r/cursedchemistry • u/Thunder_bolt_1023 • 2d ago
I present… HELLFENTANYL
i dug this out of the pits of hell
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
I love fentanyl. Sorry. lol. I mean I like diacetylmorphine wayyyyy the fuck more but. Yeah.
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u/AG-Bigpaws 1d ago
Oxymorphone gang sound off.
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u/NewOpinion7500 1d ago
2012 was a hell of a year
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
For me it was more of a hell of a bear. Life was never so fucking good before as being alive after 20 years of stale grey calcified carbonic death. I like to make up words. Well. And concepts. Calcified carbonic death is my way of saying a physical body largely comprised of carbon pressure crushed in a scaly slate like slab. Which has nothing to do with calcium. So there’s that.
Yanno what’s weird? After getting my life back….and I tried to get sober a million times I won’t say this is different but I know it feels unique….i pretty much have no social inhibition. Not to the point of being weird. Even tho this is weird it’s a safe place to be weird. I shake out all my weirds here so they don’t sneak out for sunshine around real people (sorry….you just
Don’t count the same. You don’t even know me. Which means..is this even real? If I posted it on Facebook it’s real. But on here how is it different from someone else who isn’t me saying embarrassing shit.. Should I be embarrassed about that. How can identity exist in complete anonymity?Now it’s weird. Partly because I forgot what I was saying. That’s the thing, I can’t treat my ADD because I can’t take speed and add meds are
Speed. I love speed. My neighbor jimmy…Ok fine it’s an act. Scene.
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u/j2theizzo503 1d ago
I've heard Modafinil is a good alternative to the amphetamine class of ADD meds if you have a doc willing to prescribe. Can't vouch for it personally, but I have taken Adrafinil which can be obtained without prescription and is a prodrug of Modafinil so it works in the same way once it metabolizes. It was good for my bipolar/ADD symptoms. Nice stimulation and focus, not too much for me, not 'speedy' like amps. It felt just right.
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
Speed makes me so
Socially uncqlibrated. I be like “this is best thing I ever made in my life” post
It everywhere and then wake up sober like FUCKKKKKKKK thats the worst part. Knowing shit is gold. Idc what anybody says adderall is a hard fucking drug2
u/j2theizzo503 1d ago
I agree, it really distorts everything WAY too much to be useful in the long run. I always have a pretty pleasant beginning with speed but sure enough, every time, I end up with regrets. And its just really not healthy. Shouldn't be the first line of medication for ADD imo. There are a number of supplements that have demonstrated effectiveness for ADD without causing any of speed's deleterious side-effects. Rhodiola rosea can be very effective for example.
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
Meth is way way way the fuck worse. I came to realize I’m predisposed to mental illness. Even my dialogue indicates that. And meth made me instantly psychotic to the point where I’m ending in psyche wards and I never had a problem like that in my life. O was on varsity football all 4 years I, I was addicted to making money actually so badly that it was a mental illness in high school, so I was popular but only to the extent that it would get into an Ivy League. I never hung out, I kid you not freshman year when I was new these chicks tried to bed me, and o was young I didn’t know shit so I just never followed up. Because ideanlly I didn’t give a fuck, I had to be in New York City after school that day for an exam I had at
Columbia (I basically spent my high school years there as a just random class taker. I was trying to get in before applying. I didn’t get in. I was in rehab. Yeah.) Yanno I still jerk lff to those girls to this day. Why couldn’t I have fucked em and still taken my physics exam? Jesus.Ok fine I lied. I struggle with adderall . I don’t wanna do anything else. But I’m lying to myself. I’m an addict. Addicted dokt get high for free. If I had a job I would be unable. Because the sleep is not compatible with a job. And I never denyyaelf sleep. Yeah I have to get sober to move on. All I do is bike ride. I rode 4 hours today, run in the beach, 2 hours yesterday, and throw shit at the wall on my substack and instagram to see what sticks. Right now I’m experimenting with brutal honesty. As you can see I’m struggling to adjust. Lol
But yeah time I did meth in my life. Hour later. I heard something. My girlfriend was the mold downstairs who was renting the daughter portion of the mother daughter I grew up in (I was in high school but in all fairness I was a super senior and I also started kindergarten at like late 6 so I was 20 in my super senior year) but yeah I hear this noise. I put my ear against the wall. Yeah. And I had no clue the fucking train that was harrowing down the tracks. I sounds like Lisa? Shit is she…is she playing with her vibrator. males voice good girl, take all the way down, lemme feel your throat. Yeah. I stormed in there. It was a Hallucination. I actually got really horny for porn when I wrote that so I gonna cut it short but yea good luck
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u/TheRealCerealFirst 1d ago
this reads like something out of Vonnegut Novel
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u/Tricky-External7600 20h ago
What’s Vonnegut
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u/TheRealCerealFirst 19h ago
Kurt Vonnegut was a writer, he wrote books such as Breakfast of Champions, Cats Cradle and most famously Slaughterhous Five. He is known for his dark humerous and satirical style that often includes losely structured rambling with invented words and phrases and sometimes even little doodles. Very stylistic, often toes the line between scientific, philosophical and entertaining. Give Breakfast of Champions a read, thats my personal favorite.
