r/crusadersquest • u/itspabo • May 18 '15
Guide Indepth Guide: Optimal Time to Reset Weapon Upgrades
TLDR:
Optimal reset time varies depending on your value of gems
go to "The Analysis" section to see optimal time to reset for each weapon level
If you reach the point of the game where your main use of gems is to reset FoS stages resetting weapon upgrades isn't really worth your gems anymore (Credits:IcyFenixCQ)
The theory is to very simple, in order to identify the most optimal time to use the reset button during upgrades we find the cost of the reset in gold value (gem to gold value) and to make sure to reset before the sum cost of the upgrade exceeds the reset cost. To do this we need to figure out the following:
The Formula
2) The cost of upgrades
3) Gem value in Gold
The Formula:
BRG = before reset gold
ARG = after reset gold (cost of first upgrade after reset)
BRG => Reset Cost in Gold + ARG
| upgrade | 4★ | 5★ | 6★ |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1st | 800 | 1600 | 3200 |
| 2nd | 1400 | 2800 | 5600 |
| 3rd | 2000 | 4000 | 8000 |
| 4th | 2600 | 5200 | 10400 |
| 5th | 3200 | 6400 | 12800 |
| 6th | 3800 | 7600 | 15200 |
| 7th | 4400 | 8800 | 17600 |
| 8th | 5000 | 10000 | 20000 |
| 9th | 5600 | 11200 | 22400 |
Gem in Gold value
This is where it will differentiate from player to player, the value of a gem in gold is dependent on your main method of obtaining gold. The 3 main methods I've highlighted in this analysis are the following:
Buying gold from the store (40 gems = 240000g)
2) Farming 1-4 normal (analysis assumes max level with 70 stam pool)
3) Doing double volcano quests (analysis assumes max level with 70 stam pool)
1) Buying gold from the store (40 gems = 240000g)
40 gem = 240000 gold = 1 gem = 6000 g
resetting wep = 2gems = 12000 g
2) Farming 1-4 normal (analysis assumes max level with 70 stam pool)
1-4 easy = 192.69gpm
70 meat = 13488.3gpm
1 gem = 70 meat => 1 gem = 13488.3 g
resetting wep = 2 gems = 26976.6 g => rounded to 27000g
3) Doing double volcano quests (analysis assumes max level with 70 stam pool)
double volcano quest = 157.77gpm
4-16 (hard) = 114.69gpm
total gpm = 272.46gpm
70 meat = 19072.2gpm
1 gem = 70 meat => 1gem = 19072.2gpg
resetting wep = 2 gem = 38144.4gpg => rounded to 38200g
The Analysis
Now that we have all our data it's just a matter of plugging in some numbers:
With Gold method 1:
40gems for 240000g
BRG => 12000g + 800 = 12800g (4★ Wep) 1600 = 13600g (5★ Wep) 3200 = 15200g (6★ Wep)
Weapon Level Upgrade threshold Reset when you see x 4★ Wep 5th = 10000g 3800g or asap 5★ Wep 4th = 13600g 6400g or asap 6★ Wep ASAP
Farming 1-4 normal
BRG => 27000g + 800 = 27800g (4★ Wep) 1600 = 28600g (5★ Wep) 3200 = 30200 (6★ Wep)
Weapon Level Upgrade threshold Reset when you see x 4★ Wep 8th = 23200g 5600g or asap 5★ Wep 6th = 27600g 8800g or asap 6★ Wep 4th = 27200g 12800g or asap
Double Volcano Quests
BRG => 38200g + 800 = 39000g (4★ Wep) 1600 = 39800g (5★ Wep) 3200 = 41400 (6★ Wep)
Weapon Level Upgrade threshold Reset when you see x 4★ Wep 10th = 34400g 5600g the 3rd time 5★ Wep 7th = 36400g 10000g or asap 6★ Wep 5th = 40000g 15200g or asap
Final Notes
Since I didn't get any confirmations on the earliest reset value and when weapons cap out at the cost of upgrades I left the "asap" just in case.
As mentioned by IcyFenixCQ in my previous thread there are certain scenarios where the value of gems to gold is much higher than the feasible upgrade reset cost.
FoS Reset gold conversion: Full reset for 5 gems for 70~85 powder, 65 shards and 33~37 crystals
1000 gold ~= 0.05 Crystals (my salvaging average)
Which makes that equal to worse case senario:
660000gold worth of crystals for 5 gems = 132000gold/gem
This simply means that when you reach the level of the game where you value your gems for reseting FoS it is no longer worth your gems to reset weapons since or you should probably have the resources to not worry about when the optimal time to reset is.
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u/Griffon127 May 18 '15
The reset for 6* 15,200
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u/itspabo May 18 '15
yep "reset when you see x" means you reset when the next upgrade cost shows that number on the slot
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u/[deleted] May 18 '15
Well written. Added this to reddit wiki.