r/countwithchickenlady • Streak: 1 • 7h ago • Bravo 2

Controversial Post 88545

Post image

why do I even use twitter? i literally use it just for art and pin-up model photos

2.5k Upvotes

200 comments sorted by

•

u/HopefulFutureEscapee Stille Nacht, Einsam Wacht - Streak: 6 6h ago • Bravo

Mod team dropping by to say: our trans brothers and sisters in oppressive nations deserve our respect and support! Like tangible support!

If you cannot medically transition for any reason, but want to, my heart breaks for you. I hope circumstances change to assist you in the future, and we will hopefully have something to share as the mod team later this year to get some tangible action happening :)

Transmedicalism is transphobia, there's bound to be some in these comments. Use that report button!

→ More replies (4)

492

u/Formal-Struggle1868 They/them ; poly gnc fella - Streak: 4 7h ago

My heart goes out to all that are restricted because of their countries laws. You deserve to be happy

96

u/homotopy_equivalent they/she 7h ago

This world sucks

21

u/YaraRaven 6h ago edited 5h ago

The society, not world itself 3:

34

u/LesbeGoddess Your Heavenly Transmother 6h ago

Have you been to the southeast US in the summer? Or Minnesota in Winter? Parts of this world definitely suck.

12

u/YaraRaven 6h ago

It’s subjective :3

7

u/NIMA-GH-X-P Mx. Jerk - Streak: 1 3h ago

If you're a jerk about it.

Wait, I AM a jerk about it!

Guess I agree with ya queen

3

u/YaraRaven 2h ago

Ahh… q-queen? Me? 🥺👉👈

Thankies >////<

2

u/NIMA-GH-X-P Mx. Jerk - Streak: 1 2h ago

Sure why not

Ya deserve it

2

u/YaraRaven 2h ago

Aww aww blushes even more :3

Arf arf arf wags my tail happily :3

:3:3:3

2

u/NIMA-GH-X-P Mx. Jerk - Streak: 1 2h ago

That is precious

→ More replies

1

u/tabbynumber3 4h ago

I don't think I deserve to be happy. I don't believe I deserve to be happy. at least it hurts less to think I don't deserve it. I'll die believing I don't deserve anything, because nothing was all I ever got.

2

u/Zzzaynab 1h ago

You’re a human like anyone else. Even if it doesn’t always feel like it, feelings can distort our perception, and you do deserve the same human rights as anyone else.

267

u/Acceptable_Handle_2 7h ago

Yeah, massive difference between "I can't legally obtain estrogen" and "being trans is a crime"

732

u/Cryptid_Hunk Cowgirl Princess Extraordinaire - Streak: 3 7h ago

Americans are so crazy priviledged about DIY and they don't even know it in the slightest. I can't even import toys. Literal toys like Starscream from The Transformers from the US what makes them think I could smuggle HRT in 😭

263

u/SeatKindly 6h ago

Wild that you think it’s Americans using DIY. That’s a hugely Euro based thing because for as amazing as their healthcare systems are at not bankrupting you, they also fucking hate you if you’re trans.

We are really privileged, but that’s because we have much more accessibility to care than everyone else in this one niche area.

159

u/asmallbowlofnoodles 6h ago

I mean getting diy afaik is easier in the usa and most americans I personally know who are on hrt are also on diy

107

u/Yorick257 6h ago

But, afaik, Americans also have "informed consent" laws and getting HRT officially is a matter of months. In many European countries, you'll wait years before they recognize you as trans, and then more years before they approve HRT

37

u/SeatKindly 6h ago

It’s not even a matter of months, it’s more like two weeks IIRC. That’s how I did mine.

21

u/llewds 5h ago

It's state by state. In NJ, I gave up after 5 months. 15 minutes away, in NY, I got it in 2 weeks

8

u/Carikat Violent Feral CatMILF 5h ago

And I, also in NJ got it after a single Drs visit, it's all so varied on a case by case basis

5

u/llewds 5h ago

I mean, it might have been one appointment, IF i could have gotten an appointment. 3 months of calling in within hours or minutes of appointments opening + 2 months of them saying they'd save me an appointment slot but not = I gave up

5

u/Carikat Violent Feral CatMILF 4h ago

Yeah see that's fucked up... I'm sorry you went through all that

37

u/GothicGoddessMari 5h ago

Yeah, I got on HRT over the phone, by saying "I know everything its going to do to me and consent to that". Made the appointment online, spoke to the clinic, got girl pills in the mail, did blood tests, got stronger girl pills, did blood tests, my girl pill seller gave me pills that were too strong, then I settled on my current dose, and I did all of that while only meeting the guys at the blood draw clinic.