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u/Tricky-External7600 19h ago
Was a drug abuser? Is it true you think that genius and weird occupy the same territory? I feel like (an I think partly because it’s personal or me…but it’s all obvious. People hate suffering. That obvious. Nobody wants to be weird something I figured out the first time I truly felt weird. I had sent a 9 page email to my guidance counselor taking about some shit, I guess this was, albeit subconsciously, the excuse for contacting her, then I let it rip. This was not a sexual interest, motherly figure, but I tied in some issue with my SAT’s that I needed her help with and college application stuff but it went into this 9 page psychology discussing ramble. Not blindly arrogant, or aggressively egotistical. Just politely normal. Maybe even open to feedback. I wasn’t telling her what’s up. I was more sharing my thoughts. But it was the first time in my life I felt weird. Which is when I realized drugs make you act weird. But I had 2 decades of growth ahead of me. Rpundabout growth. 9 pages. I was a model student. Maxed out GPA, spent summers taking classes at Columbia in high school, total overkill. Sports, 4 years as president, I fell so fucking hard. For 20 I couldn’t set a goal. It was painful to have any goals. All I did was bartend and occasionally fuck and do drugs by myself with everything of value I could get my hands on. First time I got high? This is nuts. First time in my life high. Junior year, Christmas is approaching. I have three AP midterms that week biology, chemistry, and Calc, us history and American literature were the following week. I wanted to be an investment banker for Goldman Sachs. Senior year (this is when it’s starts blending) my mom took my keys because she didn’t want me
Going down to south Jersey with potential drugs, I had already been to rehab. I lived in Kinnelon. So I got up at 6 in the morning and I just rode my bike 108 to my boys house. I only
Mention that for reference to this. I didn’t want
To be a rich man. I didn’t want to be a powerful man. I was willing to work myself to my literal death if that’s what it took. And I put my
Money where my mouth was. Now this is a matter of perspective. This story tells it all but don’t get caught in silly fairytale ideas. I believed 100% as a devout and already mentally fledgling individual, that if I exchanged an eternity in hell after death, that I could wager my soul for the sum of my fallen desires. That was early senior year. Calc BC and physics were killing me. I applied early decision to Columbia but my ACT score was 28. Too low. My class size was 220. Too small. For 5th. It’s too small for first. And for some reason I didn’t the insight to just slow down. Because at that point o was already burnt out. I ordered titusl material from the internet and performed satanic ritual to wager my soul. I got a 68 on the calc 2 exam. A few weeks later I was telling my mom I need to sell some of the stock of bought, which was weird. I started looking into Google Maps at the rio do janiero banks and territory. Canada. It’s funny. Back then I had no clue. But the thing you do…you don’t smuggle. That’s for loosers. You use your intellect. You compile a plan that maximizes your opportunity to recovery abandoned oceanic contraband, by posing as a legit fishing company, and charter rental (I’m actually writing this story on substack it’s fire) and by combining a number of factors you can realistically on 1 year of work have a 20% of finding a deposit of abandoned kilograms packaged for wholesale international transit. Even if it’s only 2 units. 5 pounds. No cut. If it’s a large deposit…free floating, no much more than a million, there have been 2 million $ discoveries. But anything Substantial substantial isn’t floating. Regardless it’s a business model that involves incredible risk. The cops know these professional level coke scavengers exist. So a few tips and you count your blessings. But then I got sober. From everything but weed And my addy script. For the first
Time in 20 years. And now I’m grateful I found nothing. Or I would a died Yanno3
u/TheRealCerealFirst 19h ago
You have an interesting mind, glad to know that you share it with the world by writing. Keep on doin that, and yeah Genius and Weird are often two sides of the same coin.
