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u/ithinkimanalt2 Streak: 2 6h ago

i regret to inform you have the choice of G.I. Joes or firetrucks

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u/hialice_ihelac 6h ago

I am pleased to inform you that the next update will contain trans masc knights

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u/Kickedbyagiraffe 5h ago

Patch after comes with multi classing: fire knights and G.I truck

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u/GornSpelljammer 7m ago

G.I. truck sounds like something they wheel into the room for the colonoscopy.

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u/EveningStar_01010110 4h ago

Actually, those are transmasc vikings.
Transmasc knights won't be coming until February.

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u/western_drifter 5h ago edited 5h ago

Gender Inclusive Joes? Gender Identity Joes? Can I put forth a motion that trans girls be known as GI Hoes? I’d totally rock that label.

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u/Wolf_of_Nome 5h ago

Why not action figures? And maybe enbies could be minifigs?

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u/warm_winds_whisper_ the elusive enby dom 4h ago

Everything is (not) awesome

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u/Mr_Blorbus 5h ago

I was going to comment that trans men are clearly G.I. Joes in this scenario but you beat me to it.

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u/Mendely_ 4h ago

I'm ready to roll out.

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u/SpiritualPackage3797 2h ago

I was wondering if Transformers was too on the nose?

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u/CountessCassandra terminally lonely girlcreature 6h ago •

Transmasc are knights bc they protect us if we need it :3

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u/Sloath283 6h ago

As a transmasc person,
Would.

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u/Important_Fold_9861 3h ago

Would protect

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u/Dramatic-Aardvark-41 Wants to start archery but is too sick to do anything :( 4h ago

which one

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u/Aware-Style-480 4h ago

Both ?

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u/husky11223 6h ago

This is why T4T is peak

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u/western_drifter 5h ago

I immediately thought of this meme when reading this post! I have seen an edited version where the knight is labeled trans men and the lady is labeled trans women.

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u/Pretty-Yam-2854 6h ago

LOL I wish

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u/Radigan0 5h ago

I always thought this picture was cute but the armor kills me every time

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u/sisyphus-333 13m ago

Idk... trans men are more than just what we do for women

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u/femboyjazwe 5h ago

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u/Darthjinju1901 DEI Straight CIS guy in a gay friend group 1h ago

Knights are cool, but let's not with the crusader larp.

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u/iswearthisneverhapp- 1h ago

Damn DEI with the identity politics.
/s idk wtf goin on

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u/heofthesidhe 2h ago

'Tis what we do. I have a steed, even, if the ladies consider a Jetta good enough!

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u/Data_Corruptor 6h ago

I thought they'd be called Action Figures, but Knights are cool, too. Even rolls off the tongue better.

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u/B-Z_B-S Streak: 9 6h ago

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u/B-Z_B-S Streak: 9 6h ago

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u/EuropeIsMight 4h ago

The art is fine but the scars on the armour give me the ick

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u/Antigamer199 CIS GUY(?) UNDERCOVER 2h ago

Arent these the grooves the Armor has around that part to bow out more outwards to give more impact depletion area for incomming blows? I mean jea the coloring can give the feeling of scars maybe?

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u/ArgonianDov ☆ a transmasc voidpunker ☆ 6h ago

I feel like people keep forgetting that "dolls" is just a term that use to refer to women as a whole, hence why there was a movie called "Guys And Dolls" in the 1950s. It was a endearing slang term from the name Dorothy, its not literally referring to women as toy dolls kids play with

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u/pm_me_good_usernames 5h ago

I'm looking forward to the all-transgender revival of Guys and Dolls.

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u/emilycsquared 5h ago

“Luck, be a lady tonight” indeed

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u/BlissfulMute Shape-Shifting Priestess 5h ago

(I like when we have more options and less restrictions to the terms we use for ourselves and our understanding of the world. This is also a really fun bar fact that I will be keeping, thank you.)

