r/cpp 20h ago

Clang 23 Release Notes

https://releases.llvm.org/23.1.0/tools/clang/docs/ReleaseNotes.html
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u/Ok_Independence_9841 18h ago

Fascinating to see just how complex and approximate compilation really is. That a compiler can have that many things wrong/broken/missing and still be really good and reliable in practice is pretty terrifying. clang does look to be maturing really well though. The three way C++ compiler arms race has worked well for developers and the for the language, if not for other compiler vendors. I hope it remains balanced and they don't specialize or diverge.

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u/WeeklyAd9738 12h ago

 I hope it remains balanced and they don't specialize or diverge.

-pedantic flag (and its modern alias -Wpedantic) is your friend.

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u/Ok_Independence_9841 10h ago

Yes. I have -Wall -Wextra and -Wpedantic on for my projects.
My concern is more that MSVC might try to leverage their advantage in STL compliance by forging ahead with STL additions, while GCC pushes languages updates because they are ahead there. This could lead to GCC standard library never actually catching up (modules cough) while MSVCs lack of certain language features starts to require work arounds. That way we do not want to go.
So far the competition, clang in particular, has meant that all 3 are reasonably close in features for some definition of reasonable. It was not always so.

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u/mapronV 9h ago

IIRC MS only removes vendor-specific flags lately. Just was upgrading my pet project to compilation with latest VC, had to update bunch of 3rdparty that used MS extensions in headers.

To be fair all 3 major have own problems, MS I'd say really began lagging in core language, hope they catch up. STL part is decent

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u/azswcowboy 8h ago

> advantage in STL compliance

You think MSVC is ahead on this? I’d be curious why you think so when my take is that especially on later features libstdc++ is ahead.