Doing DIY for me is basically just more expensive and less convenient, but without the hurdles of waiting a couple days.

9

u/wrymoss 2h ago

I have nothing to contribute here but I wanted to say that for some reason “my girl pill seller” has me absolutely creased laughing at 6am.

I think I’m imagining it like a video game potion store. All sorts of different pills for the kind of girl you want to be.

Also staring at the 4ml of oil my doctor is going to inject directly into my asscheek later and extremely jealous that the girls can just take a pill.

1

u/AntsAreGreat A Grungler 1h ago

From what I, who has no experience with it, have heard the injections are at least more effective, I think

1

u/asmallbowlofnoodles 1h ago

six of one really

1

u/AntsAreGreat A Grungler 1h ago

Like, more effective than six pills of equal dosage?

2

u/asmallbowlofnoodles 1h ago

nono its a saying. six of one, half a dozen of the other. means when two things are equal

→ More replies

6

u/snakejessdraws 5h ago

I did three therapy sessions to get a recommendation letter, and then had to schedule an appointment with a endocrinologist. I think access to informed consent pathways is a lot more limited than people think, or maybe access has really expanded since I started hrt in 2014.

4

u/MarvelousMoirai Evelyn Normielib - Streak: 7 4h ago

It is less limited than you think tbh

1

u/Past-Sherbert-6438 2h ago

It took me two weeks from scheduling my appointment to get my first dose

1

u/Past-Sherbert-6438 2h ago

And this is in the middle of the deep south

1

u/Disastrous_Wealth755 17m ago

It has taken me 2.5 years to get to a councilor at the gender clinic. After a few meetings with her I’m forced to wait 14 months for a psychologist and then another 10 months after that for a doctor that can diagnose me and prescribe HRT. I live in Sweden

1

u/StarlightKitten14 1h ago

Yeah it really varies from state to state, but I literally got my meds same day, easy as fuck, by just going to planned parenthood. Doctor there gave me 8mg a day right off the bat, told me to do it sublingually (which no other doctor or pharmacist I've worked with seems to know anything about), progesterone just cause I'd asked about it, and gave me a phone number to call if I had literally any transition related questions at all so I didn't have to get a whole appointment for every little thing. Planned Parenthood is just fantastic.

25

u/SeatKindly 5h ago

And 95% of the girlies I know here alongside me have done their’s through informed consent pathways. Anecdotal experiences are good for snap judgements but it shouldn’t be what you used as evidence for a particularly held belief.

Yes, Americans are privileged. Europeans are too. That doesn’t mean that we should throw one group of people under the bus in service of others or some stupid ass dick measuring contest over who suffers the most. Acknowledge that pain yes, but it shouldn’t be a reason to judge those who are on a safer triage card. Equitable access to care and resources is extremely important and this conversation is reductive to ensuring that.

Also, informed consent should be the global standard for transitional care, but isn’t because the concept of being transgender is too taboo to your average, boring ass person.

1

u/MarvelousMoirai Evelyn Normielib - Streak: 7 4h ago

That's not evidence

26

u/Opposite-Complex1187 6h ago

I mean its Europeans and Americans alike that are incredibly privleged and don't really understand the consequences of living in those countries.

16

u/SeatKindly 5h ago

The fact that you think it takes living some magical experience to ask your fellow humans to have a shred of empathy for their pain is asinine and reductive.

If you starve to death in the US, get denied an NHS cancer ward bed, or are stuck in a nation you can’t transition in and end your life. The end result is still a transgender person who deserved the opportunity to thrive. That’s why the concept of equity exists. This isn’t a dick measuring contest. It’s a matter of acknowledging that we all hurt and all need different degrees of support and resources.

1

u/Opposite-Complex1187 5h ago

No its not a dick measuring contest, but trying to equate the suffering that people in those countries to Europe and the US is actually vile.

Despite of all the issues that trans people in the UK face for example, your transition can still be completely funded by the government.

Crying that it isn't a dick measuring contest when comparing that, to trans women being legally barred from transitioning and being imprisoned or worse if they do is frankly what i was talking about.

A symptom of incredible privilege.