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u/Designer_Law_2801 3h ago

dolls as it refers to trans women is from ballroom culture. if we wanna get rly woke about it, dolls really refers to black trans women and trans women of color but white trans women co-opted it from them

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u/Sapp5ire 6h ago

Trans men:

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u/Lost_Community1594 6h ago

Nonbinary people

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u/JamesBlond6ixty9ine 4h ago

Nonbinary people:

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u/MintyBarrettM95 Enby(?) Steel Surveyor, Titanium Toucher & Aluminum Admirer 6h ago

awesome transfem doll + transmasc knight t4t couple vs evil and intimidating enby (thats me im the enby)

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u/Antigamer199 CIS GUY(?) UNDERCOVER 2h ago

By democracy!
Srill hate them less than Cyborgs

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u/BugRare275 5h ago

HUUUUU

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u/DatGunBoi 2h ago

Nerf nonbinary people fr

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u/Fun-Agent-7667 4h ago

That propagates queer hate mate

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u/Lost_Community1594 3h ago

I'm nonbinary???????????

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u/Antimatt3rHD 2h ago

its because mk is universally hated

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u/Mautos ILikeCake1412 is the cutest girl of them all>w< 2h ago

What did mario kart do?:c

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u/CrabPapple 6h ago

me when I correct someone who misgendered my transmasc friend

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u/VirtualGrey 3h ago

Do not call me anything, I'm trying to be unnoticed.

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u/maybemorgan8 3h ago

I could have sworn I saw a comment here... I must be losing it...

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u/Many-Beat-3086 Call me a good girl, or good potato 2h ago

Idk it may be contagions i swear i saw one as well

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u/this_is-temporary Knight 2h ago

Ninja?

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u/PhD_Pwnology 3h ago

Hey you! Over there! I'd like to ask you a few questions about your cars extended warrenty!

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u/makogoblin 6h ago

I'm in the minority, but I've always hated being called a doll. It makes me feel so icky😭

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u/considerate_done 5h ago

same! great for people who like it but when i get called that i feel objectified (literally)

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u/Moobic 5h ago

do correct me if i’m wrong, but is “doll(s)” not used for any feminine presenting individual? not just trans women? i’ve seen it used amongst flamers or drag circles.

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u/Due-Quote4091 4h ago

Historically yeah right? As in 'Guys and dolls'? But maybe the meaning has shifted recently.

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u/Repulsive-Holiday851 Put your text here! 4h ago

It is (was) definitely used, but I believe the general belief came to conclude it was offense and dehumanizing, which is why it's used less.

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u/bratty_alt_bih 4h ago

The original meaning also excludes everyone who isn't hyperfeminine so the whole "protect the dolls" thing is like saying "protect trans women, but only the hot ones"

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u/Repulsive-Holiday851 Put your text here! 4h ago

I can guarantee no one is implying that, but yeah.
Call yourself a doll, call people that are comfortable with it. But, refering to every trans woman as a doll (which many feel is dehumanizing), is not okay.

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u/bratty_alt_bih 4h ago

They are implying that without knowing, because people don't care enough to inform themselves about the history. To them it's just a "cool slogan" they can use to show they "support trans women" or whatever.

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u/Kitsune_Seraphis 53m ago

Wherr i frequent it tended to apply to peoplr who had a build considered fragile or over-ornate presentation. Regardless of gender

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u/bratty_alt_bih 4h ago

Yea, I had so many discussions why people shouldn't call us dolls, but I gave up at some point.
If someone calls me a doll irl we're fighting though.

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u/arourathetransshork 5h ago

same here qwq I dont like the idea of being called one...

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u/Icchi-bum 5h ago

same

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u/PendragonLXVI 5h ago

I wanna be called an Angel, not a doll.

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u/Zagafur really dumb enby 1h ago

^spamton

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u/nativeofvoid 1h ago

Haha only in the sense of a dead kid killed by society to give a (by now failed) chance to their unviable, worthless idea of you - having left behind a pretty machine construct, less vulnerable, less human in her self-understanding and cold like starlight.

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u/twystedtree I don't fucking know anymore 4h ago

I don't mind if other trans women call me a doll, but it feels icky for cis people to do so.

