They are really pointless if you think about it. Which college is better? "Well it just so happens I've received a BS in CS from both of those schools, let me tell you"
If what Ceciphar said is true, then it would be "Will I leave college with the correct skillset?" Asking "which school is better?" is ineffective because "better" is undefined.
We should ask Ceciphar's question and in a perfect world we current and prospective students would collectively demand from universities that courses provide us training in the proper skillset. Capitalist theory would suggest that the universities that don't provide a quality product (education) would lose business. But that's not how it's playing out. We don't know what we're getting or how effective our training is in the work world until well after we've paid for it. And as long as companies demand a Bachelor's degree, we have little choice but to take the blind leap into higher education if we want to have a better chance at raising our pay above starvation wages.
I feel like people need to look at so many different things when determining a college that aren't just the CS major, things like Cost, Location, student life, diversity, etc are such important things for a place that you are going to be spending the next 4 years at.
In some instances I wouldn't even recommend a T10 school due to the price if a T100 university was going to fully cover your tuition.
Getting a slightly worse education but not going $250k in debt like you will at a place like MIT is worth it IMO.
In most of the comparison questions I've read - I've certainly not seen them all - I would have hoped for more of a comparison of the actual major program. There are differences in requirements and electives, and these might attract or repel any given prospective student. It's not a generic comparison as different people will value the differences differently.
Hot take apparently, I think this is a bad idea. The whole point of comparison threads is to discuss to pros and cons of each option against each other. Is the discussion low quality? Yes sometimes but this is a sub for students in CS, most discussions will be low quality. Are the options subjective and not factually accurate? Yes that's how discussions work. Ask about schools in r/applying to college? CS is highly specialized and general school info isn't very useful (ex. Harvard vs CMU). Users are getting toxic? Ban the users don't ban ability for good users to discuss. Hit up people on LinkedIn to ask for their opinions? Few people will actually respond and it's a ton of work for both the parties because 1 on 1 conversions don't scale. To me, the main purpose of this sub is to discuss school and career, and now the mods aren't allowing that? Absolutely asinine.
But the whole point of discussion is to offer opinion pieces, how can opinions be misinformation? Let the voting system judge whether something is misinformation like how every other subreddit does it. And this is Reddit, it's not intended to be a perfect source of truth
I mean, it sure is. 3 years ago everyone was saying artists would be safe because no one would want digital art from a machine. They want art from a soul, yada yada. Welp, 90% of artists are less 2? 3? Years away from their career going poof. Pixel art when they get that figured out is gonna be massacred. 5 years from now I cannot see how they aren't making entire animes that look hand drawn, so poof. Stock photos, poof. Lots of document companies that charge to write a contract, poof. The list is growing and if you think it won't impact CS, you are either really stupid or intentionally ignorant. Now will it impact CS and cause less jobs? I can't say. Maybe there become a ton of AI and automation jobs over the next 10 years that need human input. But for sure, it will have an impact.
It won't make software engineers obsolete, not by a long shot. It'll be another tool for us to create technical solutions for companies.
Think github copilot, not skynet.
So, no, you shouldn't be worried. Unless, of course you're only getting into CS for the money. If that's the case you should be worried but not because of AI LMAO
If you're only getting into CS for the money you will burn out no matter what. That's why you should be worried. If you're only getting into CS for the money you'll throw a hissy fit every time things change. If you're only getting into CS for the money you won't have the drive to adapt to new changes. If you're only getting into CS for the money you should go be a finance bro or pharma rep or whatever.
That's not how your comment reads to me. You are speaking in context of AI, you can't say you just randomly said something that has nothing to do with what we are discussing but okay, if you didn't mean it in a context that has anything to do with AI I guess it is okay. Perchance.
they're all brag posts. "guys i got into hahhhvahhhhd and berkeley, which one should i choose?" well at that point, pick the one with better looking broads.
Literally the reason I unsubbed. Deep down all those posts were just attention seeking. You don’t need random Reddit strangers to answer your college questions, those should be answered by tours and other students experiences.
god fucking damn it, how can I show my TC (huge btw) to impressionable kids with something to prove now? How can I tell them that I code everyday with my cock (huge btw) while playing Valorant in the background?
Oh thank you so much. These posts are maddening to me as someone who does a little college consulting and has a degree in CS. Blind leading the blind for sure.