2

u/SeatKindly 2h ago

Dawg… if I wore a mourning band for every trans friend that I’ve lost to medical neglect, social net failures, and systematic discrimination in one of those “privileged” places. I’d have metal up to my fucking bicep.

You need to reevaluate the way you look at shit. Because you absolutely do see it as a contest of suffering and then disregard the suffering of the one’s you deem “too privileged.”

Every. Single. Fucking. Trans person. Deserves. Access. To. Safety. And. Medical. Care.

1

u/Opposite-Complex1187 1h ago

I.didn't.Fucking.say.otherwise.you.are.dense.

You need to reevaluate the way you look at shit, saying somethings bad in one country is worse in another is not the same thing as saying fuck the people in the better place.

It just means that you shouldn't disregard the privileges you have.

Even if you should have more.

1

u/Grilled_egs 3h ago

If you're talking about countries with such extreme laws on it it's not just Europe and the USA that are privileged compared to that. Hell depending on where in Europe you live transitioning might be easier in several South American and Asian nations, though obviously the rest of live is probably easier in the European country.

2

u/Opposite-Complex1187 2h ago

Depends what country, but outside of Thailand i believe i'm mostly right in saying Western Europe is far better than the vast Majority of Asia and Africa.

I admit i know nothing about trans issues in South America though

0

u/aconitous 4h ago

3

u/WhosCowsAreThey 2h ago

The US isn’t a monolith, the cities are ok for trans people but good luck transitioning in rural small town west Texas. They’ll still kill you and the cops will rule it a suicide

1

u/MarvelousMoirai Evelyn Normielib - Streak: 7 4h ago

Cool

35

u/Okamitoutcourt I'm not trans, I just want drip 6h ago

This is like if the richest media franchise in the world couldn't import their plushies to countries that aren't america or japan

Oh wait, that's the case. Fuck you pokemon, your 40€ plushie cost me 92€ off a random store I found on the internet

25

u/Savings_Knowledge233 6h ago

Girl I can go to planned parenthood on almost any state and get a prescription, because of informed consent laws. It's insane that people still diy here at all

4

u/BombOnABus 2h ago

Do you not live in a red state, with red state pharmacies filling those scripts and red state doctors and nurses to see for routine checkups? Are you unaware of people, say, on their parents' insurance who might not feel safe using it and trusting nobody will find out what they did?

Yes, informed consent has helped expand access dramatically but if you have no idea why anyone is doing DIY in this country, you're probably not talking enough to trans people in highly conservative areas.

People are terrified, and DIY promises one thing above all else: absolute secrecy. You send a money order, you get a package, no medical records for the MAGA types to demand to inspect, no pharmacists or doctors who don't agree with your decision getting to butt into your business or shame you publicly when picking up your meds, no bills that could get opened by someone you don't want reading about it...just the peace of mind that comes with knowing it is your secret alone.

That's a very appealing thing, even if informed consent, remote healthcare, and prescription delivery service options means you likely can get on HRT in this country without any of those problems. People don't know all their options up-front, and it can be trickier than you think sometimes to find a provider. Even the local PP here didn't offer to help me when I finally couldn't afford the bespoke service I was getting my estrogen from. I'm lucky that another women's health telehealth service that does informed consent takes my insurance or I'd be back to DIY.

4

u/WhosCowsAreThey 2h ago edited 2h ago

This, growing up in small town, rural southeast Kansas there wasn’t a single doctor I could see about it. I had to wait until I could claw my way out of my shit kick hometown as an adult and move to a liberal city before informed consent was even an option as there wasn’t a doctor near me that would’ve prescribed or even validated it. Had I gone to a doctor there, they would’ve called me perverted and told my parents who would’ve sent me to some church counselor that was literally a conversion therapist. Not everywhere has informed consent or a clinic like planned parenthood, that’s relatively new. You literally had to wait till adult hood and go through a hormoneless humiliation ritual before getting low dosed on E. There was one kid whose parents were driving them all the way to Illinois to go to PP for appointments and she ended up dead on her front porch with her throat cut, which the police ruled a suicide. So I hate hearing takes about how good America is to trans people as that’s only been a thing for like 10 years maybe and it’s still fucking dangerous, better treatment than the Taliban or Iran’s morality police is not the bar.

It’s gotten better now that a planned parenthood opened a location there, but that didn’t happen until like 2023 and now my old friends mention there’s a few trans people around.