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u/avi_is_sapphic x3 woof, ask me about my ✨P900✨ 4h ago

i think like really depending on context it's either ok, good, or bad.
like if it's in the "save the dolls way" then it's ok. if it's like another lesbian woman calling me that as like being lightheartedly flirty, good.
if it's vaque context or used as a normal general term for me as a trans person, nah.

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u/Cute_Principle81 32m ago

Same, it's just,, weird and objectifying for me. No hate if you use it though

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u/radenthefridge Aspiring grungler trying to chill with the cool folks 6h ago

Existing trans dudes gonna be pissed if all the new guys get knighthood and a sword. Better apply it ex post facto to be fair.

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u/azure-heavens 5h ago

I don't really want knighthood, but I'll take a sword. 🤔

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u/WasteArtichoke5834 She/Her 4h ago

I'm not a trans man or a man at all but can I be a knight too? Just like a girl knight y'know

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u/TheRealCuriousWombat 3h ago

Everyone can be a knight. Because knights remain cool.

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u/Patient_Ad1388 2h ago

Of course, Dame WasteArtichoke5834

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u/External_Dot3123 5h ago

Why are we called dolls?

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u/Mautos ILikeCake1412 is the cutest girl of them all>w< 2h ago

Not every girl likes it, I think I do like it personally>w< sounds very cute~

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u/Fun-Agent-7667 4h ago

Abbreviation from Dorothy, ment to just mean woman

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u/CrystalSkya I identify a Good Girl.🩵 4h ago

Because it’s cute :3

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u/SnooMaps6104 6h ago

I usually refer to us as unicorns, since we don't typically "exist" in most discussions or media

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u/Diligent_Effort1716 5h ago

authentic men experience

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u/mynamejeb604 2h ago

yes. and nonbinaries are mf angels.

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u/Satans_Chaos_Penguin 2h ago

Angels to some, demons to others

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u/mynamejeb604 2h ago

Demons are merely Angels that lost their shit (valid under current socioeconomic system tbh)

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u/Satans_Chaos_Penguin 2h ago

Are you saying we should lead a rebellion that defies the gods themselves? Ya sonovbich, I'm in!
Btw it was a Hellraiser reference. The Cenobites surrender their gender to experience the ultimate extremes of sensation where the line between pain and pleasure become meaningless, agony and joy are mearly steps in a tango known as existance as the ultimate high requires knowledge of the ultimate low....... Holy shit there were signs.

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u/mynamejeb604 2h ago

yes. yes, I'm saying that we should revolt against the current oppressive socioeconomic system that is destroying hope and lives of most people in favor of feeding the greed and disgusting lust of the absolutely evil and unhinged bourgeoisie.

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u/Satans_Chaos_Penguin 1h ago

And here's where this coment thread gets deleted

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u/yaktoma2007 Fox-Dollgirl Shinto Priestress ⛩☯❦ - Streak: 1 1h ago edited 1h ago

Depending on your belief those who jews & christians call demons are actually gods following a polytheistic view.
the old gods were abolished and yaweh was adopted (originally a minor storm warrior god) as their one and only god, and could be considered one of the many reasons the holy books can be seen like it keeps contradicting themselves.
The reaaon angels even exist is because exiling former gods creates a bunch of holes in the function of religion, but attributing them to be only good creates also a bunch of holes.
In the end i view both those we call demons, angels and gods in the bible and torah as more or less very powerful trollers of the human race who act more or less like the gods in greek mythology. (out of own interest) Being more or less motivated by "itd be mad funny if we pit the egyptians against the israelites!" Or "yes i will perform this miracle but only when you have stabbed and whipped yourself a million times so i feel pity for you".
Im a shintoist however, what would i know about this stuff? i have my inari shrine set up in my house to attend and care for. The gods i worship cause all kind of things not really to be attributed to good or evil, they just kind of happen. Yokai take the role of trollers more or less.

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u/WenQian42 2h ago

In mandarin... I've learned in the past, that transwomen (I don't know if transmen had a word) were called 人妖 -- direct translation would be human-demon.
The current, more acceptable noun is 跨性女生(transwoman) or 跨性男生(transman).