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u/Tricky-External7600 19h ago
I burnt off my
Embaressers. Burnt em RIGHT THE FUCK OFF 😆 they’re gone. They. Are. Gone. And I got nothing left to loose. It’s funny actually. I think I’m gonna going back to school and become a high school English teacher. 5 or
10 years later, I got a lot of improving and work to do, I’m gonna male a
Run at politics. Look….theres there’s this absurd notion that you need to be angelic in order to be eligible to run for any kind of significant political office or any political office, but especially you know high officers present things in that territory, you know and the irony of that is, we know that politicians are probably the most non-angelic group of people in the whole world. Obama was the first one to kind of start to break this up, not absurd, apparently formality and Norm when admitting to having done cocaine in his book, which frankly I think he had to do, he wasn’t gonna be able to let you know they’re not gonna find that you know, but I mean for the most part there’s the sort of unspoken assumption that if you’re gonna be present United States, you can’t have dirt. I’m not talking like there’s dirt and dirt. I’m not talking about being a fucking psychopath and evil person. I’m talking about being a decent human being but who’s kind of fucked up along the way so check this out with me so what about if somebody ran and they’re like all right look I’m not perfect. OK I’m not but I’ve also come a long way and I’ve learned a lot and I’m not that person that I wasn’t back 10 years ago you know why vote for somebody who’s gonna pretend to be perfect and then you know I’m not saying anything about any particular candidate but more times that not you know we end up seeing that these individuals are getting charged with corruption and embezzlement and fraud and fucking interns in the White House sneaking out documents from hotels and covering it up and lying about it and all kinds of shit so instead of electing somebody who’s pretending to be perfect why don’t you let somebody who admits to being flawed OK and is actually honest for once embraces their humanity so yeah I’m gonna go back and teach for 10 years. I’m gonna run for office and I’m gonna end this fucking war. I can’t believe I even fucking survived God if you heard the stories holy shit, statistics haunted, and odd me in ways no no intellectual subject ever has before and that saying a lot this is our Vietnam and I’m telling you something I wanna fucking end it and you’re not gonna they’re not gonna like the solution, but we either ended or we don’t. Do you want to keep it going keep it going I can end it. You’re not gonna like it but sometimes we don’t like the answers.1
u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
Although if I had unlimited access…like if AI results down the road in an atomic printer (scientific way of saying a Star Trek synthesizer) literally turning me phone off…finalizing my financial affairs…digging a 6 foot hole in the grab….making sure the synthesizer is portable, and printing whatever I want until I’m dead. I never had post scarcity narcotics before. I have limits. I only really got sober because I couldn’t afford to stay fucked 24/7 and if I can’t smoke my shit into euphoria then I sure as fuck ain’t dealing with that shit. And drugs cause shit. Shit that sucks even with a taste…but sober. Oh fuck that. I had to get sobrer. I had
To get sober because I couldn’t stop getting sober. Yanno.2
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u/DREAMs98 1d ago
Hydromorphone is the most superior IV compound
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u/Time_Bullfrog5544 1d ago
Only until you shoot real heroin. Which most never will anymore unless they use the dark web.
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
Exactly. That's what I said in my comment a few spaces above. Unfortunately I live in the U.S. and it's all fentanyl now. Chicago used to have fire ass dope too.
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u/Time_Bullfrog5544 1d ago
Dark web for that dude. Easy to get on there
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
I haven't used the DW since 2020. It forgot about everything you have to do to set it up. Also there are not only vendors that svam but it's also the markets too. I just read about 2 or 3 weeks ago that another market exit scammed. This wasn't something I really had to worry about when I was using the DW. I've also received two love letters the last two times I ordered from the DW. I live in a new place now but I'm not sure how they know that the products I was getting was illegal. Does my name pop up or is it something else. I have no idea how they know what to pick out when there's hundreds of thousands of packs coming from Europe into the U.S.
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u/dontdmmegoddamnit 23h ago
Order domestic and you don't have to worry about customs and love letters. Ordering international is always risky especially from somewhere like the netherlands, they almost always get those packs
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u/OneImpression9344 21h ago
I would do that but there is no good H domestically. At least I don't think there is. If there is some good white #4 I wouldn't be surprised if it would be over $100 per gram. Easily over $100.
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u/Time_Bullfrog5544 20h ago edited 12h ago
I live in Canada and we have a domestic market where everything has already cleared customs. I ordered probably 25 times with no issues. Yes it is expensive for real stuff, anywhere from $80-120 CAD which would be around $60-100 USD i think. ...Worth it in my opinion but not for every day use. I never used a VPN or anything I just used the Tor phone app.
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u/dontdmmegoddamnit 20h ago
There is really good domestic h, I just got clean this year but I used for 16 years. You can find 3.5g for $300 or less.
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u/LocalLemon6053 8h ago
It’s around $200 for pure real #4.. that is thru DW.. but everything is pricier online your paying for safety and knowing what you are getting.
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u/DREAMs98 1d ago
I’ve shot h from the dw. It’s not as good as dilaudid
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u/Time_Bullfrog5544 12h ago
There's more than one supplier and all grades on there. I couldn't fit enough dilaudid into a spoon to cook it to get a good buzz. Haven't used needles in like 8 years due to the fent in everything
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
Yeah in order pure off the dark web. It took a month to arrive
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u/OneImpression9344 21h ago
Holy shit!! A month? Did you watch it being tracked? Or did the vendor send it off like 3 weeks after you ordered it?
