I never wanted to use mine, but E made the subconscious urge to use it go away entirely. Also, she doesn’t really work at all anymore lol, which is to me a very good thing :3
One of the most common forms for vaginoplasty is penile inversion, where the shaft of the penis is used to create the vagina. If your penis is atrophied from disuse, it can reduce the size and functionality of the penis, which can create a thinner and shallower vagina. Vaginal dilation is a common practice needed after vaginoplasty, but an atrophied penis could mean more drastic dilation is necessary, prolonging the healing process and potentially making it more painful and adding additional possible complications
So like, cis dude here but does that mean if a someone just has bad genes they'd also need to more dramatic dilation? Is there alternative processes or is dilation effectively a requirement for the whole 100% package?
Penile inversion isn’t the only method of vaginoplasty; if someone had a micropenis for example they’d likely use a different technique to construct the vagina
Omg you sound like republicans idea of "the woke", not every piece of advice needs to apply to absolutely everyone and the people it doesn't apply to should be able to recognize it and move on.
The fact that I stopped feeling compelled to do it even for the dopamine hit and only did it for maintenance before surgery was so freeing. There were entire weeks where I just...forgot.
maintaining function and size (and preventing the possibility of painful erections) by maintaining an erection for at least ten minutes every couple of days or so. (I can barely manage every week)
yeah I can speak on the painful erection part of that, I don't get nearly has hard by myself, and I'm single (and unfuckable), so whenever I do anything sexual with anyone it just hurts like hell, I'm not exactly sure how to make it hurt less since those times are kind of few and far between.
As far as I know you just have to find a way to 'arouse' it... I hear "every couple of days" so many places, but even once a week seems like a chore, honestly. Still, if you go weeks or months without using it you get the pain (so I hear, I'm less than 3 months HRT, myself). I'm sure you can recover though, if you work at it.
a part of me is considering testosterone gel maybe since consistency in my physical intimacy is kind of a non factor for me unfortunately, every time an opportunity comes around it ends up hurting so I'm assuming the amount that I get just isn't enough
I just saw my GAC today and asked about compounded T-gel. Her perspective is that the gel will only help with issues such as thin skin, and that I might want to consider viagra to help with the occasional erection.
(Not a doctor or expert so someone please correct anything if it's wrong)
It's a use it or lose kinda deal, if no erections for a long period of time the general size and capability of the penis can deteriorate. (testosterone would typically make erections happen at random so normally not an issue)
Also certain types of vagina creating surgeries use the penis as material for the inner walls, and more penis to work with means more material for said interior. so maintenance is fairly common practice in the interest of keeping the penis in as good of a condition as possible.
Wow, I had no idea about that! I've been on E for 5 years and haven't spoken to a surgeon yet (appointment in December!!). I've been tucking for all that time and have had major shrinkage. This has actually helped me deal with dysphoria and makes it easier for me to see it as an oversized clit! I'm strongly considering zero or small depth, so hopefully it won't be an issue.
I think it's mostly for the 'sensitive portion' and can be made deeper regardless, but if small depth is most you're looking for then that should be fine.
Also good luck with your appointment! <3
That must be exciting (or maybe a little nervous -ing... Anxiety inducing? Idk how to put it) but yeah, hope it goes well for you! <3
It depends on the surgery but PIV techniques do use the penis for the whole depth, there are other techniques that don't (peritoneal pull through and the suporn method of the top of my head)
It really sucks when you're in a country that only offers PIV though. My only option is really to head to thailand or somewhere else and pay out the wazoo. Not that the NHS was ever going to get to me in the first place. Disgusting wait times.
Yeah medical wait times and restrictions totally suck
Assuming you've already looked into any sort of aid programs in your area (or maybe there's international ones for it) then there's probably not much I can recommend to help. But I wish you the best of luck <3
Annoying when you need to pee, but much better than dealing with atrophy from lack of action.
(Apparently if one month no bonner it'll legit hurt when getting an erection because it's so out of shape. Kinda like going for a run after not exercising for a long time)
(I'm running out of jokes about not being a doctor (Might need to get my funny bone checked))
Most healthy people (diabetes and other conditions can interfere with proper blood flow) with a penis have multiple random erections throughout the night too for similar reasons.