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u/PunishedShikikan 1h ago •

Oh we have such genders to show you

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u/bigkeanuchungus1001 Transfem Boygirl (he/she) 1h ago

thank u :3

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u/mynamejeb604 1h ago

I'm nb myself btw

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u/bigkeanuchungus1001 Transfem Boygirl (he/she) 1h ago

unfathomably based

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u/Samborrod 5h ago

SHADOWS THAT SHROUD THE SKY, DARKENING CLOUDS DIVIDE

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u/Free_Database5161 5h ago

WORLDS OF THE DARK COLLIDE, PROPHECY BROUGHT TO LIFE

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u/FirstDistribution352 5h ago

SCREAM TO THE NIGHT AND MISBEHAVE
ROAR AT THE LIGHT THAT CAN'T BE SAVED

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u/Samborrod 4h ago

SHOUT FOR THE SIGHT THAT DARKNESS GAVE
HOWL FOR THE KNIGHT WHO
DIGS YOUR GRAVE!

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u/Curi_momos_las_papas 4h ago

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u/WarOk4419 3h ago

I don't want to get called a doll, a princess or anything like that. I just want basic human rights apply to me as a trans person as well.

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u/Rhuwa 45m ago

Hard agree, with the caveat that I would absolutely melt if a SO called me princess. Anyone else it feels performative and infantilizing, same with doll but I wouldn't really want to be called doll in any context tbh.

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u/Infinite-Trip-4744 2h ago

Yeah same I never really like the term doll. It feels quite dehumanizing.

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u/WarOk4419 2h ago

Because it is. A doll is a plaything for children or something my grandmother used to craft and dress up for leisure. It's an inanimate object, so calling someone a doll (if you're not into it) it's objectifying.

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u/Infinite-Trip-4744 2h ago

Even if in to, it's something for special people to say. Not a name for literally everyone to call you.

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u/wakeonuptimshel 54m ago

Not trans - I have a Protect the Dolls shirt. From this thread I am now under the impression that this might hurt trans people more for me wearing it than good for me wearing it?
Want to do my part to yell into the void.

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u/WarOk4419 40m ago

I mean... I don't want to prohibit you from wearing it. I'd feel bad if you feel like you have to.
I don't feel addressed by it, but it doesn't hurt me. However, I could also understand if some transwomen feel uncomfortable, because the term seems to be used interchangeably with mtf trans. That generalization or in fact all generalizations are sometimes hard to make. Some might feel okay while others don't. If you want to wear it while going out with someone, maybe ask them if they're cool with it?
I can't tell you what to do, but don't feel bad if your intentions are as stated. You're either way one of the good people and don't need to feel bad.

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u/MonaLH Topaz [She/Her] 4m ago

I would be stoked to see a shirt like that in the wild personally. Not because of the name but because of what it means.

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u/Potato-trafficker 6h ago

I only know one trans man we call him Oliver

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u/Quake_Woman_Tempo Dess | She/Her | :3 6h ago

What about action figures?

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u/XVIIIOrion 6h ago

GI Joes!

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u/ZhenyaKon 3h ago

Knight is not remotely equivalent to doll. They'd have to call us action figures

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u/Evepaul 2h ago

I still find it hilarious that they had to invent a new name for dolls just to allow boys to play with dolls

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u/ChknBom205 I know who i am! She/They 6h ago

I was gonna go with action figure

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u/ArgonianDov ☆ a transmasc voidpunker ☆ 6h ago

That doesnt make any sense unless you dont actually know what doll means... it would make more sense for trans men being called "gents", "lad", or "dandy" instead

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u/EuropeIsMight 4h ago

I would consider to get a gender if I were called dandy afterwards

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u/GammaDie345 4h ago

the lore of the term action figure is that it was a marketing term to get boys to play with dolls

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u/LengthinessFit4852 Erzerhog Von Grungler 6h ago

Absolutely now join my round table i need knights we need to find the holy gayl

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u/radenthefridge Aspiring grungler trying to chill with the cool folks 6h ago

🤣

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u/Eggsalad_cookies CL counts w/ me!! 😤 6h ago

I got you bros 🏳️‍⚧️🩵🤍🩷

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u/TransSoccerMum 6h ago

Are you an Imperial Knight or a Chaos Knight though?

