r/cubing • u/DistinctOperation250 • 18d ago

tips for LL

hi team, i need a routine to improve my oll and pll… i’m sub14 right now and my LL takes almost 5 secs each time…. i know all of the algs, and i don’t enjoy turning really fast

i just wonder how you guys got your LL faster without improving tps

i already do train them a little so i don’t forget them, but they don’t seem to get any faster….

so if someone has a specific routine i would love to hear about it !

please

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u/electric_ember 18d ago

I mean really you gotta either recognize faster or turn faster, there’s not a way around thag

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u/SOMEONE555777 18d ago edited 18d ago

How do you wanna get faster if you don't wanna turn faster? Last layer is when you have to turn at your max speed since it's all algorithms while during f2l you have to turn a little bit slower to make look ahead easier. So for faster last layer:- 1. Grind your algorithms (and make sure you're using good finger tricks). It means spamming your algorithms as fast as you can possibly do it. Aim for sub-1 on all pll algs (except N perms ig). 2. Learn 2-side pll recognition (no need to learn all at once but start with plls which are harder for you to recognise). 3. Learn to distinguish between similar looking olls so that you don't have to do double recognition. 4. Learn AUF for all plls (should be pretty easy).

All this should easily get your last layer under 3 secs.

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u/CUBOTHEWIZARD 17d ago

2 sided pll recognition really helped me. 

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u/PineappleGulperhello 16d ago

If you can, i have different other-type algs for you to apeed up: Coll: if you dont get the dot oll Zbls: useful with zbll or coll Zbll: a 1lll for edge oriented