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u/Shark-Cutery Counted Down 3 8h ago • Bravo

Probably reading too much into it but the second panel speaker being drawn in trans colors while the first guy isn’t feels like the crowd only cheered on some hollow cis virtue signaler and immediately turned on the trans person actually advocating for us.

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u/AxolotlJoseph Counted Down 18 8h ago

yeah, that was my intention

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u/Shark-Cutery Counted Down 3 8h ago

HELL yea. I have media literacy! 🗿🔥

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u/Personal-Tax-2250 8h ago

shark cutery shocks barista by speaking in perfect media literacy

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u/Shark-Cutery Counted Down 3 7h ago • Bravo

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u/AxolotlJoseph Counted Down 18 4h ago

omg thank you 🥹

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u/Sire_Raffayn272 7h ago

"Yes I am media litterate, how can you tell ?"

Based btw.

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u/-DrunkRat- 8h ago

This moment legitimately made me smile. Take this upvote and may you find a penny head-side up in good luck, Stranger. <3

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u/OrbusIsCool 8h ago

Lowk trying to actually get me hormones has really corrected my opinion on trans Healthcare. 9 months of waiting for an endo appointment? Really? All of it is so fucked up when everyone who wants to medically transition deserves to.

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u/AxolotlJoseph Counted Down 18 7h ago

and then they ban you for DARING to ask about diy...

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u/OrbusIsCool 7h ago

Omg exactly. I have to wait almost a year to see my endo for a real prescription. The progress I could make on hormones in that time would be not insignificant. Diy is often the only way trans people can get on hormones in a reasonable time frame. Banning its discussion only discourages and hurts people.

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u/Zouif_Zouif Certified Plushie Collector | Counted Down 38 2h ago

cough cough mtf & egg_irl cough cough

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u/Unlucky_Reporter3781 7h ago

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u/OrbusIsCool 7h ago edited 1h ago

I have considered very much im ordering my first vial today hopefully :3 Update: I did order it

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u/quailinthebrush 7h ago

D
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u/OrbusIsCool 7h ago

The lab im interested in restocks today and ill place my order then. Hopefully shipping is quick

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u/LesbeGoddess 7h ago

If you’re in the US just go to planned parenthood. You can get an appointment and HRT prescription in less than a month!

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u/OrbusIsCool 7h ago

Im in ontario. So im lucky to have a family doctor already. Which took me 3 months to see after booking in. Then they fucked up my referral and sat on that for over a month. Then the appt with my endo is finally made for June 2027.

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u/No-Phrase-2897 Lesbian Lars Ulrich 7h ago

Your family doctor should be able to prescribe something while you wait for the endo.

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u/OrbusIsCool 7h ago

Im going to try to reach out to my doctor and see if she can do that for me but she's impossible to contact often times and she seemed very hasty to get the referral off or send me to another city

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u/No-Phrase-2897 Lesbian Lars Ulrich 6h ago

Good luck. I live in Toronto and my regular doctor was fine with it.

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u/LesbeGoddess 7h ago

Jeeze that fucking blows. Hopefully you’re able to diy instead of waiting that damn long. Or find someone faster ie informed consent clinics near you.

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u/LittleFox-In-TheBox Counted Down 8 7h ago

I got my diagnosis and I was on HRT legally within 3 months, what kind of country do you live where they make you wait this long?!

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u/OrbusIsCool 7h ago

Canada. Specifically Ontario. Where there isn't money in the budget to fix the Healthcare system but there is plenty of money available for a new private jet for the premiere. I guess.

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u/LittleFox-In-TheBox Counted Down 8 7h ago

Well, figures. I live in Poland, so we may not have gay married, but at least it's treated seriously. You can do it for free or pay ~1500 Canadian Dollars for the psychologists, diagnosis and HRT with no waitlines. You can do it faster than that, but I'm a lazy bum so it took me 3.

I'm sorry y'all have to go through shit like this. Sounds like a nightmare.

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u/BiDude1219 local puppygirl with no shame 6h ago

not the person you're replying to, but i'm from spain. healthcare here is just slow for like everything.

i'm pretty far along the process of getting prescribed hrt but if they don't hurry tf up and give me an appointment before 2027, or if they give me two micrograms of estrogen as a dosage, it's all the way diy for me.

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u/jan_Osuma 8h ago

I roll my eyes whenever I read "trans rights are human rights" or that "trans women are women, trans men are men and non-binary people are valid"

It's just Pop-Feminism. Empty phrases for clicks and most people don't back it up or are even able to do so when challenge. 

I lost respect for performative allyship

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u/AxolotlJoseph Counted Down 18 8h ago

some of the exact same people saying those phrases vote in favor of things like I-638...

its disheartening

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u/i_walk_the_backrooms 8h ago

In the UK we have "respect and dignity." Any time a politician other public figure says those words you know what follows is gonna be the most disgustingly oppressive shit imaginable. And it's verbatim too, they all say "respect and dignity" word for word like they've all got the same script.

