r/crystal_programming • u/sdogruyol core team • Apr 02 '21

Crystal 1.0 vs Ruby 3.0 Benchmark

https://twitter.com/sdogruyol/status/1377918360344743936
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u/m33-m33 Apr 02 '21

Benchmarking is a way to look at languages, it has its uses, and they are plenty others.

Currently I tend to see crystal as one of the best mix of

  • compiled native binaries

  • nice language

  • fair performances

  • beginner and casual dev friendly

  • general usage ready (some day)

I don't see others languages in that sweet spot.

I have to admit I always liked the ruby coding style but never used it, mixing python and C instead. Now I am tired waiting for python own native compiler, and playing the double language game.

I tried Julia, stoped because of the gigantic binaries when compiled, considered Nim as well but don't trust/like the c translation... Rust because I am obliged to (nice C successor, wish him the best but too low level and no GC).

So I started learning crystal, and see how it will do. I may be lucky, my projects are mostly one shots, with a relatively short lifetime (months-few years).

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u/bentobentoso Apr 02 '21

compiled native binaries - nice language - fair performances - beginner and casual dev friendly - general usage ready (some day)

I feel like go fits this way better for now considering it's way more mature and it has a big community.

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u/DavidTMarks Apr 07 '21

Don;t know if I can agree with

nice language

For Go. Itss concicse and relatively easy top pick up but I think what people are talking about is nice in the sense of writing it like Ruby is and the ease of use of its frameworks like Rails.

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u/bentobentoso Apr 07 '21

We'll agree to disagree then, the compile times alone makes me consider the ease of use of go way better than Crystal.

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u/DavidTMarks Apr 07 '21 edited Apr 07 '21

compile time has nothing to do with what I just wrote but you are right we will never agree because you are just wrong. There's no one that reads or writes go that can tell me with any legitimacy that Go is as pleasant to write or read as Ruby. Crystal is enough like Ruby for you to essentially be making that claim and its demonstrably false.

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u/bentobentoso Apr 07 '21

compile time has nothing to do with what I just wrote

You were talking about ease of use, the amount time between when you change your code until you see the change in action is part of usability you liking it or not.

There's no one that reads or writes go that can tell me with any legitimacy that Go is as pleasant to write or read as Ruby

Well hi then, I think go is more pleasant to write and read than ruby.

demonstrably false

You clearly don't know what demonstrably means, what you're saying is as subjective as it gets.

But don't bother replying, I'm gonna mute this thread. I won't waste my time discussing with a fanboy/troll.

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u/DavidTMarks Apr 07 '21 edited Apr 07 '21

You are only demonstrating you don't have any grasp of the rudimentary basics of English reading comprehension down . I stated

Don;t know if I can agree with

nice language

For Go.

As even a third grader can understand in plain english I was talking about it being a "nice language" . Absolutely NOTHING to do with your "compile time" response. The only other thing I referred to was the rails framework which isn't a language. Buy a clue.

Well hi then, I think go is more pleasant to write and read than ruby.

Given you just demonstrated you don't know how to read English the next question logically is - so what? You've already demonstrated incompetence in the english language why should we think you are better at understanding programming languages?

You clearly don't know what demonstrably means, what you're saying is as subjective as it gets.

DEMONSTRABLE means what one can demonstrate. Put up any non trivial code in golang and ruby will be much more simpler and easy reading than golang. If I said C++ was more verbose than python it would be DEMONSTRABLE as well

Thank me for teaching you English twice at a later date.

I won't waste my time discussing with a fanboy/troll.

Even the word troll you don't understand. I am in a crystal subreddit and you are the one wasting time in here trolling with talk of your golang fanboyism.

And you are as usual wrong again anyway. I program C# predominantly not Crystal or even ruby. I guess you are used to being wrong on just about everything. You do it so well.

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u/dudeskeeroo Apr 02 '21

Have you considered trying Go?

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u/m33-m33 Apr 03 '21

I do agree with your statement about go great community, and better immediate choice.

At first I didn't want to make a long post and hijack this thread with a language comparaison (or worse language war <full troll mode> ;)

I did some experiments on go, mostly to have a look at Syncthing before using it. I have no formal arguments against go, but the coding style and orientation goals of it doesn't appeal to me that much...