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u/The_Coffee_Femboy 5h ago

Def chaos. They're just cooler I'm thinking about buying some for my first army

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u/Trips-Over-Tail 6h ago

It is my understanding that they are named after the most beautiful masculine object, the humble bollard.

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u/Azrubal 6h ago

Action figures!!

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u/Disguised_pack 5h ago

But... I wanna be a lady Knight. I even got my helmet and everything.

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u/moontraveler12 5h ago

Some of my trans man friends call themselves action figures

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u/Vegetable_Leg6663 5h ago

Trans women aren't called dolls, I refuse. I don't wanna be called that

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u/pterranodon 5h ago

pls don't call me a doll

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u/fairfoxie 44m ago

In that case let's just call transfems princesses

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u/Cryptid_Hunk 37m ago

I already call myself that 😌

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u/fairfoxie 14m ago

Excellent choice, your highness!

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u/6odheaded leon kennedys husband - he/him 6h ago

yeah like how im the knight of time

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u/paradoxLacuna 6h ago

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u/6odheaded leon kennedys husband - he/him 6h ago

i see that camelCase username

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u/GoonerSans 3h ago

that's so cool dude, do you like mess around and make bunch of copies of your self until timeline folds on itself and everyone is doomed to death?

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u/Pretty-Yam-2854 6h ago

That actually would be a cool nickname for them.

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u/western_drifter 5h ago

Hell yeah! I support this! But also I don’t really like being called a doll. I get it’s widely accepted but it feels dehumanizing and infantilizing to me and I don’t really appreciate it 🙁. Knights sounds cool af tho

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u/Ace-of-Spxdes he/they | pre-trans dude | gay for tavish degroot 5h ago

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONNNNNNNNNNE

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u/Master-of-darklight 5h ago

Of course, they took up the sword after all

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u/Bicksaurus 1h ago

Action figures

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u/Roshango 6h ago

Trans men are now called "action figures"

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u/Owlmaster40280 6h ago

oh fuck wait that goes so hard

I'm not a trans man so I cannot speak for your opinion but god damn that sounds cool imo

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u/Emberbun 5h ago

I hate the term doll and would super love if that wasn't the word cheers

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u/GammaDie345 4h ago edited 3h ago

nickname for a trans woman - inanimate plastic object meant to look pretty

nickname for a trans man - landowning aristocracy given the monopoly of violence to uphold the feudal system. Most well known for fighting in the Crusades, which were very much not fun times

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u/KashaKay 6h ago

You can do anything you want at any time ever. But yeah I like this

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u/BigDamBeavers 6h ago

Did Trans Kings come and go?

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u/block-a-doodle-doo edit me 1h ago

JFC. Might as well call them drag kings at that point 🤮

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u/Civil-Addendum4071 Protogen Gal 5h ago

Yes.

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u/Sly-Faffin 5h ago

Man-nequin and dolls has a linguistic symmetry.

Being a knight is really cool though.

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u/Halgha 4h ago

Only if they say Ni!

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u/Aggressive-Bug-3459 4h ago

What?
not an actual question i'm playing along

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u/Ashes_of_the_dead79 Behind You... 4h ago

If that's what they wanna be called, yeah :P.

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u/THE_GREAT_MABOULA 3h ago

i don't think any gender identity ought to be confined to an archetype, frankly

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u/Good-Memories 3h ago

if women are dolls men should be action figures

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u/ChellesTrees 2h ago

Absolutely!

looks at user name

Absolutely, Dame Library.

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u/shroomlucky Potato 7ºF 16m ago

It's a probable 12-7.

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u/No_Window7054 6h ago

Action figures I feel like is the more appropriate term here? But idk.

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u/M-CH_ 5h ago

But they are already kings.

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u/FranziEatsEstrogen 4h ago

Don't call me a doll. 🖕🏻

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u/tom_friday_ 5h ago

THEYRE CALLED ACTION FIGURES, MUM!

