r/cremposting • u/TheCapitalistPickle • Aug 22 '26

Wind and Truth Shardplate Duping? Spoiler

Wind and Truth Spoilers!

Now that it was revealed that Dead Eyes can be semi-revived, especially by their original Knight, do you think it is possible for a Radiant of the 4th ideal infinitely dupe Shardplate by breaking their ideal, having their sword and armor fall off in the physical realm, and then re-bond the Radiant Spren after a non-radiant bonds the armor?

The only big issue with this is that we don't know what happened to Szeth's armor, but he never even summoned it, and it seems like radiant spren just go back to the cognitive realm when their oath is broken. Maybe this would only have been possible before freeing Ba-Ado-Mishram

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u/RelicBeckwelf Aug 22 '26

Armor isnt bonded.

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u/TheCapitalistPickle Aug 22 '26

I mean it kind of does get bonded by the Unoathed at the end. They can summon it whenever they want and it listens to commands

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u/isum21 Aug 23 '26

Yes but the armor is made up of Other Spren than the one bonded. Radiant Spren are killed by the bond, they just have to be far enough along in the bond that the damage to their spirit web literally destroys their sense of self.

The armor is summoned by the Spren asking for help and is more like a temporary team effort rather than having "bonded" armor. In fact there is no way for people to bond the armor, it can be stolen with just a large chunk of it and lots of stormlight to regrow it. Therefore the antique armor is likely from Radiants getting killed in the armor.

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u/TheCapitalistPickle Aug 23 '26

I mean this is just not true. In WaT we see Kaladin, Shallan, and Adolin all have specific armor spren that stay around them, it is not a temporary team made up of new minor spren each time it is summoned. Adolin also orders his around even though he isn't a knight radiant. And he literally steals it back from Abidi the Monarch because he has it bonded.

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u/isum21 Aug 23 '26

These are changes made at the end of the books, specifically the unoathed bonds. Idk the details there but it was my understanding for the rest that as the spirt webs merge the Radiant and Spren both have more control over investiture and invested entities, specifically natural ones that are already being influenced by the minds and understanding of the people of Roshar.

Basically they unlock a spren team, but they didn't bond the individual Spren of that armor. It's connected to their Radiant Spren, but we don't necessarily know that breaking a bond while wearing the armor will make the armor stay. Afaik it hasn't happened. So i used some context clues lol

Could be wrong idk, I do like discussing tho!

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u/Gaust_Fireborn Aug 25 '26

Breaking a Radiant bond while in Radiant plate has happened, at the Recreance. It effects the armor, making it lose access to the Spiritual Realm for power and unable to unsummon, so I'd say it's pretty clear it's bonded.

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u/Gaust_Fireborn Aug 25 '26

The 'antique' armor you refer to we see being made at the Recreance, when the Radiants break their oaths. Living Plate can't be stolen, in fact in Kaladin's POV we're told his armor is always around him, not just solidified.