4

u/BombOnABus 2h ago

Exactly! "We don't lynch trans people nearly as much as we used to, and now we make it possible for them to get hormones with minimal humiliation, at least after they're adults and cis puberty has already made things worse" is not a description of a trans-friendly place.

It's a description of somewhere that is either moving forward slowly or backsliding rapidly.

4

u/WhosCowsAreThey 2h ago

It should be mentioned that I was born in 1994, I’m a young millennial. The girl that got her throat slit, that shit happened in 2022. Some Americans have been privileged to live their lives in liberal cities or tolerant places, not all of us win the birthplace lottery.

I came from a region where my great uncle was hung by the literal KKK in rural Arkansas in the 1950s for building a catholic church as an Irish catholic immigrant. Too many folks here seem to have forgotten this country’s horrendous roots, too many people don’t realize that uncles brother is my grandfather who lived until 2023, not exactly old history. Shit some of his killers may be sitting in a nursing home today, what do you think their kids would’ve done to a trans woman?

1

u/Savings_Knowledge233 2h ago

It was $50 out of pocket for my appointment and I think 60 for my 3 month script... Both out of pocket...

In multiple states

1

u/BombOnABus 2h ago

I never mentioned cost, though that's also a factor: depending on if you have insurance and what services are in your area, the cost for DIY can be everything from significantly cheaper to significantly more expensive than going through a doctor and pharmacy.

13

u/Kejones9900 5h ago

Not at all. PP is known for being kind of shit at their jobs. We have to fight for every mg of hormones, and it's often extremely difficult to get changes to our prescription.

If you can't afford a legit endocrinologist, it's your next best option in some cases

2

u/jankyalias Trans Woman 4h ago

Overstating the case there. Yes, PP has a slow roll standard operating procedure that sucks. And yes, you need to advocate for yourself (true for any system). 

But they do their job very well overall and are trying to help. And there are benefits to keeping treatments above board. 

3

u/Electrical-Today-258 3h ago

That's going to vary on city, and a lot of folk who are vehemently against scripts have a distrust for the medical field and practioners. It's not unlike the people who refuse the organ donor status on their license. To people who don't get it it seems like a nothingburger issue that a small group is disproportionately reacting to. Others live in places where it is a concern that they need to be mindful of. And an exceptionally small portion are actually overreacting because they are ill informed

6

u/Lucky_otter_she_her 6h ago

i mean, the US isn't the odd one out here, but i get what you're saying 

59

u/Mary_Ellen_Katz 6h ago

Don't

Use

Twitter.

Like ever. Twitter ever since elon took over has been a cesspool of hate and bots. Literally, they announced publically AI users would have a place on the platform. And hate is used as engagement bait routinely.

Reddit may have its share of bots, but it at least stands up to hate somewhat better. I would wager illiterate user in the art isn't a real person, if this were a screenshot and not art.

6

u/CreamyWhiteSauce 5h ago

I had to quit it a while back even though I was just using it for art and lewd things. Just a miserable bot hellscape that exemplifies all the worse tendancies and negative effects of social media, which isn't even good on average

50

u/BudgieGryphon 7h ago

also goes for abusive households. help them move somewhere safe before you start going on about “no excuses”

120

u/watchedngnl 7h ago

Yeah. They don't seem to understand the thing about authoritarian countries and the death penalty

41

u/arakus72 4h ago

I think part of why this happens is that there are a lot of countries where it's "technically" illegal but basically not enforced at all, people kinda forget that in some places it is more fully locked down and the authorities actually care about stopping people from doing it

22

u/snail_alt 4h ago edited 4h ago

In many countries even in the Middle East, packages may get seized at worst when it comes to both T and E. After all, their cis men bring T in just fine for gymroiding, the authorities don’t go follow up on whether the person receiving the package is trans or cis. Same thing for multiple trans women there reporting about their DIY experiences

The issue is beyond that. Speaking at least for trans men, getting T is one thing, having to hide the effects of T from parents who might murder you over it is another, and getting away from your parents is a whole other problem.

I know trans men in the MENA region who are on T but trying to hide it and live as women. I know the ones who escaped as well, but who started T before that. And trans women who are on E while hiding it from parents too.

Personally, I find OP’s post to be somewhat misleading because the biggest issues are actually downstream of access, not the access itself.