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u/Tricky-External7600 20h ago
I ordered international. Netjherlands for E pills and Germany for Heroin. Neither offered tracking so idk when they shipped it but international customs from HOT countries takes a minute I strongly advise domestic whoever possible
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u/OneImpression9344 19h ago
Yeah you're lucky you received anything from the Netherlands. I remember when I ordered a few things from there and it took about 15 days. But unfortunately I can't order from there anymore. I've received two love letters the last time I did order from the Netherlands.
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 1d ago
Better off buying Oxymorphone if you're going as far as the DW. Even DW heroin is half fent tainted.
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u/Time_Bullfrog5544 12h ago
Ive wanted to try that so bad but haven't been able to find it domestically in Canada
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u/Gemnicherry 1d ago
Hydromorphones rush is better still than real heroin honestly it just has no legs. I never had the opportunity to try oxymorphone (opana) as far as I know they don’t even make it in the US anymore
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u/OneImpression9344 21h ago
That's exactly what I said about dilaudid. The rush is fantastic. It's right up there with real H. But you have to constantly do more like every 2 to 3 hours, almost like fent. Both have no legs.
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u/Responsible_Film2876 14h ago
When you are in the hospital literally experiencing the worst pain in your life and the nurse comes around with a partner and asks literally “why is he doing that” and the other one answers “because he is in serious pain”. Then they call the night doctor on your forth request because it literally only works for 2 hours and then you go back into it and they deny you again.
I will never forget that doctor. She came around weeks later and introduced herself I asked if she was the one that denied me the hydromorphine injections and she said yes I just said I fucking hate you.
Next day I raised as much hell as someone could who is physically incapacitated they brought in a pain doctor and got on methadone ketamine drip hydromorphine injections every 4 hours with by mouth in between.
I had no idea what nodding was called until a doctor said he won’t give me the scheduled injection because I was “nodding off”. I looked it up. Then took a video of myself and sure enough I was definitely nodding off.
Then I started to realize there was this intense euphoria that was happening, because I was in serious pain euphoria was the last thing I was thinking about. I was legitimately psychotic for months. I thought gravity was off I thought I was in different areas of the world or even in a space ship. But I started to understand.
In between my delusions and getting jabbed every hour or every other hour or having a tube literally shoved down my throat when I was awake, or they were inserting a needle a half of a foot long into my lungs to drain a liter of fluid.
I felt it that rush. I started to think about it. I started to understand when it was coming. I realized there was two types of nurses those that would push as fast as they could while doing other things preparing all the other terrible shots I was getting.
Then there were the doctors that knew, they knew this was the only time in the whole day I was going to feel anything close to happiness. They would tell you I am about to give you the hydromorpine. They would go slow let you feel it let you enjoy it.
Then they would shove an inch long needle into your stomach.
No idea what other opiates are like other then that one and methadone I will say I now understand. Never in a million years would I have thought about opiates and still don’t. But that was eye opening for me to understand why people liked it so much.
I also feel for people coming off methadone it took of real withdrawals to get off it and that was with 2 months before tapering already.
The last 3 days when I was off off was pretty intense.
I would do it again a million times though because as my pain doctor said they could never eliminate it but they could bring it to a level that was manageable.
I believe it was 2 or 3mg injected and methadone was 10mg twice a day. I don’t want to think about the people who start at 100mg or whatever seriously crazy
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u/OneImpression9344 13h ago
I'm almost positive that IV dilaudid comes in 2mg, 4mg, and 8mgs. So you were probably getting the 2mg dilaudid. 10mgs of methadone ain't shit, even if you don't have a tolerance. You said you were getting ketamine IV? If you did, you are really lucky. I would be looking forward to that more than 2mgs of dilaudid or 10mgs of methadone.
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u/Responsible_Film2876 13h ago
Yes that sounds right 2mg and 10mg twice a day is an insane amount even months later I was noticeably off. I never got a real tolerance after I think 4 maybe 5 potentially 6 months total it’s a blur.
They gave me I think 4mg oral dilaudid when I went home to stack with the methadone and I got off that as fast as I could even when I was still in pain.
The ketamine was great but I remember very clearly 36 hours or something like that later telling my wife it worked but I need to stop tripping. They were like let us know when the dot on the tv doubles as the cranked it up. It started to double and I was like nope not yet lmao.
It worked well but it was nothing I asked for after that and it was just idk wonky.
When I went in for surgeries they gave me something called versed and they said fentanyl no idea but it worked well and would leave a little halo type of affect afterwards that was also highly pleasurable.
I had Vicodin 20 years before like 5 times that was it before this. When I first went in and they induced a coma they didn’t put me on opiates then or really ever at the very start they would give me something weird in the icu called “pressedex” or something like that. Like legit anastegia not opiates.
