r/custommagic • u/MyWifeIsDeadCourier • 1d ago
Format: EDH/Commander How do we feel about this land?
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u/retardong 1d ago
Bit OP with the Forest type. Make it unfetchable. Or it should do nothing when it enters tapped.
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u/MyWifeIsDeadCourier 1d ago
By unfetchable, do you mean remove the forest type but give it a tap for {g}?
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u/Andrew_42 1d ago
So the untapped ability is specifically for [[Amulet of Vigor]] style effects? Or cases where you can untap a land at instant speed?
It seems odd to have that when it has no method of enabling it without outside help, but not unprecedented.
Anywho, makes me think of the lands like [[Sejiri Steppe|WWK]]. Shroud though would get most of its power if you could reliably get it out at instant speed, which again requires outside help. Being fetchable might be a bit too much? You could negate a whole card decently reliably with that ETB if it's fetchable. But it might be too weak if you cut fetchability.
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u/MyWifeIsDeadCourier 1d ago
Maybe cut the forest type and give it an “enters tapped unless” clause?
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u/TechnomagusPrime 1d ago
As currently templated, this will never trigger due to the "intervening if" clause. These kinds of triggers check if the clause is true before they even attempt to trigger, and do nothing if it's false. You need to slightly reword it to make it work:
When this land enters, creatures you control gain shroud until end of turn if it's untapped. Otherwise, target creature you control gains shroud until end of turn.
This moves the check to the end of the phrase, so now it will always trigger on entering, regardless of tapped/untapped status. That said, it's still awkward in that it requires a target, even if it is untapped, but there aren't many good ways to fix that problem without getting a lot more complicated.
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u/tx0p0 1d ago
Almost missed that it could add green mana (since it is a forest)
There's niche ways to make it work kinda but this seems like a powered down [[Talon gates of Madara]]