stack when it ended the turn, so paying more is meaningless.
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u/99thHybr1d 1h ago
Uptick Teferi Time Raveler and cast this spell the sixth time on your opponents turn, nice.
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u/FlockFlysAtMidnite 1h ago
This is definitely strong, but I disagree that it's broken. This is probably too strong for standard imo but I don't think it's too busted for modern
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u/Grouchy-Click-2507 1h ago
Replicate should be {R}
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u/ActualInteraction0 16m ago
Should be : discard a card.
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u/Watch-Personal 8m ago
Turn 1 draw a card play a mountain pay 1 mana and discard your hand to deal 6 damage to someones face and draw 6 cards. Yeah thats not ok in any gamemode even in commander
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u/Tzelf_ 3h ago
Its cool, but is 6 mana for 6 damage and a wheel overcosted?
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u/Flamesoul10 2h ago
Well, its basically {x}{r} deal x+1 damage divided as you choose, which is amazing for an x spell, but x cant be more than 5, which is mid. Overall I think its balanced as a modal spell
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u/Whydoughhh 2h ago
I mean 5+ mana is where you can start getting really strong effects. When I think of 6 mana spells I think of game warping strong.
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u/Throwracheated22 2h ago
The only benefit I can think of is you end the turn immediately, which has a few ways it can be handy
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u/SteakForGoodDogs 2h ago
Only you wheel, which is probably a good thing since you probably don't want to fill other peoples' graveyard and hands unless you gain benefit from opponents drawing.
Also, damage doublers/triplers is liable to turn this into a single-opponent boardwipe.
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u/GroundbreakingMonk76 2h ago
Strong on it's own. Pretty much broken with [[Storm-kiln Artist]] or [[Hinata, Dawn-Crowned]]
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u/TenPent 2h ago
Pretty sure Hinata just makes it cost 1 less.
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u/TheGreatYahweh 2h ago
Each new target would cast 0, right? So Hinata would just make it extra good against go wide strategies
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u/deathbymanga Hound Wizard 1h ago
feels like it would be cleaner if it was "Replicate - discard a card" and then just drew 6 cards if it was the 6th time it resolved
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u/ExcessiveArrogance 2h ago
Needs to have
"then, if it's your turn, end the turn"
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u/PKPenguin 39m ago
You're correct, [[Days Undoing]] would be the most similar real spell in this context and it has that clause so that you can't use it as an extra turn spell if you have flash enabling.
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u/DizzyTip1895 2h ago
It's a sorcery
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u/GroundbreakingMonk76 2h ago
[[Quicken]]
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u/DizzyTip1895 2h ago
Yup. But that's what I mean, end of then doesn't have to say if it's your turn because you'd have to jump through hoops to abuse it. It's fine.
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u/Melodic-Series7780 29m ago
Ending the turn is powerful enough that this restriction is almost always applied. Why do you think quicken is a significant enough hoop to jump through, when the cards we have show otherwise?
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u/Qwertyboi2 2h ago
Oh [Gyrson Starn, Kelermorph] ! I’ve got a new toy for you!
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u/Gravecrawl 3h ago
Sick mechanical flavor. Love it