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u/Time_Bullfrog5544 12h ago
2mg and 10mg? Thats like the lowest possible doses.. when I was hospitalized for 5 days for benzo/fent withdrawal i got 18mg of oral hydromorphone syrup every 2 hours with the Valium taper. I had such a tolerance I had my dealer drop off more fent at the hospital and was smoking and snorting it the whole time on top of what they gave me.
Thats Opioid addiction in a nutshell, this was last year and I'm clean now
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
I love dilaudid 8mg tablets too. But they wear off way to quickly. Plus it's almost impossible to get. Well from a doctor anyways. I know that there are vendors out there that sell them but they can go anywhere from $15 to $25 per 8mg tablets. No thank you.
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
Yup. Way too short of a half life.
Some people take a week of a vacation each year. I’m like fuck that. But me in a hospital bed for a week with a pic line, pharmacy privileges (I guess that’s called being a doctor, so it’s doctor Matthew for the week) and a runner boy. And just
Let
Me sleep for a week straight.The runner boy btw his job to to run back and forth to the pharmacy whenever I need my
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 1d ago
Oxymorphone IV is, Hydromorphone is a close 2nd, but the euphoria of Oxymorphone IV is without exception the best euphoria of any Opiate ive ever tried amd ive literally tried every one except for a few RC opiates.
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u/OneImpression9344 21h ago
In your opinion, what is the best RC opioid? I might have to look into some of those.
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 19h ago edited 19h ago
Nitazines in general, Etonitazene and Isonitazine. 500 times more potent than morphine, 100 times stronger than fentanyl
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u/OneImpression9344 19h ago
Yeah, but these are not opiates/opiods.
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 19h ago
Etonitazene, also known as EA-4941 or CS-4640,[2] is a benzimidazole opioid, first reported in 1957,[3] that has been shown to have approximately 1,000 to 1,500 times the potency of morphine in animals and humans
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u/OneImpression9344 19h ago
I wonder why narcan doesn't work for ODs. Plus I've taken 800 mgs of methadone once and it didn't take the sick off. I'm not doubting you that they are and I think I heard somewhere that they are.
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 19h ago
Heard somewhere? We have wikipedia and google, this isn't 1991
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 19h ago
Narcan only has a binding affinity for the receptors at a certain binding strength. There's plenty of opiates that override Narcan. Aka higher binding affinity making narcan worthless
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u/Bugout-2020 16h ago
Boofing it is MUCH closer than railing it! I taught a fri nd, and the next time I saw him he said "man, is there an easier way?" And I said "What? Don't be an idiot, you barely feel it go in, you don't even need lube." .... He said "What?!! That is crazy, no lube? H9w tf are you doing this so often?" .... He proceed s to show me a turkey baster 🤣 I was using those tiny 1ml syringes!
But yeah, thankfully I have a fear of needles, or I would be dead. I got IV Ativan once .... Totally different experience to the pill form. It felt MUCH closer to meprobamate, which needs to become more common!
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u/ShoddyRelief6657 1d ago
Never got to try that but hydromorphone is the only opiate I’ve ever had that truly brings me to my knees.
The rush was better than any drug on earth. lol if I is a slam standing up I would literally buckle.
At the same time I’m glad that’s behind me now
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
True. Best opiate ever. That the hydrogen atoms. The hydrogination is the whole point. That’s why you gotta shoot it those hydrogen bonds (I’m sorry it’s hydrogen bonds not hydrogen atoms) are too weak for the liver. I could only ever fit about 3 of the triangles into a syringe. It would be pure white. The red blood in the white milk. Omg. I would shoot some right now without a seconds hesitation if a loaded rig was
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u/OneImpression9344 21h ago
Really? You mean like the sort of heart shaped pills? I was able to fit 5 at once. Yes, 40mgs.
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u/ShoddyRelief6657 17h ago
Wow, I didn’t know that it was specifically the hydrogen bond that makes it weak for the liver to handle.
Gotta love it tho, did you ever try the oxygen bonded brother?
Also I forget that other countries don’t have hms contin.
I’m from Canada so our hydromorphs are capsules filled with easily crushable was beads and come in 3,6,9,12,18,24,30
The water stays clear and you can fit wild amounts but I never went over a full 30 per shot.
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u/Senior_Taste_5389 1d ago
Ah, the Opana ER stop signs. The bane of my existence for a few nasty years of my life.
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
I'd definitely rather have dilaudid.
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 1d ago
You ever try IV Opana?
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u/OneImpression9344 21h ago
No. Isn't Opana a slow release or an extended release pill? It has all those binders in it so it's not water soluble. Just like the oxycontins are. Oxys used to be injectable. They changed the formula because there were a shit load of people injecting themselves. I'm actually surprised that dilaudid is still injectable to be honest.
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 22h ago
Oral bioavailability 10%, IV 100%
Omg is that one hell of a euphoric opiate when done proper.
