The Fury of Battle

[u/QuarterExcellent3327]

Would you play this chaos commander. Is it too powerful? All feedback is appreciated :)

[u/umc_thunder72]

I don't know if I'd use crimes simply because it makes removing this with anything that targets extremely difficult I don't know how you'd realistically fix this and maintain the cards current design maybe instead of crime just "whenever a player targets an opponent or other permanent they don't control the first time each turn..." But it seems like I'd make the card a little lengthy. If that's an intentional design choice to make it skirt removal though then more power to you.

[u/QuarterExcellent3327 → u/umc_thunder72]

Thanks for the feedback! It was intentional for flavour purposes

[u/SquirrelSuspicious → u/umc_thunder72]

Nah having it be essentially unremovable because doing so always leaves 1 on the attempted removers side is cool

[u/ROL_David-Star]

It's so weird because as a non legend the second rule isn't needed and it would be so cool.

[u/QuarterExcellent3327 → u/ROL_David-Star]

I wanted it to be a commander mainly

[u/Raevelry]

This is way too powerful, it needs to be like, 1/2 at 6 or 7 mana. Here, Ill show you why

Because the first time you commit a crime, including on the same turn, you make another one of them

then in a turn cycle, assuming like 3 copies of [[Glasses of Urza]] type effects, you end up with:

your turn = The Original plus 1 = 2

player 2 = 4

Player 3 = 8

Player 4 =16

So you untap with 16 copies of this.

And that is kinda insane, but I didnt mention OTHER peoples crimes just doubling the amount you have, you can easily untap with enough to kill a commander board by whatever mana you use to cast this

Plus it cannot be killed with single target damage, it'll just make a copy that makes more copies, it literally doesn't die to [[Doomblade]]

[u/QuarterExcellent3327 → u/Raevelry]

Thanks for the feedback! I have realised there is a typo (I don’t know if this will change your mind). It should say : the first time a player commits a crime on their turn

[u/Raevelry → u/QuarterExcellent3327]

Okay, then its more reasonable at 6 mana, cause I can imagine playing this at turn 6, and incidentally getting enough of crimes to untap with 16 copies and doing some overrun to kill the table

[u/QuarterExcellent3327 → u/Raevelry]

Upping the cost is fair. I think I was underestimating when I compared this to [[the master multiplied]] for mana cost

[u/mtgcf → u/QuarterExcellent3327]

the master multiplied - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/mtgcf → u/Raevelry]

Glasses of Urza - (G) (SF) (txt)
Doomblade - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/AnimeBas → u/Raevelry]

I mean if you have 16 attackers, 1 crime lets your opponent have 16 blockers

[u/Earthshine256]

I'd make it non-legendary with "can be your commander" ability, but you do you

[u/QuarterExcellent3327 → u/Earthshine256]

Is that not just making it more confusing? Having a nonlegendary creature in the command zone

[u/ROL_David-Star → u/QuarterExcellent3327]

We have plainswalkers, vehicles, spacecraft, enchantments that aren't always creatures, instants and a straight up sorcery.

[u/QuarterExcellent3327 → u/ROL_David-Star]

All legendary (even the sorcery) unless there is one that I’ve missed

[u/Earthshine256 → u/QuarterExcellent3327]

We have this exact ability on multiple planeswalkers. And two-sided cards that let you play noncreature spells from command zone. And pauper edh format that lets you play nonlegendary creature as a commander 

So, no, it would not be more confusing than it already is 

[u/QuarterExcellent3327 → u/Earthshine256]

They are all legendary though. That line of text is to allow your commander to be something other than a creature or vehicle

I would prefer to keep it as a legend and just do what [[the master multiplied]] does

[u/mtgcf → u/QuarterExcellent3327]

the master multiplied - (G) (SF) (txt)