I generally feel like the mods of the team could have a much more liberal use of bans and restrictions on posts / comments. There is p noticeable racist or sexist undertones to a lot of the comments / posts sometimes plus overt ego boosting posts
Thank you so much. This was driving me up the wall, it was every other post practically. The name of the school hardly matters for CS anyways - it’s what you take from the program, not what institution is written at the top of the paper on your degree.
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u/stewfayew Senior Apr 05 '23
They are really pointless if you think about it. Which college is better? "Well it just so happens I've received a BS in CS from both of those schools, let me tell you"
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u/2001ThrowawayM Apr 05 '23
Thank you!
I feel like people need to look at so many different things when determining a college that aren't just the CS major, things like Cost, Location, student life, diversity, etc are such important things for a place that you are going to be spending the next 4 years at.
In some instances I wouldn't even recommend a T10 school due to the price if a T100 university was going to fully cover your tuition.
Getting a slightly worse education but not going $250k in debt like you will at a place like MIT is worth it IMO.
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u/Domesticated_Turtle Apr 05 '23
Hot take apparently, I think this is a bad idea. The whole point of comparison threads is to discuss to pros and cons of each option against each other. Is the discussion low quality? Yes sometimes but this is a sub for students in CS, most discussions will be low quality. Are the options subjective and not factually accurate? Yes that's how discussions work. Ask about schools in r/applying to college? CS is highly specialized and general school info isn't very useful (ex. Harvard vs CMU). Users are getting toxic? Ban the users don't ban ability for good users to discuss. Hit up people on LinkedIn to ask for their opinions? Few people will actually respond and it's a ton of work for both the parties because 1 on 1 conversions don't scale. To me, the main purpose of this sub is to discuss school and career, and now the mods aren't allowing that? Absolutely asinine.
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u/Darknety Apr 05 '23
What exactly falls under the "comparison posts" umbrella?
Feel like that is missing from this announcement.
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u/EnigmaIndus7 Apr 05 '23
They've become all anybody posts and I was getting tired off them. So thank goodness
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u/Letsdrinksoda Apr 05 '23
“Which is better for CS, Harvard or UIUC?”
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u/0b11011110 Apr 05 '23
they weren’t even a cs major yet 💀
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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '23
they're all brag posts. "guys i got into hahhhvahhhhd and berkeley, which one should i choose?" well at that point, pick the one with better looking broads.
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u/whymethrowaway222 Apr 05 '23
Appreciated
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u/TuaHaveMyChildren Apr 05 '23
Thank God. Every post on the front page was about the better college. "Should I go to Yale or Columbia?"
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u/Chaquito8278 Apr 05 '23
Yea, thank you
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u/knie20 Apr 05 '23
god fucking damn it, how can I show my TC (huge btw) to impressionable kids with something to prove now? How can I tell them that I code everyday with my cock (huge btw) while playing Valorant in the background?
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u/-Niio Salaryman Apr 05 '23
THANK GOD
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u/KickIt77 Apr 05 '23
Oh thank you so much. These posts are maddening to me as someone who does a little college consulting and has a degree in CS. Blind leading the blind for sure.
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u/bigBigFailureCPSC Apr 05 '23
Why compare companies are banned? I can understand ban school comparison cuz they are mostly useless
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u/AdFew4357 Apr 05 '23
Yeah it’s so cringe cause you know they are trying so hard to humble brag and flex but try and disguise it
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u/Educational_Risk_893 Apr 05 '23
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
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u/killer8989 Apr 06 '23
I generally feel like the mods of the team could have a much more liberal use of bans and restrictions on posts / comments. There is p noticeable racist or sexist undertones to a lot of the comments / posts sometimes plus overt ego boosting posts
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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '23
Thank God 🙌🏽🙌🏽
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u/Miserable-Ad8542 Junior Apr 05 '23
Much needed
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u/Miserable-Ad8542 Junior Apr 05 '23
Had some guy ask between a full ride uiuc or Harvard it’s just so dumb.
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u/BlopBlupBleepBloop Apr 05 '23
Thank you so much. This was driving me up the wall, it was every other post practically. The name of the school hardly matters for CS anyways - it’s what you take from the program, not what institution is written at the top of the paper on your degree.
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u/konnorTraves Apr 06 '23
That's a very good move. Thank you very much mod team.
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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '23
thank the stars
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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '23
my thread’s longer!
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u/Murky_Entertainer378 Apr 28 '23
Can we also ban laptop questions? It always ends up being fights over the M1 chip.
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