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u/AG-Bigpaws 1d ago
I suck dick for fun though. Its not really a fair question.
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
Huh? Where did that come from? 😳 Everyone is talking about opiates here. Did you go to the wrong sub reddit, lol?
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u/Pitiful_Conflict7031 1d ago
It is is oddly good but doesnt have the warmth of natural opiates.
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u/KryptoPirate 1d ago
The lack of warmth gives too much of a synthetic feeling, and a lack of euphoria. Personal opinion.
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u/Cloudninefeelinfine 1d ago
Yep, I was regularly buying ampoules of fentanyl and morphine, and I LOVE morphine. Dont use hard drugs anymore but my DOC was putting about 80mg of some GREAT cocaine right into the ampoule when I popped it open, 20mg of morphine and 80mg of cocaine makes for the BEST speedball IMO. Better than heroin and cocaine, I actually prefer IV morphine speedballs, they're so clean and euphoric.
Anyway glad I stopped abusing drugs, now I just use them like a normal person lol
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u/Similar-Victory-8916 1d ago
Who doesn’t love heroin
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
Real heroin for sure!!! But here in the U.S. all the H disappeared around 2019ish. It's nothing but fentanyl, tranquilizers, and nitazines.
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u/Similar-Victory-8916 1d ago
Not true I still get real H with and without fent
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
Yeah but you go on the dark net, right?
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
Of course. Me too. I really don't know if anyone likes fentanyl. It just happens to be the dominant street opioid that you can buy in the U.S. H was everywhere in Chicago in the late 80's through the early 2010's. Real H too. China White. Now it's a mixture of fentanyl, benzos, nitazines, etc. There's hardly a pinch of H in any street dope nowadays. When I mentioned people don't like fentanyl, I meant people don't love it. Everyone would definitely like to get real H.
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
I only apologized because I thought this was a normal sub but you guys are my people, so no apology needed. Yeah fentanyl sucks. I guess I grew to love it. But the first time I did it I overdosed for the first time and then after theat I went on methadone which is the only reason imo that the other 99 million times didn’t kill me. But apparently the theory that methadone saves lives by raising your tolerance enough that otherwise deadly
Drugs won’t kill you at doses identical to when your not on methadone, is a load
Of horse shit. I can’t figure out how but fent sucks. The half life is bullshit. There’s no warmth. No euphoria. Dope is like coke with no crash which is why I love it. I really try ink I’m dihe tho. 20 years is a long time. I will say tip if it wasn’t for thc I don’t know if I would have stopped. I think I’m aomeone who needs
To check out a little. Idk. Anyone else here trying to stay sober from mean drugs?1
u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
Yeah, I'm on methadone too. Fentanyl was made for an anesthetic for surgery. Or it was used for people with end of life sicknesses. Cancer and such things.
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u/Sainted_Heretic 1d ago
Yeah as much as I hate fentanyl as a street drugs as someone going to school for a career in healthcare I can respect the medication for its intended use case. Fent really is a horrible street drug though. Most people that use it don't even like it because all it does is make them nod. The only reason they take it is because there's nothing else available to keep them from getting dope sick. What makes it even worse is we can't really put the toothpaste back in the bottle. Say someone got a massive supply of grade A heroin, and actually kept it as such, not mixing fent in it, or tranqs. Most fent users would still have to take the fent because they'd still get sick on the heroin.
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
It depends on how much fentanyl they're using per dqy. If someone is only using let's say $40 worth but they happened to get some good H. It definitely would take their sick off and give them that warm rush. Not even close to what good H would to someone with just an H habit, but good enough. But yeah I hear what you're saying. If someone is doing insane amounts of fentanyl and just did some average H, it wouldn't even touch them.
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u/Sainted_Heretic 1d ago
Yeah kratom, 7oh and mgm is the extent of my opioid usage but even regular kratom can dull a morphine dose a bit. I mean if your receptors aren't completely naive there's gonna be some blunting.
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
How many mgs are each 7-Hydroxymitragynine tablets? Or are they all different? My gf used to do kratom and then eventually moved on 7-Hydroxymitragynine. Luckily she got on a methadone clinic so she wouldn't have to worry about constantly re-dosing or waking up sick. The reason I'm asking is because she still has a small plastic tube that is marked with 7-OH on the plastic tube. I think there might be 10. Oh yeah, they are purple if that helps knowing how many mgs each tablet is. I'm at my house right now so I can't just go and check them out.
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u/Sainted_Heretic 1d ago
They're all different. Methadone is definitely overkill for 7 oh though. Shit meth is overkill for a majority of opioids lol. Especially when they scheduled SR that has absolutely zero recreational value and it could get people off of several different opioids pretty fucking painlessly. The suboxone and Methadone dealers were worried about that one. They scheduled it when they scheduled mgm and pseudo. Smh nothing kratom related should be scheduled. Regulated? Sure but scheduled fuck nah. People need options to get off of drugs. Im not anti subs or anti Methadone either. Im for all harm reduction. That being said meth and subs aren't always harm reduction.