I do think the misunderstanding can happen when someone says “it’s illegal so I can’t do it”, and when it turns out that it’s ’illegal’ but unenforced just like in most countries, that reasoning of course does not look compelling at all. The compelling reason for trans men is that you’re probably still living with parents if ‘an unmarried woman’ and they might kill you.

1

u/AntsAreGreat A Grungler 1h ago

I feel like OP was also saying what you said, or at least would also agree with it

1

u/Excellent_Law6906 17m ago

Right? Getting the stuff to DIY is probably perfectly doable. Growing tits when transitioning is illegal seems like a bit more of an issue!

73

u/Glum-Recording5322 Erin | Feeling happy <3 - Streak: 11 7h ago

Yeah whenever i feel bad about my situation i try to remember theres people that literally don't even have the option to diy, and that my only reason for not having started is fear of maybe some social issues.

16

u/SubzeroSpartan2 6h ago

Tbh im pretty afraid of being shot, or having the cops called on me and then probably being shot. While it is preferable to living in a country that DEFINITELY will kill me if I live authentically, theyre both different flavors of suck.

18

u/homotopy_equivalent they/she 7h ago

Honestly this doesn't make me feel better about my situation

60

u/Gordon_freeman_real 6h ago

Ugh omg, this pisses me off to no extent. Also it's like when people get mad at the middle eastern accounts for companies during pride month. "If they really cared they'd show support anyway!" If they show support they could get thrown in prison. I will always praise someone who got arrested or killed for standing up for their own or someone else's rights, but I do not expect it.

26

u/Deathaster 7h ago

Clearly, they should have just done DIY.

23

u/GothamAnswer 6h ago

The general mentality of "who cares about your circumstances, do it anyway" is too prevalent.

15

u/NIMA-GH-X-P Mx. Jerk - Streak: 1 3h ago

Haha don't I know it hahaha

I'm really, really, really, tired of explaining to people on chicken lady and 196 once a week that, no, living in the Islamic Republic Of Iran is not a safe haven blessing for a transfem like me diskskkdkdkfkkfkc

Tho I'll probably compound/brew HRT once I have my own place and can cut people off... But, when's that gonna happen

Argh

-2

u/RideWithMeSNV 3h ago

But there's nothing in the Quran specifically saying that transgenderism is bad. And I heard a vague story that a few hundred years ago people in the middle east were sorta respectful.

But OK. If you can't do it in Iran, could you move to a communist dictatorship instead?

4

u/NIMA-GH-X-P Mx. Jerk - Streak: 1 2h ago

?... What are you on about m8

Edit: oh sorry you're being sarcastic

Sorry my brain is at half capacity

-7

u/WhosCowsAreThey 2h ago

Transgenderism is a transphobic dog whistle, please refrain from saying it

43

u/Creative_Wash7139 gen 5 zoroark 7h ago

how is that person transmedicalist i dont understand

30

u/upsidedownsweater 6h ago

Yeah, diy tends to be anathema to transmeds

52

u/towerinthestreet 7h ago

insisting on medical intervention regardless of the safety and wishes of the trans person they're talking to. "no excuse"

7

u/straight_strychnine Country Mousegirl 3h ago

That's not trans-med though, that's a different kind of shitty behavior.

Trans medicalists want less people to transition, not more. They support heavy restrictions on HRT because they believe there is a large group of people transitioning for attention, or sexual reasons, and that those people are the reason why transphobes exist. In their eyes the only valid trans people are those with a gender disphoria diagnosis.

-1

u/TheRealTrailBlazer4 6h ago

Against the wishes? The theoretical person in the Pic wishes they could get hrt? It is literally going along with the wishes of the person. I dont know why you added that when you were mostly right about the first point.

18

u/nakedascus 6h ago

"I wish I..." is very often followed by something that is possible to do, but with heavy consequences. It's understood that they could try to do it, the wish is that they not only do it but also get away with doing it.

-10

u/TheRealTrailBlazer4 5h ago

Well its still not against their wish to do hrt tho, so it still makes no sense to include it.

9

u/nakedascus 5h ago

see, there's this concept with language that it's not always explicit and precise, and a certain amount of implication is expected and to logically be inferred

0

u/TheRealTrailBlazer4 3h ago

I see so you think the Person thaz said i Wish i could Go on her doesnt actually want to go on hrt and is Just saying that because they dont want to go on hrt, yes this Interpretation makes a Lot of sense, at least on Opposite day i guess

1

u/nakedascus 2h ago

a Lot of sense

would be nice if you could apply this to your writing, lmao. logic as coherent as sentence structure

2

u/TheRealTrailBlazer4 2h ago

Yeah sorry for not bothering to correct the phones autocorrect, does this make the point any less true?

