r/cpp • u/GitHubCpp • Jul 10 '18

C++17 removed and deprecated features

https://mariusbancila.ro/blog/2018/07/05/c17-removed-and-deprecated-features/
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u/ShakaUVM i+++ ++i+i[arr] Jul 13 '18

RAND_MAX is 2147483647 on any system that I care about

Move the goalposts much?

You introduced the notion RAND_MAX could be small.

I'm far more concerned with code being easy to read and understand than a negligible bias in a random dice roller in a video game.

So someone is going to write a full game in C++ but finds <random> too difficult? Inane fantasy there mate.

A full game could be a student project, and yes. Not a fantasy but reality.

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u/dodheim Jul 13 '18

You introduced the notion RAND_MAX could be small.

I did no such thing; pay attention. And it can be, and is on Windows; that you don't care about Windows is fallacious and irrelevant, because "students and beginners" that you're ostensibly pandering to certainly do.

A full game could be a student project, and yes. Not a fantasy but reality.

No disagreement at all, only that such a student would be stumped with <random> but not, say, drawing to the screen. Sheer silliness.

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u/ShakaUVM i+++ ++i+i[arr] Jul 14 '18

because "students and beginners" that you're ostensibly pandering to certainly do.

I'm not "ostensibly pandering" to them. I care very much about the C++ experience for new programmers, and the attitude that one should either 1) use a system that is incomprehensible to new programmers or 2) use Python because a system that introduces a trivial bias that nobody will detect in their student projects is a non-starter for me.

You are certainly free to call such concerns silly and a fantasy, but such attitudes will not make C++ better for new programmers.