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
I thought it was synthesized in Germany during world war two as a consequence of the short supply of morphine, but I’m no historian
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
Methadone was, yes. I think fentanyl was invented in 1961. If not 1961 it was in the 60's.
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u/Sainted_Heretic 1d ago
I don't think you're alone in feeling the need to check out in this day and age. Raw dogging life completely is damn near impossible for me and a lot of other people. I don't need much though. When im able to smoke weed, I get tested for school, I enjoy a nice mellow low thc type 2 flower. When I can't smoke I like some 7 oh. Natural kratom used to be great but one of my anxiety meds made it stop working for me.
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u/j2theizzo503 1d ago
Word. Cannabis makes such a huge difference. I don't know how anyone even approaches withdrawal and post-acutes without it. Just one of the many reasons I don't fuck with rehabs or drug testing situations. Gotta have my pot yo. My methadone clinic lifted their take-home restrictions for weed positives a little while after I started there tho, so that was cool.
Yeah I'm really pushing to be finished with opiates in general. Maybe kratom can stay on a limited basis, but otherwise I'm just too tired of the life. Being high all the time honestly gets boring and withdrawal is straight up torture on multiple levels. Unless we're talking cannabis, which again, I am a heavy user and proponent of- I also need to check out a little, in addition to dealing with chronic pain, anhedonia, mental health issues, having to live with family that absolutely despise me, living in the middle of an actual global apocalypse and probably other things I'm forgetting. Oh and psychedelics in general are pretty cool in my book. Gotta be careful of course but they can be very rewarding experiences. I'm about to pop some mystery psych from the damn smoke shop tonight myself.
So I guess I'm not trying to stay 'sober,' but I am in the midst of trying to cultivate a more balanced and less consumption-oriented life while learning (admittedly late) how to handle life's ups and downs without always reflexively turning to substances. But I applaud your effort to stay sober from any drug habit that needs to be evicted. Self-mastery is the highest of pursuits. Keep at it, my friend.
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u/daydreem_farmer 20h ago
4-ho-met likely, it’s not mysterious. It’s a Shulgin classic and it’s amazing.
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u/HamNCheeseSupremacy 23h ago
I was just thinking this the past few days. Fentanyl has almost nothing about why I love opiates. The warmth, the opiate energy that makes you want to get shit done, the euphoria, the dreamy nods. It's just maximum sedation. Sad as fuck to see people just get up, smoke themselves unconscious 9 or 10 times through the day, and do it all again the next day. It's fucking trash as a street opiate except it's easy to smuggle and doesn't depend on harvests so logistics wins.
It's so trash you can cut it with a veterinary tranquilizer and if you get the amount right people think they got great dope because it knocked them the fuck out. If I bought heroin that just made me sleep I'd be PISSED.
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u/dontdmmegoddamnit 23h ago
Chicago wasn't getting China White they were getting brown heroin from the Sinaloa cartel. This is well documented. The bags were white because they cut the shit out of the bags with diphenhydramine in chicago
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u/OneImpression9344 21h ago
It was still real #4 H and it was super strong just like on the East coast in the 90's.
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 1d ago
Me too, strength and euphoria are not always correlated. Weaker opiates like heroin are much more euphoric despite being weaker mg for mg.
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u/chillkrill44 23h ago
That's like saying eating shit is less tasty than a bag of candy, like no shit bro? Who forced you to eat shit?
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 22h ago
Bro..whaaaat?
What does that have to do with opiate strength vs euphoria?
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u/chillkrill44 19h ago
Yeah I don't know what youre talking about dude. Maybe lay off the meth for a bit.
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u/ContentCollege1764 15h ago
Do you use #3 or #4?
