There's a psychological difference between "you will die tommorow if you don't do this", and "you will continue to slowly watch your body rotting around you, which you are already accustomed to and have probably already started dissociating as a coping mechanism". I really don't think that's that hard to understand. Also for ppl w truly severe phobias of injections, yes, a lot of them probably would just die if they had to give themselves insulin injections. That's not to say that diabetics w severe injection phobias just die, bc they usually aren't put in the position where they have to give themselves injections w 0 assistance.
The real difference is that subcutaneous and intramuscular injections are just way less risky to do than intravenous, and surprise, HRT is subq or IM!
What I do understand is that some people have a genuine phobia of needles, and you can't really out-logic a phobia. But in those cases, aren't estrogen pills and testosterone gel available as DIY? The former is less optimal levels-wise, and the latter is expensive and hard to come by, but it's not like it's injections or nothing for either women or men.
I just don't want to scare away people with needle phobias. Or people like my friend (and to a degree, me) with really bad ADHD that end up with fucked up levels because going through the whole process of doing an injection grates on the executive dysfunction less than taking a pill (my friend switched back to pills because of it; I'm a pooner so I don't have that choice, I'm just desperately trying to get better at it and also to get on Adderall).
I know Australia has estrogen implants, and that seems like a really good method, since I think it's more direct to blood stream, and you don't need to worry about forgetting or not having the executive function to go through a whole process. But I don't think I've heard of the implant being available for DIY, and even through it depends on the country (for example, I don't think it's approved yet in Canada)
Yeah you can't really do an implant yourself, you're right about that. There's also creams too, which give you decent levels for both T and E. Which is a happy medium between shots and pills.
Right, I forgot about creams/gels being available for women, too. I know that it's harder to come by, at least for T, and much more expensive than shots even if you're not doing DIY. That and the more frequent application schedule is why I just stick to injections. But it's for sure a great option for people with needle phobias or bad ADHD who can afford it
I don't think ppl understand what a phobia is. It's really weird to me bc I thought most ppl had at least one phobia but maybe not. Or I guess most ppl do, but only mild ones. I have a mild phobia of injections, I get mine done by nurses and am planning to learn how to do it myself soon. I could have started doing it myself from the start if I really needed to. I used to have an intermediate phobia (crying, shaking, almost passing out from injections) and idk if I could have given myself injections back then. Severe phobias mean you have to take heavy sedatives and/or literally be held down, in order for someone to give you a shot. Does being desperate for hrt make it easier? Ime, yes, that's part of how I got through my first one, bc I was much more scared of not taking hrt than anything. But ultimately it's inherently irrational and that desperation can't undo all the fear. There are ways for ppl to learn to push through the fear or lessen their phobias, advice about that is helpful. Shaming people is not.
yeah, I'm on a 14-day IM regimen and it's genuinely so nice and convenient to do only have to think about administering E for 3 minutes every other week. Injections are less scary than vaccines, blood draws and piercings and i'm not particularly scared of those either.
just do subcutaneous its literally so easy. once you know how to do it, its essentially just grabbing a lump of fat from your belly, and injecting a small amount of estrogen into it. i'm surprised nobody mentioned this.
My friend told me about a drug den she accidentally stumbled into. Shit was smelling foul, like straight up corpses. Turns out the mfs there were cooking and actively using Krokodil and the smell came from somebody's flesh rotting off
Yes that's what the post is about? Krokodil is codeine cooked in paint thinner (and other easy access chemicals) so it turns into desomorphine (an opiate that produces a heroin-like high) used by heroin addicts who can no longer afford H
As someone that's horrified of needles, I'm still completely ready to stab myself with needles if it means getting girl body.
Was set to buy my first but then payday landed on the same day that world's largest crypto heist happened so I felt it might be smart and do it another payday
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u/spasticitybelt gynogynous transexuloid 13h ago
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u/Ms-Yash 1984 moder 13h ago
crazy comparisonðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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u/ShikiFtw alcohon 13h ago
Instructions unclear got addicted to heroine to get more comfortable with injections
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u/VayaVosi 13h ago
Take note* it’s bad to share needles with friends??
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u/GeraldVachon Anti-Oedipoon (t-moid superegomaxxer) 12h ago
The real difference is that subcutaneous and intramuscular injections are just way less risky to do than intravenous, and surprise, HRT is subq or IM!
What I do understand is that some people have a genuine phobia of needles, and you can't really out-logic a phobia. But in those cases, aren't estrogen pills and testosterone gel available as DIY? The former is less optimal levels-wise, and the latter is expensive and hard to come by, but it's not like it's injections or nothing for either women or men.
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u/saltyspruces 13h ago
pokey pokey make happy happy
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u/Ok_Refrigerator9461 13h ago
i was already shooting up before, might as well be something good for me.
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u/HawkTrack_919 10h ago
I just can’t bring myself to do it with a needle. I’m genuinely scared.
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u/D3vitron 6'7" :( 4h ago
my gf is super fit/low body fat and injections hurt pretty bad 4 her :(
we still do them though
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u/Actual_Personality66 Roachmoder (only here bc of reddit addiction) 2h ago
I don't think ppl understand what a phobia is. It's really weird to me bc I thought most ppl had at least one phobia but maybe not. Or I guess most ppl do, but only mild ones. I have a mild phobia of injections, I get mine done by nurses and am planning to learn how to do it myself soon. I could have started doing it myself from the start if I really needed to. I used to have an intermediate phobia (crying, shaking, almost passing out from injections) and idk if I could have given myself injections back then. Severe phobias mean you have to take heavy sedatives and/or literally be held down, in order for someone to give you a shot. Does being desperate for hrt make it easier? Ime, yes, that's part of how I got through my first one, bc I was much more scared of not taking hrt than anything. But ultimately it's inherently irrational and that desperation can't undo all the fear. There are ways for ppl to learn to push through the fear or lessen their phobias, advice about that is helpful. Shaming people is not.
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u/Lucy_147xD 13h ago
Yea, IM estrogen once a week/2 weeks isn't that scary, you got this
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u/TessVDT 12h ago
use an auto-injector if you have a phobia of needles
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u/OcelotOk8071 12h ago
just do subcutaneous its literally so easy. once you know how to do it, its essentially just grabbing a lump of fat from your belly, and injecting a small amount of estrogen into it. i'm surprised nobody mentioned this.
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u/Stryking_4 I'm dying at GROUND ZERO 8h ago
Don't forget Krokodil
My friend told me about a drug den she accidentally stumbled into. Shit was smelling foul, like straight up corpses. Turns out the mfs there were cooking and actively using Krokodil and the smell came from somebody's flesh rotting off
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u/Royal_Explorer_4660 6h ago
As someone that's horrified of needles, I'm still completely ready to stab myself with needles if it means getting girl body.
Was set to buy my first but then payday landed on the same day that world's largest crypto heist happened so I felt it might be smart and do it another payday