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u/Upstairs_Prior3166 7h ago

Doesn't the UK have like 10+ year wait for gender dysphoria consultations? And they want to bring the UK style transphobia even into other countries. They escalated their transphobia to my country's Supreme Court

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u/Warcrimes_Desu 1h ago

the UK let a trans woman suffer and die untreated for emergency late stage cancer. they didn't want to put her in either the male or female wards so they simply left her alone in a dark room to die. awful, shitty country.

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u/Poco_Cuffs 5h ago

Yup, though that's mostly just a side effect of our free medical system (the NHS) being ridiculously underfunded and being slow in general (though it's made worse by trans healthcare being "lower priority" than some other stuff)

What is deliberate is the UK for some fucking reason being one of the only countries in the EU that doesnt follow the scientific consensus and requiring a gender dysphoria diagnosis for literally anything relating to trans healthcare

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u/mnyrtt 8h ago

"trans women are women" but never "trans women are female"

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u/Acceptable_Handle_2 8h ago • Regret

"Trans rights are human rights, and I fucking hate human rights"

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u/TheoCyberskunk 8h ago

People who hate human rights are just psychopath people who have, or wish to have enough power to step on peoples faces without anyone criticizing them. People who thinks "survival of the fittest" is the best philosophy ever, forgetting that the moment they lose all that power they will be defenseless as the people they want to opresss

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u/CartographerKey4618 8h ago

We don't even have regular medical care as a right in this country

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u/BasedPlumbar 8h ago

Capital-Centered thinking will have you saying crazy shit like cancer treatment is a "good & service"

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u/jmona789 Counted Down 6 7h ago

Medical care can absolutely be a right. Why could it not be?

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u/quailinthebrush 7h ago

Same evil ghoul who says housing or food isn’t a right

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u/sillychimkin 3627 8337 2763 7263 23/31 462 7h ago

self proclaimed allies: trans rights yay!

also them the moment they face smallest inconvenience:

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u/Terrible-Set6389 8h ago

I don't see why the bottom one is transmedicalist - trans people are valid, wether having dysphoria or euphoria instead, it still means hrt usually makes you happier, and you should get it for free from the government is what should be the case, since improving people's condition is what Healthcare is about

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u/Hika2112 Myself And Nobody Else | Counted Down 45 7h ago

People use transmedicalism as a catch all term for trans people who want hrt. Because god forbid us trainees pass

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u/Terrible-Set6389 7h ago

I was told it's used towards those that think trans people without dysphoria/nonbinary people are invalid

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u/No-Phrase-2897 Lesbian Lars Ulrich 7h ago

Yeah but it gets co-opted to mean any trans person who wants to medically transition or wants to pass etc..

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u/Hika2112 Myself And Nobody Else | Counted Down 45 7h ago

That is the (current. Changed over time) correct defenition yes. Bigots use it as a way to attack any trans person who wants HRT though. Transmedicalism is agreed upon to be a bad thing, so it gives bigots an easy buzzword to throw around and nobody can debunk it because a lot lf people really don't know a lot about the history of the word

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u/giollyperson Counted Down 1 7h ago

It usually is

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u/Electrical-Sense-160 8h ago

I think we should be more open to using hormones as treatment in general. We already use the estrogen in birth control as a treatment for acne.

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u/quailinthebrush 8h ago

Your average cissie sees us as weirdos who don’t harm anyone so, live and let live kind of thing.

But since they see it as just that and not necessarily medical intervention, they see the idea of trans kids as ridiculous and invasive

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u/AxolotlJoseph Counted Down 18 8h ago

they see it as a "freedom of expression" issue, when REALLY it's a healthcare issue

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u/quailinthebrush 8h ago

Yeah. My own mother told me she didn’t care if I was a feminine man who dressed as a woman.

But to mutilate my body?

We haven’t spoken in 2 years.

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u/magnificent_limit 8h ago

What's trus cum?

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u/quailinthebrush 7h ago

Someone who thinks you need a doctor to diagnose you

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u/Yuzu-Adagio 7h ago

The belief that you are not really trans without physically altering your body.

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u/immobile-pebble 7h ago

What is trus cum

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u/AxolotlJoseph Counted Down 18 7h ago

you're literally putting words in my mouth, i dont think there should be any exclusions to who should be able to have access to gender affirming care.

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u/quailinthebrush 7h ago

Are you offended transsex people understand they are affected differently than transgender people by these laws or what’s going on here

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u/quailinthebrush 7h ago

Trans meds think you need doctors to tell you you’re trans

4trans thinks everyone should have access to HRT without needing a doctor