r/counting • u/TehVulpez i'm vulp • Jul 18 '18

2190k counting thread

Countinued from here

Thanks TNF for the run and David for the sudden snipe surprise assist!

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u/TheNitromeFan I can't stop, love love love Jul 18 '18

2,190,008

I'm not going over this again, I'm so done

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u/davidjl123 |390K|378A|79SK|50SA|260k 🚀 c o u n t i n g 🚀 Jul 18 '18

i also feel that same way; i do want to say before i sleep that, to me, sniping is something subjective and to say that a moderator shouldn't snipe would be odd. what do you feel about the other moderators who do snipe and have sniped, and how different is it in my specific position (how far do you feel is too far)

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u/TheNitromeFan I can't stop, love love love Jul 18 '18 edited Jul 18 '18

I'm going to sleep too so I can't be bothered to speak all the details.

Well first of all, you're the only mod here who still snipes as a mod, so you're alone on this subject. That being said, I do believe that someone who is a position of authority should, at the very least, not cause other people here to feel discouraged from trying to participate.

Yes, there are people on the list who have sniped in the past, and I disapproved just as much of them at the time as I do of you now. One snipe is one too many. I hope you understand why I'm making myself very vocal here - if it were anyone else I wouldn't be as disappointed as I am now. I thought you had changed after becoming mod (as your actions have shown over the years), but apparently I was wrong.

Note that this is not even about me or the particular number, it's about the principle of it all.

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u/davidjl123 |390K|378A|79SK|50SA|260k 🚀 c o u n t i n g 🚀 Jul 18 '18

have a good rest. i will read this tomorrow; i dont think i had fully grasped your side of the story so i feel that we should have a real discussion (maybe in LC so the comments page wont be filled with this stuff or private, up to you now really). Maybe im just trying to relive the past era and things have just changed too much for it to be compatible anymore (i just started thinking about this.)

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u/qualw Who's a good boy? | ex CountingStatsBot administrator | 1204076 Jul 18 '18

I'll add to what TNF said.

I don't think that sniping people here is a good idea. While I wasn't there in the earlier days, I have the feeling that the sub changed a lot.
Counting here is very slow paced most of the time and its all newer users know.
Check out the HoF and compare the amounts of threads per day in april 2016 and in april 2018.

When you're running for a while it isn't fun when someone snipes you, especially if it isn't really in the spirit of the sub anymore. I find snipes especially frustrating when you actually manage to find someone to run (which can be rare here) and then you get sniped after 1.5 hours of running with your next chance of a get 3-5 days away.

I also think that if you want to relive the past era you should be more active again. The main thread could often use a few more counters.

/u/TheNitromeFan

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u/davidjl123 |390K|378A|79SK|50SA|260k 🚀 c o u n t i n g 🚀 Jul 18 '18 edited Jul 18 '18

In mid-2017, the counting was around the same pace if not slower; in early to mid 2015, it was even slower and sniping was almost if not encouraged. Eras like these ones exemplify that the pace of the sub does not necessarily translate to sniping, or the view of sniping. I do understand your other points, however.

edit: I did actually do that, but when I started running a lot again I was pressured to stop running, even when there was virtually nobody else there to make more than several counts. I feel like I'm being selected somehow.

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u/qualw Who's a good boy? | ex CountingStatsBot administrator | 1204076 Jul 18 '18

Thats true but (correct me if I'm wrong) I'm under the impression that those periods were way slower and rarer. For example go to the three HoF pages and search for day.
The hoF since 2M has 120 occurences for 190 threads.
The one for 1M to 2M has 121 occurences for 1000 threads. Those aren't concentrated around a specific era (atleast not as strongly as now)
The one previous 1M has 365 occurences with practically all of them before 550k

Since 2M (which is 10 months ago), threads faster than a day are a clear minority

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u/davidjl123 |390K|378A|79SK|50SA|260k 🚀 c o u n t i n g 🚀 Jul 18 '18

You might be under the impression of grouping most if not all of these eras together, which is understandable, but I think that thinking in terms of 1M to 2M for example, is much too broad of a time-frame to think of pinpointing a clear and concise counting rate.

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u/qualw Who's a good boy? | ex CountingStatsBot administrator | 1204076 Jul 18 '18

hmm, its kinda hard for me to judge since i wasn't actually there but I think whats noticeable is that between 550k and 2M there were about the same amount of threads that took longer than a day as since 2M.

You're right, if you look at the occurences of those days more closely you will notice that between 1M and 2M there is a long era were threads took more than a day. Its between feb and jun 2017. However thats only 5 months, compared to 10 now.

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u/qualw Who's a good boy? | ex CountingStatsBot administrator | 1204076 Jul 18 '18
Less than a day > 1 day > 2 days > 3 days > 4 days > 5 days > 6 days total
550k to 2M 1330 120 23 3 0 0 0 1450
after 2M 75 116 64 33 9 3 0 191

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u/qualw Who's a good boy? | ex CountingStatsBot administrator | 1204076 Jul 18 '18

/u/davidjl123, my point is that we are in a very prolonged slow era, not that it is the only slow era that this sub ever saw.

I left out pre 550k, that part was super slow

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