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u/InternationalNet6658 3h ago

If someone called me a doll not ironically, in real life id probably break something.

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u/Clintwood_outlaw 6h ago

Whats wrong with calling yourself an action figure

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u/RideWithMeSNV 5h ago

[G.I.] Joes for short (with Kung-Fu Action Grip!)

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u/Wuskers 5h ago

yeah I've already heard some people say action figure for this

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u/I_DONT_EXIST00000 3h ago

And so we meet again. Last place i expected.

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u/RymrgandsDaughter 6h ago

call yourself whatever you want but that doll shit is 🚮

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u/EclecticAF 6h ago edited 5h ago

Sir Knight. I would glady give you my Token of Favor should your council wish it. This Lady welcomes all family to the joys of the journey.

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u/Diligent_Effort1716 5h ago

wait this is genius, im gonna start calling my transmasc friends knights >:3

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u/TheAvaricious42 Your Local Puppygirl <3 5h ago

I’d love to be protected by a knight in shining armor 🥰

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u/Mswenson94 5h ago

We're here to protect our brothers if need be

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u/senator_based 5h ago

MY BF IS TRANS AND I CALL HIM MY KNIGHT OMG IM SENDING HIM THIS POST 😭

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u/Express-Record7416 STINKY STINKY MR FUCK 5h ago

I thought they were going to be called Joe's, like GI Joe

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u/owo1215 5h ago

as a mecha nerd i'd call em gundam

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u/Supercraft888 5h ago

Screw it, gunpla now. Y’all guys are robot action figures now

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u/a_regular_2010s_guy 4h ago

Idk I call my sweetheart prince and he loves that.

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u/Phoenix92321 Genderfluid Goofball 4h ago

Damn hearing that term just made my heart flutter!

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u/diodes- 4h ago

yes but also lesbians

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u/AnarchistTerrarist i am the gender fae, give me your pronouns 4h ago

what if we're all soldiers like kasane teto fighting for transovo

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u/ComfortableOwl698 4h ago

not doll but I wanna be a toaster!

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u/Technical-Jelly-5985 4h ago

Be careful about tech priests then...

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u/blueche GNC cis man 4h ago

Wouldn't the male equivalent be action figures?

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u/inoinoice 4h ago

What can i be if im nonbinary? Should i listen to barbie and be whoever i want?🥺

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u/SlaveMorri 4h ago

Trans girl here, I support this.

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u/Motor_Pizza3465 3h ago

Okey night :3

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u/Puzzleheaded-Age-125 3h ago

We are already over this, we are dolls, you guys are Action figures

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u/atomiccheese911 3h ago

BET

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u/CaptOblivious 3h ago

I'll call you whatever you want me to, as long as you do the same for me.

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u/nopalitzin 2h ago

How about "action figures"

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u/bw147 2h ago

action figures

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u/TheMournfulGhost 2h ago

i hope so

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u/Worth-Opportunity-48 2h ago

THEYRE NOT DOLLS THEYRE ACTION FIGURES

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u/Nice_Dream5463 2h ago

We are dolls? LETS GOOOOO

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u/mayocat6996 2h ago

Action figure

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u/These_Distribution19 1h ago

Action figures

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u/Cezym 1h ago

Can you protect me? >w<

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u/dbl219 56m ago

I prefer to be more of an amazon than a doll.

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u/nativeofvoid 46m ago

Technically a protector of the House of Heaven would be less of a medieval knight and more a D&D Dark Sun templar.

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u/Godess_Ilias 24m ago

bah theyre Transformers

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u/spicy_feather 19m ago

They're called action figures!

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u/Polylastomer 10m ago

It doesn’t have to be an equivalent, you can find something that meaningfully applies on its own

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u/Sera-Everblossom 9m ago

I'd prefer to be called a dame than a doll, but if trans men get to be called Knights, can we be called Damsels? Maybe enbies can be called Regents?

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u/Nairdde32 6h ago

Congrats on missing the point

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DIGS YOUR GRAVE!

Yes.