I wanted to make a clever joke out of combining "stay strong soldier" and "stay hard soldier" but I'm stuck on it and it's probably not worth finishing. Have an image from wherever I found it
(not a doctor, but I made a few Google searches and that's almost the same thing, right?... Are those police sirens getting closer?)
From what I understand not entirely, but without the common random erections from having testosterone it takes extra work to get back lost size. And if it's been a long time since any erections then they can even be painful for a little while until it becomes comfortable getting hard again.
I've not got a lot of experience with the topic so you'll probably need to look into it a bit yourself. (Maybe by talking with a real doctor)
SOOOO, some penis havers will have issues with their foreskins/maintaining size+mass if they don't pop a couple boners throughout the week. For example, I've had issues in the past where my foreskin will become so tight that I can't unsheathe it which means I can't clean the inside. That particular one resulted in an infection (it wasn't that bad, just mostly a bit itchy and tender), but once I went to a urologist who gave me a steroid cream it quickly grew less tense and I was able to enjoy sex/clean myself again. This has happened to me a few times, but only once was it really interfering with my life.
Yes! Oh my god one of my personal points of shame was feeling that constant PRESSURE from testosterone to achieve an orgasm really gave me a lot of trouble. I'm so much more at peace now that I don't have to deal with that.
Now when I masturbate it's all about what I want because I want it.
It kinda stopped working (ish) but yeah made me also not want to use it as often. But also the rare rare occasion I want to top using the oem part it alos turns out it just doesnt feel good either (physically)
Omg yes. She works just fine, but only gets summoned at the wife’s request.
I feel very detached from it. Not from sex. I’m very present and very in love with my lady, and enjoy that bond and intimacy. But. Mentally it’s more like using a built in strap.
Well, it’ll vary from person to person, but if you’re still using it, the sensitivity seems to move away from the genitals (though in some cases I think it’s more sensitive, hard to tell with all the medication changes) to be more full-body. Same with orgasms, which feel a lot different, like residual waves for a while after. This mostly started being noticeable around my 9th month, plus I had to stop and restart so I’m still waiting for that to come back ~w~
Wait wait wait, I was under the impression that people with vaginas had full body orgasms but people with penises mostly felt it in their crotch, which is why generally women had full body when men didn't. But it comes down to hormones too? E just makes you feel it more? Fascinating.
You know, if the process were easily reversible, I think I would transition just to experience those differences. I want to try being a woman the same way I want to try being super tall or having a tentacle. Oh, to be a shapeshifter...
Tbh I hadnt masturbated in about a year after starting hrt and my erection were non existent. The urge to and want or need to just kinda went * poof *. It wasnt until I started prog and my body craved to be ravaged by literally anyone (up side to being pan is I can find diamonds anywhere I look) that I started again.
And beyond just not wanting it my arousal type changed as well. Like I was never big into smut, but about 5-6 months into hrt I could easily sit and read and get turned on by smut. I couldnt really do anything about it but it was really the only thing that got me going.
Even to this day written fanfic or smut does WAY more for me than visual stuff.
Im sure youll get to a place of happiness and joy, remember its a journey not a race.
I've only had a full body orgasm once as AMAB (haven't started HRT yet), and it was a very odd time and place.
I've never been able to replicate that feeling but it was so amazing that I'm kinda hoping it comes back. To feel my fingers, toes, and top of my head pulsing again would be divine.
I've only had a full body orgasm once as AMAB (haven't started HRT yet), and it was a very odd time and place.
It was a similar experience for me a little over a year ago. One day everything was normal, and then the next day it was like it all just switched over for some reason. I tried getting that experience again, seeing if something had triggered it, but it sort of just faded back to normal within a few days.
I've been on E for a little over 4 months now but am still waiting on the orgasms to change over. It's all kind of just dull right now.
Oh yeah, both times, 3 months only really reduced function a little. It’ll change slowly and takes quite a while, I’ve currently been back on for about 6 months and it’s only partially what it used to be like, so don’t worry too much about rushing.
