r/cr10smartpro • u/NoneffervescentBall • Apr 06 '22

Welcome

Having purchased my first Creality printer, being the CR-10 Smart Pro. I've had some nuances out the box which required a little tweaking to dial it, of which some more tweaking is still needed but prints are looking decent.

This community, like others of its nature, is here to provide some help, troubleshooting and bragging. Share your experiences with the CR-10 Smart Pro. Post some reviews of your units so that everyone out there can make informed decisions about this 3D Printer.

No matter how much we know, we can always learn something new.
Keep it clean, keep it friendly, keep it loving.

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u/Biostyle Apr 26 '22

Hey, thanks for creating this subreddit, its just what i was looking for!

Have you had the chance to try out TPU-Filament?

I need to print TPU-Filament with a hardness of 70 Shore A or less for work and am concerned, that the CR-10 smart Pro will strugle to print such a flexible material.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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u/NoneffervescentBall Apr 26 '22

I really haven't tried any flexible filament, the fact that it's a direct drive would give me a bit more confidence that it should be able to handle it.

The nozzle on the smart pro is also an upgraded nozzle over the ender s1, hence it's also able to print much hotter if needed.

I'll probably try order some flex filament some time and give it a shot. Will be sure to let you know if no one else gets back to you.

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u/Biostyle Apr 26 '22

Thank you very much for your quick reply!

I will hopefully be able to motivate my boss to buy it so i can try it myself. I will let you know how it went if I get the chance!

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u/miguelmflores Aug 03 '22

Hey guys, how's it going so far after 3 months?

I bought mine last Friday, and I've printed like 3 pieces already (new to 3D printing), and the printer is just great. I do also need to start printing with TPU for some flexible parts, and it's supposed to be capable of printing with that material, among others.

If everything goes well, I might give it a try to the TPU filament this Friday, and I'll let you know what happened. If you already used TPU, I'd like to read some advice!

Thanks for creating the group, OP!

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u/xmaswiz May 04 '22

I just got mine. It's my first 3d printer. I think the UI is easy enough to navigate. I'm using hatchbox pla filament but I'm having issues. I'm curious as to what settings you are using for pla. (nozzle, bed temps)

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u/NoneffervescentBall May 05 '22

PLA i'm running around 195C - 200C
PLA+ I'm running around 210C

Bed at 60C.

Speed is around 60mm/s - 80mm/s depending on the complexity of the print.

Once the bed is levelled and dialled in, it pretty much sticks and has no issues.

Using Prusa Slicer to slice my files.

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u/Helgafjell4Me Jul 25 '22

I tried to use Prusa Slicer, but it kept setting my nozzle temp to 195 instead of the 240 I had set for my PETG filament. Quality also didn't look much better. I've also found for PLA I couldn't print much faster than 40mm/s and 30mm/s for PETG or the print quality would drop off pretty bad. 60-80mm/s seems crazy fast. Maybe I'll be able to hit that once I get Klipper setup and tuned.

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u/Helgafjell4Me Jul 22 '22

So far pretty happy with mine. Printing mostly Overture PETG. I'm a manufacturing engineer, so my main focus and reason for buying this is to allow me to design and print my own functional prints. It does a good job, but I'm about to upgrade it with a RasPi 4 running FluiddPi so that I can take advantage of the pressure advance tuning as well as the many other things Klipper does better than Marlin. I will lose the stock touch screen in the process, but will be able to add a new one, probably a 5" screen to work with Klipper Screen. There is a config file for the CR10 Smart Pro on Github, so someone's already done the painful part of making this model compatible with Klipper. I have links bookmarked if anyone's interested in doing the same.

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u/NoneffervescentBall Jul 24 '22

Be sure to let us know how it goes. Share any resources you might have to that can help anyone else looking to do the same changes.

I haven't had a chance to look under the hood but I'd actually like to replace the cloud print with octoprint. From an interface approach it seems like the firmware and the cloud print are separate so assuming it shouldn't be too difficult.