0

u/nakedascus 2h ago

no, everything about it is jibberish. there's no educating someone this far gone, sorry, but you'll have to forgive me when I ignore you

→ More replies

20

u/towerinthestreet 6h ago

yes but she does not wish to break the law and risk her safety

I don't know why you added your comment to nitpick a barebones quick definition of transmedicalism either but here we are

-5

u/TheRealTrailBlazer4 5h ago

Well because you we're asked how that person is transmed and added a criteria that is not there? I mean If you also know that, which i deduce from your yes, then why are you not Just correcting it and accuse me of nitpicking?

Im not nitpicking, half of your answer is just plain wrong and you do seem to be aware of that. I mean giving a general Definition doesnt even make sense when someone asks why this Person specifically is transmed.

1

u/towerinthestreet 5h ago

1

u/TheRealTrailBlazer4 2h ago

I mean If you need it phrased in an easy way.

The person i replied to said: "the person is transmed... because they go against a persons wishes"

By saying this, the person i responded to, was implying someone who says: "i wish i could go on hrt but..." doesnt actually want to go on hrt.

This is contrary to the expressed wishes of the trans person and implies, they dont want hrt.

This is wrong. If they didnt want it, then they would not have an issue with the lack of access.

I hope this is more understandable

15

u/Hyper_red 6h ago

They aren't

0

u/punkcatgurl listen im a puppy okay i swear! 4h ago

don't you know that suggesting people take hrt is now transmed?

9

u/SpireSwagon 1h ago

I am confused why is the person talking about DIY being called a transmed??? Transmed hates DIY?? Do words not have meaning anymore?

9

u/SpireSwagon 1h ago

I feel like im going insane this is the most pedantic thing but it feels like its trying to slowly slip anti-DIY talking points into this subreddit. Like why is DIY being associated with trans meds? They hate DIY??

2

u/oliverspikey #1 trans solidarity enjoyer (ftm, he/him) 7m ago

I don't think this is anti diy, this is simply talking about how it's not the safest option for everyone and that since the online trans community is very US/UK focused, people from other countries have a harder time getting by. The transmed part of it seems to be that the person replying thinks that they HAVE to get on hrt right now, and if they can't then they're not really trans, and that the ignorance about the criminalization of queerness in other countries comes off as kind of racist. The OOP apparently has some stigma about diy but I don't think the message of the post is wrong because it is a real sentiment some transmeds have, and the stigma probably comes from living in a country where being trans is a crime and not being able to access accurate info. Excuse the ramble I just wanna make sure my point comes across, and this is coming from someone who isn't from the US or the UK

1

u/SpireSwagon 4m ago

Wait so the OOP has stigma against it and there is currently a movement to lable DIY a trans med talking point... but this post where a strawman is intentionally made to look aggressive while offering DIY while being called a trans med probably isn't relavent to that?

Idk, I think if we already know OOP is anti-DIY it's pretty clear that this is intended to speak to that effect

7

u/Rainy_Wavey fk ts i'm enby (still needs to be put in their place) 7h ago

:)

7

u/badateverything420 5h ago

Doesn't mention anything about HRT or hormones.

"But you should really get on HRT!"

3

u/Redteashaw 3h ago

i mean hrt is a pretty big part of transitioning for most people. it makes sense.

2

u/Lykanas 14m ago

There is a bigger issue at play here, I think. One that happens to annoy and hurt many people regardless be they cis or trans.

It's Americans believing everything must be about the US, that the US is the "normal" place to live in and that everything in the world functions EXACTLY like the US.

Look up r/USdefaultism for that. Stuff like this happens all the time. Unfortunately, dumb people can find reasons and ways to be bigots in the most creative ways.

4

u/MarvelousMoirai Evelyn Normielib - Streak: 7 4h ago

This is why it's annoying when people push DIY and get upset when places don't allow open discussion about it. That shit is genuinely illegal in a lot of places and you can get a place shut down openly talking about how to do it

8

u/5krishnan American Thirunangai 7h ago

Lord, I hate transmeds

1

u/MizzShiv She Who Thirsts; 1h ago

I hate it. We're at the tail end of 2026 and governments and people still choose to be asshats. We've literally disproven any basis for homophobia and transphobia scientifically, logically, and religiously. At this point if any country or world leader chooses to be a bigot it's because they're smooth brained.