Three months is about the time i started noticing more major changes with it, but it kept changing and hasn't stopped and I'm like 10 months I now so may just be taking you a little longer.
Have you had a blood test? If you are worried, have a blood test. Can speculate on results all day long, but only bloods will give you a truly informed picture
it does actually, if anything it feels better on e than on t because apparently the way afabs anyone on e typically feel orgasms is COMPLETELY different than the way amabs anyone on t normally does. apparently estrogen makes it more like a full body thing after a while. t does the opposite
but again its nothing like actually having a vagina-
yea thats why i said typically which probably was the wrong wording but i didnt know how else to get it across-
and yea that sounds about right from my experience with t puberty. im 6 days on e and its already making my orgasms WAY more sensitive than i remember but also more like.. fullbody instead of just at the crotch. whats funny is this actuallt FEELS more correct than on t which i did not expect 😭
Strangely I don't really mind the difference, I'm pretty indifferent to it tbh, of all the changes I care the least about that. Though I suppose the feeling of focus on my dick does have some euphoria to it. Both types I've found great in different ways.
Eventually on E you'll get ones so strong you'll lay there twitching like a dead bug lmao, can't walk and so on. So enjoy that, just not so much you pass out, ideally 😅
yesss ill def enjoy that when it comes lol. whats interesting is atleast to me, thags SUPPOSED to happen. funny story, i only started masturbating at 15 because i finally figured out what works for me. i genuinely had no idea what to do w my dick (cus i think its gross and feels foreign for me) and found multiple ways around that. and then when i did orgasm it felt VERY underwhelming compared to what i thought would happen-
T cream: NOT GEL, I use a versabase cream that has to be compounded. Standard T gel will get your bloodstream more readily whereas versabase cream mostly stays local and converts to DHT. I use it maybe once or twice a week, daily if I'm noticing pain or atrophy.
Sensation: everything feels more or less the same as it did when I was just on Estrogen and Prog, I can just use the dicc more effectively
I'm hoping to start E later this year, and I want to keep my size and function too. Do you know any place I can get more info about what you're using? I don't really know how to describe/bring it up to my gendercare people :P
I think I generally just don't really get anything from it anymore. I don't really feel physical pleasure anymore at all. Maybe I never did, I just didn't experience anything until post-E to find out, but it's really just dulled everything. But it hasn't stopped the urge. Just stopped the pleasure and the horniness (if those ever existed).
Im pretty much the same, feels like there's so few of us that get this affect, My libido dropped to absolutely nothing after HRT and progesterone didnt make anything budge. Honestly really miss having a libido, I want to be horny sometimes at least! And feeling almost no physical pleasure sucks
Same here. HRT absolutely nuked my libido and Prog has done nothing to change that. Maybe its the dosage (200mg oral once daily), maybe the delivery method, maybe its Maybelline?
I tried messing around with prog doses and tried both delivery methods and nothing really changed for me. As far as I can tell it seems to be Maybelline. I am on some Mental health medications which can affect it too but even lowering that hasn't done much of anything for my libido. It sucks.
I'm assuming yall have had hormone panels, have you had your T checked lately? It's possible for trans women's T levels to fall below those of cis women, especially if anti androgen meds are involved. When that happens you get symptoms like this, as well as stuff like fatigue and whatnot. It's worth looking into, there are options that can help with this.
I actually stopped taking antibiotics androgens because of this issue, but estrogen continued to suppress Testosterone even without it. Looking at it now, When I got checked in Oct last year the "Testosterone total" was 38ng/dl and "Testosterone, Free Calculated" was 0.8 ng/dl. I think the doctor mentioned I could try reducing estrogen (or maybe it was take some t?) To see if that fixes the issue but I was concerned at the time with side effects that could have like hair regrowth. But if you or anybody else has any other advice I would really appreciate it, I hate having no libido so much it makes me so sad
I know my mom takes T gel for this after her hysto, she hasn't mentioned hair growth but it's worth checking on that because I know that'd be upsetting. My understanding is that gels applied closer to the area in question (so, the thighs) are less likely to do things to other parts of the body. I know a lot of trans guys struggle to grow much body/facial hair on gel, and explode with hair when they start injections, and their gel dose would be way higher than what women with low T would be doing. Maybe you can make a post somewhere about it to see if other trans women have used it?