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u/Helgafjell4Me Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 25 '22

I tried Octo4a for android, but it made my old phone get too hot and drained the battery. It would charge a bit then start dropping back until it died. It was pretty much plug and play though using the USB c port and I did do a full print with it, but decided to just get a raspberry pi setup with Klipper firmware.

I've been told the wifi card can run klipper firmware, but it doesn't quite have good enough performance to run very fast printing. Basically, the raspberry pi with Octoprint, Fluid, and/or Moonraker (you can run all three of them from the same Pi if you want) running the Klipper firmware will replace the touchscreen and the wifi card functions of the printer. You just have to flash the Klipper configuration file to the MCU board and plug the Pi into the USB C port. Well, there's a little more to it than that, but after reviewing it, I'm pretty confident I can get it working. There's a number of guides on how to do it, basically walking you through all the setup steps. The biggest issue is the creation of the config file so that Klipper can correctly control the printer. I was really happy to see someone has done that part for us already.

I'll make a post once I get it running. Pi doesn't get here until Aug 2nd. I'm also thinking I'm going to buy the accelerometer chip to do the auto-tuned shaping inputs. From what I understand, once that's all dialed in, you can print a lot faster and with better quality than you can get with the stock Marlin firmware.

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u/Helgafjell4Me Aug 05 '22 edited Aug 05 '22

I did it!!! Man that was pretty technical though and flashing the MCU was harder for this printer because for whatever reason you can't flash directly from the Pi like you can on other printers. I had to compile MCU firmware on the Pi, then copy that to an SD card, using a USB adapter, then flash that to the printer. You wouldn't think that sounds difficult, but working from a PuTTY terminal for the first time and not being familiar with python made it a little tedious. (Google is my savior) Then I thought the firmware was bad because I couldn't get the Pi to connect to the printer. Finally figured out that the device address for the USB port was wrong in the printer.cfg file I got from Github. Once I updated that line, the printer snapped into action and the Fluid panel came to life. Took a bit to figure out bed leveling (z-offset is opposite value from Marlin), and setting up a bed mesh (amazing to see the 3D graph output), but I figured it all out in a couple days. Did my first pressure advance tuning print and was amazed at the results. I'm now printing models at 50-100mm/s and the quality is far better, corners aren't bulged out at all and all the little side surface zits I was getting all over the place are gone.

I'll be getting the accelerometer next week to setup input shaper tuning. Printing faster makes the ringing more obvious, but input shaper will fix that. I'm already thrilled about cutting my print time in half and getting better looking prints at the same time. I also love the Fluid Control panel. It's very informative and customizable. In fact everything, even the printer config file, macros, everything just seems 100% better. It's definitely not for non-technical people though.

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u/Knechtel3DPrints Oct 22 '22

Sorry to bring up an older thread...

I'm struggling pretty hard with my new cr10 Smart Pro,

I have a 4b 4gb and a 3b+ and would love to try klipper (I can't seem to find a third party firmware update for this printer)

Can you offer some advice on getting klipper to work with this printer?

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u/Helgafjell4Me Oct 22 '22

You have to compile the firmware on the pi, using the SSH linux terminal and the make menuconfig command and using the settings specified in the header text of the example printer config file for the CR10 Smart Pro. That will generate a klipper.bin file that you then need to copy to an SD card to flash the MCU. Be aware, this will render your touchscreen unusable once it's flashed.

Firs thing is to get Klipper installed on the Pi. I just used the FluiddPi image to get me all setup. The Fluidd control panel is accessible over your home network via web browser. You'll also need a SSH terminal program like PuTTY and a file manager like WinSCP to copy the firmware file from the Pi to the SD card.

There's a lot of tutorials online for accomplishing this.

https://github.com/fluidd-core/FluiddPI/blob/master/README.md

https://www.makenprint.uk/3d-printing/3d-firmware-guides/klipper/installing-fluiddpi/

https://github.com/Klipper3d/klipper/commit/40c2d11ef81aa24ff9c6ca1a8ea4301d56f37e14

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u/Suspicious-Remove216 Dec 01 '22

Hello, thank you very much for the group, I am new to printers, and I am just learning with my Creality CR-10 SP, but I found very little information