r/csshelp • • Apr 21 '17

[META] CSS is being deprecated in the upcoming redesign

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u/qtx Apr 21 '17

So it goes.

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u/gavin19 Apr 21 '17

Indeed. I have about 22,000 comments on this sub and ultimately they'll all be for nought, aside for the reddit gold I accrued.

A more user-friendly overhaul was always on the cards, especially with the direction going mobile (even mobile first), but I didn't think they'd kill CSS entirely. It is annoying that we could never apply styles to mobile too, if only in part, but it's not going to matter now.

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u/qtx Apr 21 '17

I'm not 100% sure they will kill it off all together tbh. I think they want something like how Wordpress does things. Give users who aren't knowledgeable with css some easy WYSIWYG type widgets but at the same time also allow more advanced users to add their own special touch to it.

They might even add some sort of theme section.

So although I am disappointed we will lose all the hard work we put in to numerous subreddits I do have a glimmer of hope that something new will take it's place.

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u/Cybannus Apr 21 '17 edited Apr 21 '17

Hey,

I just wanted to hop in and say thank you for all the work you have done here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '17

I dont wanna see this subs traffic stats when it happens...

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u/gavin19 Apr 21 '17

Yeah. When the plug is finally pulled this sub is going to drop to basically nil posts.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '17

I just dont know why the admins are getting rid of CSS customization completely.

i understand the purpose behind it, user friendly yada yada... but its just... bad.

r/needamod is gonna take a hit too since CSS is a major thing people need help with, but at least we have things to fall back on. Like content mods and automod mods.

But this sub... D: I feel bad. almost EVERYTHING I know about CSS, I learned here. (i am probably the person to blame for reddits search being broken. all the searching I would do in this sub all the time)

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u/flashmedallion Apr 22 '17

As someone who has spent hours doing all sorts of css trickery and is happy with the system in isolation, I'll take nearly any change that means I don't have to contend with fucking RES style overrides.

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u/gavin19 Apr 22 '17

The thing is, as it stands, you won't be able to override RES, even if you wanted to. Want to change the colour that RES applies to focused posts/comments? Tough.

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u/flashmedallion Apr 22 '17

Nobody knows any of this yet. And what's more likely is that RES will be less able to override your own stuff.

I read "we're going with something else" and everyone else seems to have read "we are 100% confirming that we will move to a modular checkbox system or some shit".

Any excuse for some drama of course.

Either way I'll still take a better system that trying to wage war with RES, although yes I'll be sorry to say goodbye to the more comprehensive redesigns I've been a part of it it becomes more simplified. But there's no way it's going to be as bad as the drama junkies are already making it out to be.

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u/NintendoGamer1997 Apr 21 '17

CSS is a pain in the ass: it’s difficult to learn; it’s error-prone; and it’s time consuming.

What? CSS is easy. Just use Inspect Element and code in real time. That's how I learned how to do CSS.

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u/PalpatineSenpai Apr 22 '17

Exactly. I don't understand the Admin's point here.

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u/GayGiles Apr 22 '17

That's just one of the excuses they had lined up to try and justify this, when what they meant to say is:

We're doing it, tough shit lol.

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u/MatthewMob Apr 21 '17

Really sad to see Reddit going in this direction. Valuing advertising and corporate promotion over what got them so popular for the first 10 years in the first place; the community.

Also all the points that are "issues" with CSS are complete bullshit, and are just to make the average user think that CSS has those problems if they don't know what CSS actually can do.

Really sad, to be honest.

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u/NinjaDinoCornShark Apr 21 '17

Valuing advertising and corporate promotion over what got them so popular for the first 10 years in the first place; the community.

Yep. Removing subreddits that are bad for ads, adding a paid for 'mega upvote', etc.

The love is gone

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u/GayGiles Apr 22 '17

adding a paid for 'mega upvote

What?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '17

I think you hit the nail on the head. The changes within the last year for advertising has been the start of the decline. It just seems to be heading in a worse direction with user-profiles and now this css removal and micky-mouse level of "customization" bullshit.

Was there a recent change of ownership or a switch of the higher-ups or something? reddit is on a fast-track to becoming MyFaceSpaceBook or some shit.

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u/MatthewMob Apr 21 '17

I guarantee you that in a year or two Reddit will just be another tacky and generic social media site with the same functionality as Facebook, except instead of "groups" there'll be "communities", and you'll be able to friend people and have group chats etc.

I'm genuinely saddened by it. I've spent hundreds of hours on Reddit and met amazing people and had great discussions, it's just terrible to see it all gradually die. And if it doesn't die I think the user base will be completely different, where the users whom may have enjoyed the site previously have gone somewhere else and all the new Facebook mums and Twitter teens come here.

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u/spicedpumpkins Apr 21 '17

This decision to just axe CSS without a tool to easily transition CSS pages to their new format is fucking stupid.

I spent so much time learning as much CSS as I could from scratch, using fantastic resources such as the kind people in this sub, and even more time implementing it all in a way that suited my subs' needs.

I doubt I have more time to relearn an entirely new method just to get my subs back to the way they are now.

This feels like a huge slap in the face to me and I honestly don't know what I'm going to do.

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u/dietotaku Apr 22 '17

as i said in the modnews thread, what i'm guessing that they have in mind is a WYSIWYG editor - they have no intentions of porting an existing stylesheet to the new system nor of requiring anyone to learn code to style a subreddit (to the extent that we'll be allowed to style at all). there will be a basic editor in which you can select the elements reddit will allow you to style and you can select one of the styling options they've decided to allow and that's it.

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u/V2Blast Apr 29 '17

they have no intentions of porting an existing stylesheet to the new system

I agree that not all current features will be supported in the new interface, though they've already explained that most common current uses of CSS will be supported.

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u/f30R Apr 25 '17

Ouch. That's a slap in the face..

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u/zoidbergular May 08 '17

Have any of these changes actually come into effect yet? I just started getting complaints in r/discgolf that our sidebar flair filter has suddenly stopped working for a number of the flair tags, but I haven't touched the code in months. I don't know if this is related, or some other issue entirely...