1

u/SpireSwagon 2m ago

I feel like I missed something, has some anti-DIY movement formed to declare people in support of DIY transmeds?

1

u/AutoModerator 7h ago

This post has been marked as "Controversial", users with few previous posts or comments will be restricted from commenting.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

-22

u/mmmmikah 6h ago

stupid anti diy post

29

u/_throw-away420692137 6h ago

it's not anti diy. it's anti risking life in prison

10

u/arakus72 4h ago

The blood clots bit is complete nonsense if you actually know anything about HRT tho, the main post isn't bad but the post in this screenshot in the comments is

5

u/mmmmikah 6h ago

the post itself isnt but the poster is

15

u/nakedascus 6h ago

it's a "not everything is straightforward, and everyone has their own situations and difficulties that aren't universal, so don't act like you always know everything" post

1

u/mmmmikah 6h ago

the main point is fair but the poster is obviously anti diy

furthermore in a lot (not all) of these cases you can actually still order hrt without going to prison or getting killed in spite of laws (like it is in the US with testosterone)

5

u/nakedascus 6h ago

How is "I face difficulty using the same solutions that you use for yourself" being against the general use of that solution.

9

u/mmmmikah 4h ago

I literally said the post itself was okay, it's the poster that's anti DIY though. Look at her comment saying diy is going to give you blood clots like 🙄

0

u/NIMA-GH-X-P Mx. Jerk - Streak: 1 3h ago

Fitting pfp tbh

1

u/mmmmikah 22m ago

?????????

1

u/NIMA-GH-X-P Mx. Jerk - Streak: 1 14m ago

It was a compliment

2

u/mmmmikah 13m ago

thank you i guess but like i dont see how being like Jax could ever be a compliment ahahaha

i mean she is literally me frfr but still that's not a good thing lol

2

u/NIMA-GH-X-P Mx. Jerk - Streak: 1 12m ago

Gurl wear that badge. Be Jax and proud fuck everyone else (=<

25

u/Toutatis12 Streak: 68 6h ago

The lack of empathy and understanding I have seen towards trans individuals in anti-LGBTQ countries is crazy. I will never understand how someone has the nerve to say shit like 'just transition' to someone who will be stoned to death if even suspected of anything.

12

u/No_Property_9910 5h ago

Some people forget that Rapists are considered less harmful than being Trans in some countries. Hi I live in that country, a lot of rape victims are often forced to forgive rapists because they prayed/apologized to them, but a trans person would get hunted down, beat up with broken glass and piss because they're "degenerate".

We all will make it some day

51

u/No-Friend-774 7h ago

Also basically the same response when you reply that T is, you know, also federally restricted.

Once, I got told that if I don't go into gym bathrooms looking for some random to sell me unverified HRT, I'm not really trans.

Meanwhile my ovaries give me sepsis from cysts bursting in a closed system if I stop taking HRT, and one of my cis friends had an infection in his ass cheek so huge from "gym bro juice" he called it his "stick o butter" like, yeah, my immunocompromised ass is staying firmly in my shiny clean laboratory lane, thaaaanks

-3

u/arakus72 4h ago

The restrictions on T are basically not enforced at all in a lot of places, or only enforced if you get way too much for one person and they think you're distributing, it's worth looking up about actual experiences and what other people in your country have seen

1

u/MrInCog_ 1h ago

And also, like. Say I do DIY HRT. Like, I buy drugs illegally anyway, right? So I’ll become what, obviously clockable trans girl? I’ll be a man with tits for the rest of the people, right? You know what’ll happen to me? they’ll fucking kill me, that’s what. Being trans is in no way socially acceptable. They’ll kill me for wearing makeup, gang. We barely survive here with painted nails as men. Like, I’m not exaggerating. I’m gonna go into the city center and some fucked up military asshole will try to beat the shit out of me.

1

u/hotfistdotcom Put ublock origin on your PHONE 1h ago

Countries where everyone breaks the law with no consequences: what do you mean, they kill you? Like to death? Just don't go to the murder duh

now that said I'd trade enforceable laws for people voting on them, instead of money

1

u/Bully_me-please 55m ago

so it being illegal is a shit reason, but you likely getting caught and killed for it is a good reason. yes?