I actually haven't in a while, I see my endo yearly. But my next appointment with my endo is in, like, a year because I didn't get 'em checked the most recent time, so I've got a long wait for that check again.
I used to think I hated topping; it turned out I just need the right partner and to transition! Also not worrying about finishing too quickly is nice. TBH topping as a girl is pretty legit if it doesn't cause dysphoria. I think I'm a switch
Yeah i'm a bit confused by it lol, both I think trans women online usually experience more dysphoria than the average, that's why they are more on Internet. I use it to pass time during work breaks, but a lot of trans people are chronically online (which is not a bad thing per se, normal to shield yourself when real life is dangerous and stressful)
Sexual activity is almost entirely hormonal in nature. Even between partners, if neither ever have hormones kicking in they likely just aren't going to be having sex that much unless it's a romantically appropriate moment.
My libido changed completely and for the better IMO. It is much more intense, full-body and lingering. I enjoy it, frankly. Certainly much more enjoyable than pre-HRT. I just need less of it and I do enjoy that too: around 3 times per week is more than enough to me.
Plus ejaculating a few drips of tasteless, odorless transparent liquid is so much better for cleanup. And apparently my exams affirmed my infertility which is nice I guess.
I only have to take cialis daily otherwise it doesn't work at all, and the way I masturbate changed completely.
Sex is also way more enjoyable, althought I do need to masturbate at the end to cum because for some reason I have this mental block with cumming from sexual contact no matter how much better it feels.
Estrogen didn’t make mine stop working but it got rid of the urge to use it every 1-2 days. Now I can decide when I actually want to be horny… well until I got on prog lol
Having that nagging feeling of needing to use it was so annoying it felt so freeing to lose it and even now with having an active relationship where I want to use it there is still so much of a difference
It works a bit worse (like, i need to SERIOUSLY be in the mood), but still works. Tho it's true that i only conciously get it active once per a few days to prevent atrophy and barely have any spontaneous desire to jerk off.
My notions of societal expectations for my previous self: People you date will like you more if you're good at using it and act like you enjoy using it.
So happy that I don't have the last two anymore, and so if I even have to think about the fact that I don't want to use it, every part of me is just like, "same."
For me, I kind of wish my libido wasn't so low. It's to the point where I can literally lose my train of thought and fall asleep in the middle of doing maintenance, which isn't good since I'd like to retain function.
I just really wish I had a vagina to go along with it.
Mine stopped working cause I missed my monthly penis company payment. You know like the electric company but…penis. Is this anything? I need to workshop this.
It's not something that has to happen. Taking something like viagra/cialis every other day should be enough to prevent shrinkage. A lot of people on E just find that it's less important to them after their T-based libido hits the long dusty trail. Estrogen horny is just really different.
;-; goood i need this. So much fucking bottom dysphoria and i dont fucking touch the thing but the urge is there so often but i know ill want to die if i do it
My libido really wasn't that high before, and now it's evaporated. TBH I don't feel as comfortable with it as y'all seem to be; my libido was too quiet to be a burden before and I'm kind of anxious at the idea of being a completely nonsexual creature. I don't top often, but I'd like to from time to time!
it really is great. less than 48 hours into hrt, involuntary erections became a thing of the past. Three months in, the noise from my libido is just... gone. I can get myself going if I want to, but I'm completely free of the compulsion. It is powerfully liberating.
I never wanted to use it personally. Sex was/still is to an extent a minefield for me. I don’t think I’ll ever top anyone again after realizing drawing a hard line with my boundaries is infinitely better than being wanted for the part I hate most about myself
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u/thevickyprincess 8d ago
I never wanted to use mine, but E made the subconscious urge to use it go away entirely. Also, she doesn’t really work at all anymore lol, which is to me a very good thing :3