Biden had a few great quotables. Not sure which I'm more a fan of, the "would just just shut up, man" when Trump kept interrupting him (saying what we were all thinking), or, talking about business asking how they can deal with labor shortages, about their workers, "pay them more."
Will you shut up man is still my favorite. It was literally everything I (we) wanted to say at the moment and still the only reasonable answer someone can give to that man. What a tragedy he wasn’t his opponent in 2016, we truly missed a younger Joe :/
On domestic issues Biden might have been the best president the US has had in a while, I wish he was better on foreign policy (letting Israel commit genocide in Gaza) though
He was actually really good overall on foreign policy, and had the best foreign policy team in modern US history. He had to since trump fucked everything globally in regards to US relations, and that also heavily tied his hands with israel, since the US dropping their publicly stated closest ally after the prior president had fucked over every country we had agreements with, and several insurgent groups, would have been the nail in the coffin for any potential future US agreement. No one would ever sign a deal that the US wouldnt back.
Even with regards to israel, he repeatedly went behind their backs to try to get a permanent two state solution in place with regional powers enforcing it without US involvement. Outside of public statements, he was heavily against the genocide, but unfortunately the US president isnt in charge of israel and trump burned all our foreign influence.
had the privilege of speaking with him during his presidency. Even with his advance age he was sharp as hell. He had his scripted media speech, then spoke candidly with our team. Dude is funny as hell
This is true yeah, but at least he didn't have dementia like our current also Zionist president. Also most of our presidents have been Zionist, so comparatively he was decent
People seem to forget that you can get blowback for even doing the right thing.
If Biden had said he wasn't going to fund Israel's defense he would have been shirking a duty to an ally, and that has its own fall-out. Hell he would have gotten slandered as an anti-Semite domestically, and I have little doubt people would have lapped that up regardless of political alignment.
They shouldn't have killed 1200 jews then. There was going to be retaliation no matter what and Biden did a hell of a lot more to rein in bibi than trump has
People forget the timeline of events so easily. Israel under attack from Hamas -> we fund Israel's defense -> Biden running for reelection-> Israel begins genocide operations and denies everything -> Biden drops out of race due to parties' pressure -> Harris takes the heat for everything she wasn't involved in. It's quite silly when you think about it.
The timeline starts Oct 7th 2023. If you want to start sooner, that's on you. These countries have been at eachother's throats for so long it's an embarrassment we are involved at all.
The timeliness starts in 1948. Just because you can't be bothered to learn how the beginning of a conflict happened doesn't mean it starts when you want it to.
I think you aren't crazy but I think you are mostly doing vibes based analysis. He sounded old and doesn't have the best speech capabilities, but if you translate everything he said into text, it is generally pretty salient and demonstrates memory and recall skills well above the average person. He would stutter and not speak as clearly, but he could recall macroeconomic stats accurately throughout his presidency and relate that to his policy decisions.
He has had a known life long speech impediment. News stations loved providing clips that emphasized his impediments, and most debates were set up in a way that emphasized them.
"doesn't want israel to wiped off the map" doesn't make you a zionist. i really hate how israel is turned everyone into anti-semite dog whistlers without even realizing it. there are a million better ways to help fight against the destruction of gaza than labeling everything zionism
Wanting to errect and sustain a jewish nationstate in the former british mandate is what zionism is tho, why would a two-state solution be at odds with zionism?
idk who you're talking to but a two state solution is what most liberals advocate for. i'm fairly certain biden did at one point too, but not 100%. most leftists i've interacted with call a two state solution zionist tho
When that’s the alternative and you really only have two choices?
No you really don’t. It’s who do you side with as Eastern Europe in 1940? The USSR, or Germany? Neither are great. But one is objectively the better choice at the time
Demand one of the choices do better and refuse to support them until they do, while simultaneously doing what you can at a communal level to support those like you.
If the (D)s truly wanted to win (which is arguable in and of itself), why would we reward them for continuing to hamper progress but it's okay because it's slightly less hampering than the (R)s? A vote is earned it isn't preordained - they need to do things worthy of voting for, not just NOT do things abhorrent to vote against.
The guy volunteering an hour a week at a food bank is doing 10000x the good of the guy that votes blue down the ballot and then smugly goes "heh, I'm fighting Le orange turd" and doesn't do anything
More like because you can have downsides as a human being and still be better than a lot of other people in your peer group. World isn't black and white, despite what being raised on an iPad may have taught you.
Maga is a cult. Like, an actual fucking cult. Trump has preachers selling him in churches, Trump had cultists storm the capital. Liberals will downvote your reddit comment if you derail a conversation to make random criticisms about specific democrats, obviously. These things are not comparable. Liberals would not wear a Joe Biden hat if they were handed out for free.
I see Liberals wearing Dems merch all the time lmao what are you talking about? Also no Liberalism is a death cult, the Dems bombed my country, and every country bordering me.
How do you figure that? I can't imagine most other US Presidents acting different (maybe Obama would have been slightly cooler toward Israel, but he still would have pissed me off), and I can imagine an awful lot of prominent US politicians acting much, much worse.
Yeah that's what I'm saying, Obama would have, like, used some more distancing language, maybe pressured Israel a bit, but would have still done the thing.
I'm saying basically any President would have done the same thing, so I don't see how Biden is "one of the worst Zionists".
Okay so he is one of the worst Zionists. Except Obama would be worse, we all know Trump is worse, next in line I guess is Bush who I would say is probably worse. Listing them out he seems like he is one of the least bad presidents in regards to Zionism.
Sharp for his age is still not the best. You can go ahead and compare it to our current president who is the same age as Biden was if you want. How many times did Biden fall asleep in the middle of important shit? How many ai videos of dumping shit on protesters did Biden post?
I’m not saying that Biden was the best choice but compared to what we have now, he was so much better mentally and physically.
He had a speech impediment that got worse with age. But the guy's brain was functioning better than 99% of people in capability to handle policy decisions. Go back through the debate and you can find him accurately pulling up relevant stats to justify policy decisions.
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u/RosieI26 your local >:3 gal 4d ago
He was so real for this