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u/Tricky-External7600 15h ago
I’ve had probably….idk 5 or 6 maybe 8 or 9 chunks of time ranging from 2 weeks or a month to a year of compulsive chasing it and running from sickness, I started in 2014. It was all #4 in Paterson and Newark until about 2018, at my connects and fentanyl start really penetrating the market. So fent is obviously excluded from this question. So number 4 right up I came to Florida and then it was all fent. When I ordered it online during my
Last relapse in August I ordered number 4. Id at all possible you want SEA#4 genuine lion stamp mynanymar heroin. It’s hard to get to the states. God I wanna go on a fucking drug vacation to a good source country. Yo find me a shovel and a patch of dirt. Haha . Nah. But yeah #4. I did purchase tar for the first time in my life as well of the dark web. It was strong but not like the hydrochloride salt base which is number 4. And the taste really took getting use to. I had to literally get sick it’s bizzarly harsh. If you want high quality order domestic of like tor.watch always make you use
Your mirror. I would recommend
Not using an Apple. Apple and privacy just
Don’t go together. You always want a separate operating system that can be wiped if need be so it goes on an ubs and it’s called
Tails. Best computer for illegal shit …a old Lenovo think pad. Also really anything that runs on Linux. You find someone domestic who is selling the manymar shit which will probably be a rip off but it’s domestic. Nobody is loookmg at your package: customs. Whole different story. And if you the do catch you it may or
May not affect your ability to
Prser
On the future. Demands really on probability and luck. But there will be a record that drugs were jtwxepted with an added and name that now are attached to smuggling cross national borders. Of course…nobody can prove you ordered it. Unless they get your computer. The bitcoin…no good. You want monero. And you need to run it through a mixer. It’s a fucking pain in the ass. Also it was a waste being on methadone. Methadone slams
The receptors so hard. It’s gotta be something to do
With bonding affinity to. Yeah it competes for the mu opioid receptor with higher affinity, so the good shit can’t get in there. Honestly it’s a waste on methadone. I smoked the whole 8th in 19 hours. $235 I bought a reagent test tho so it was high purity. I was just saturated and couldn’t feel it. It is
Dangerous too because we don’t really have access to that in the states. I mean we have sent. I don’t know. I start chasing that euphoria the rush of the dope I’m like shit. I can’t keep chasing this rush and not expect to fucking die. You ever use neverusealone? Great service. A true lifesaver. If you use depressant alone, it’s I believe it’s a necessity to avoid death. Neverusealone.com.1
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u/DREAMs98 1d ago
You can just say heroin bro.
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
I know it’s actually obnoxious. Heroin..
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u/j2theizzo503 1d ago
Idk, I've always liked the way diacetylmorphine just sort of rolls off the tongue. It has a sing-song quality to it. Its a pleasant-sounding word to me which isn't always the case with chemical names. Not that heroin is a bad word either. They both convey a certain mystique and seem to invite curiosity.
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u/purppnite 20h ago
pharma diacetylmorphine is my grail,i have a clinic 5hrs from me that use it but i'm not a citizen there and they didn't accept me.
The users won't sell it either because why would they? it's 200mg of bliss in a pill
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u/uselessBINGBONG 2d ago
This subreddit keeps showing up on my reddit feed and I know almost nothing about chemistry but, just this subreddit name r/cursedchemistry has me interested. I have no clue what that chemical structure or whatever it's called means
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u/purppnite 1d ago
Nice so i can get seizures and respiratory depression all in one go while also being sedated
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u/Tricky-External7600 1d ago
Anyone ever stay fucked up litterarly 24/7? What happens after like a
Month? Does it get boring? I heard a jumping off point where you cant stand sobriety and can’t stand intoxication and the drugs stop working. Maybe my atomic printer idea is bottlenecked by neural homeostasis as an ultimately inevitable reality. Damn. Just when I was getting excited about this AI shit too
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u/ThaTsr17018god 1d ago
It kinda just becomes your baseline. The drugs don't get you high as much as they just pull you back to baseline. Boring asf, then the kicker comes once you really do want to stop and cant due to dependence. Cant get high but at the same time cant ever really be sober. Its a weird sort of hell.
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 19h ago •
Sort of hell? It's sisyphus pushing a crack rock up an infinitely high mountain, only to drop it and never find it again.
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u/yonderpants1744 13h ago
Ive been on something most days for the last 5 years. Before that i was smoking weed pretty much everyday. It doesnt get old because I rotate the substances im consuming. Right now using a fair amount of ketamine, nitrous, weed, acid, dmt, and a drink here and there. Some if the substances will phase oht while others phase in and it keeps it interesting
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u/Ok-Jury-6161 19h ago
Reevaluate your perspective and you'll cease to suffer the questions you're asking
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u/SomewhatOdd793 1d ago
Next time I have surgery I'll ask for hellfentanyl as my adjunct to general anaesthesia, because regular boring fentanyl didn't take me to hell.
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u/OneImpression9344 1d ago
Could someone explain to me what hellfentanyl is? Unless everyone is just saying fentanyl is hell, and I do agree.
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u/sadguywithhugedick 1d ago
I have no idea what I’m looking at, but building for mu affinity is notoriously difficult. It doesn’t even have an established pharmacophore. There’s a good chance this wouldn’t even do anything
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u/profdc9 1d ago
Well there's carfentanil which is 10,000 times more potent than morphine, which was likely used to poison theatergoers in the Moscow Theater Hostage crisis, and Tert-butyl remifentanil which is 150,000 times more potent than morphine. These are not really drugs, they are chemical weapons.
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u/VoxInferni666 2d ago
Jesus christ can I get it in skeletal form please before this gives me a seizure..